Here I was all ready to paint the town red, and I’m snowed in. Here’s the result. A guide: AFC friends getting in the way?

alphaasfuck · 2010-12-27T06:50:31+00:00

The Aggressive Prick: He tries to cockblock you constantly. He wants to be the alpha but doesn’t know how. So instead he just constantly tries to make you look ridiculous or tell embarrassing stories about you to your target, and follow you over to groups before you’ve established that you are one rad guy. This is insanely frustrating. They key is to not let him ruffle your feathers. You need to show him who is boss, it is the only thing he can understand. Point out how rude he is being. I personally like, “You know, it is usually polite to <something he made an effort to not do>” Turn his negative stories into positive ones. You need to be able to think on your feet. Do NOT fight back directly by attacking his character, or attempt to defend yourself. It will be seen as weak. Redirect everything.
The Guy in A Relationship: He is out of the game. He doesn’t understand how attraction works. What he does is usually well meaning though counterproductive. Usually this means overtly trying to tell girls how awesome you are. Generally non-threatening, but going out with him and his girlfriend can be a slight hindrance if they don’t know how to socialize with anyone but each other and frequently pop into and out of conversation. Lightly jab at him for being absorbed in his girl when he hops back in. If you can’t handle this and turn it into a positive… you need some work.
The Know-It-All: They never stop talking when they get nervous. They tell stories or anecdotes or facts to a group that doesn’t want to hear, but the group may just be polite enough to let him keep talking. Sometimes calling him out on it works, but that is being a bit of an ass. My problem is not that they steal the conversation focus from you, but that they are big distractions. They can get you sucked into a conversation that only you and he are interested in having with each other. In order to fix this, decide before you are going out whether you are willing to spend time having these conversations or how much you will limit yourself in them, by time, or by how many people you are cutting out of the conversation. Sometimes it is best to give other people some background and allow them to participate.
The AMOG (Alpha Male Of Group) friend: This one requires you to be quick on your feet. As a friend, he is good to have to expand your circle. He will give you an in to meet lots of people. However, if he starts to dominate the conversation by discussing something you couldn’t possibly be involved in, change the subject gracefully or move briefly onto another set. Sometimes briefly hitting on that he is excluding you is enough. Other times, it would be rude for you to do anything other than talk to a different group of people. If possible pick the people that don’t seem to be involving themselves in the current conversation and isolate them as another set. Peace out early unless things seem to be going very well. Have somewhere more interesting to be. Perhaps invite some people along. Another option is isolating him early on and gaining his favor. Being his friend will make his friends your friends. People will trust his judge in character.
The Puppy: This one is the most complicated. He follows you around, he watches you, tries to figure out how you do what you do. He may be loyal, but he is like a dog that is always underfoot. He has no confidence and wants to understand how to mimic you. You've probably tried to get him into the material, and if you've done a proper job, he'd be a good wingman. However, he's got some block: it might be an ex-girlfriend he can’t get over, a social ineptitude, unwillingness to be a little bit of an ass, or a complete lack of understanding of what it takes to be attractive. He often unexpectedly tries to out-alpha you like the Aggressive Prick in really terrible situations, and not handled correctly, can make both of you look like dicks. Problems with this type of AFC will pop up when you least expect it, and will challenge your ability to handle unexpected situations. You need to nip this one in the bud. Talk to them directly about what you do and how you learned how to do it. Tell them what they can and cannot do when you are out. For me, this was, “Never interrupt me. Don’t attempt to steal the focus of the conversation. Do not attempt to go after girls I am going after. If you follow these rules, I will help you where I can. If you don’t, I will shut you down and I will hate doing it.” Tell them how they can help you. Give them subject to segue into that would be clearly bragging if you did it.

Edit: Thanks to Side2

The Sad Fuck: Oooh. This one is difficult. I can't believe I forgot this. You should know two things. They WANT to be sad and taken pity on, and they want you to try to pick their emotions up. You have a choice. You can spend ALOT of time aside talking some sense into them, or ignore them. Don't ignore them if you have a girl who is even a little bit concerned about him. I've seen girls go comfort them and later become their girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

I can't tell you this will work 100% of the time, but what I've done now is turn to the girl and say, "Excuse me, I need to go take care of something." very seriously. Go talk him out of it, out of sight. If he isn't listening to reason, tell him, " Look you're a good friend of mine, and I hate to see you this way, but I feel like you don't want to be helped. Please just think about what I've told you. You'll be fine." Othertimes there is nothing you can say, and you just need to tell them, it sounds like you need to have a good sit down and think about this. But don't wallow, make a decision.

Come back. The girl will ask you where you've been, and hopefully you havn't left her in the company of someone else who could pick her up. IF you have, mention it. 'I hope John didn't try to hit on you too hard while I was gone.' Imply they wouldn't have dared while you were there. I can't decide if this is the best option or not, but usually I just go, "X needed a shoulder to cry on. He'll be better soon." Sometimes, a 'no, don't go out there, he needs some time to himself right now.' needs to get added.

I should mention this is definitely Long Game material. However, it has worked fairly well with me so far, considering. Look at every situation as how best to be a leader of man and you can never go terribly wrong.

opiumden · 2010-12-28T00:52:31+00:00

I'm having a problem with a couple of buddies who aren't AFC's at all, but are now in LTRs so they're kinda out of the game. When I go out with them lately they're AMOG'ing the holy shit out of me. Usually in the form of verbal cuts and teasing. It's relentless. I feel like I'm going into battle.

Because of what I've learned about seduction, I'm starting to hold court with groups more. Their girlfriends give me a lot of attention and teasing even though I'm not directly hitting on them at all and basically ignore them. I notice when the girlfriends cut in to tease me and give me attention, that's when it triggers my buddies to start amog'ing. Like clockwork. I'm having a hard time bringing new girls into the set because of this. I guess the logical next step is to dump them as friends, but I've been friends with them way before I discovered pickup. Thoughts?

EDIT: spelling

Tigerbud · 2010-12-28T05:39:56+00:00

what female types are there

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