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[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Try it for a bit and see how it works for you. I don't really notice anything different unless I do it right before I go out or something, then it has a negative impact... Maybe just because I'm tired or lose sex drive.
I have however been cutting down porn viewing, my goal is to never view it and I have noticed nothing but improvements in seduction and life in general.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Please expound on your experience of reducing your porn consumption.
[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 14 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I tried it, it doesn't help. In fact I think fapping before I go out helps me alot, that and a shot of Jack Daniels. I call it my, Jack and Jack routine.
[–]karmaval 16 points17 points18 points 14 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Jack and Jack routine
I think we can build a sitcom just around this thing.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 14 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Or the poignant and harrowing story of a chronic masturbating alcoholic.
[–]jabies 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's called 2 and a Half Men.
[–]karmaval 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, what else are we going to witness besides him/her chronically masturbating?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sometimes he has to go to ER, perhaps one time he gets drunk and breaks both arms with hilarious poignant consequences.
[–]karmaval 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We'll call it the mental masturbator - he'll fuck with you AND YOUR MIND!
But breaking both his arms - I mean, should we not keep that for the last episode? How's he gonna chronically masturbate?
Also, he should have a pet chimp, called "Master Bator" - I guess we have just fixed the "broken arms episode" - the chimp can do the works.
[–]CharlezSheen 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Boom! WINNING!
What did I win? WHAT DID I WIN?!
[–]wubbwubb 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Race you to the patient office.
[–]Ergydion 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jack and Jack routine is probably going to be a reddit meme and I have the chance to say a few words here: hail satan... damn I really dont know what to say :(
[–]MrP3rfect 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, If you approach and fap at the same time, it will be a bit awkward. You can stop when she takes over thou.
[–]dkmark205 points 14 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I agree. Whipping it out too early is kind of a game killer.
[–]GodofPH 3 points4 points5 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fapping debate is only second to nice guys in shit that never stops causing arguments here but still keeps popping up.
Different things work for different people. So people feel more confident and driven when they have abstained, others feel more relaxed from a fap before they go out.
See which works for you.
[–]punisher2404 4 points5 points6 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I always feel like when I fap I dont care as much about seeking women as I did before it. So I too have been abstaining from touching myself. I did Have it pay off though, when I did end up getting with this girl. I came multiple buckets, instead of the usual spurt. Which is nice. She ended up taking what she couldn't finish in a 'To-Go' bag.
[–]ItsNotShane 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
deleted What is this?
[–]warpcowboy 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had surgery in my groin and erections were painful. Couldn't fap for four weeks but then waited two more weeks just to put the assertion up to the test.
Felt zero change in my overall outlook just from abstaining. I didn't get a sensation that I was ready to burst, either. What gives me that sensation is when I'm getting blue-balled on the dance floor, and that happens whether I haven't fapped for 6 weeks or 6 hours.
Just is a pointless way to torment yourself.
However, what abstaining can do is motivate you to get laid. If you make a deal with yourself that you'll depend on women to get off, then you'll probably feel a sense of urgency to make it happen. But there's no physiological benefit.
[–]sillymallard 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe the general opinion/evidence is mixed.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, it helped me, more info at /r/nofap
[–]testmypatience2 points 14 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Fapping before making a decision to hit up a girl for sex will make you generally not want to see her after. You can correlate this with your drive to approach within a few hours of approaching. Therefore we can conclude that fapping hinders your ability to approach. This only matters if it is done within a few hours of going out. I am going to say about 8 hours before shouldn't matter but any closer and you probably won't give a fuck about approaching much because you have filled the void in which she would have.
[–]Saint947 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the fucking answer that needed to be said.
No bullshit, no "peak testosterone serum levels".
You fap, you don't want lady, end of story.
EDIT: It should be said, Seddit has shown me that I have a very, very fucked up view of women, and I think it's tied intrinsically to porn / fap. I spend all the time reading the stuff on here, and when I'm out in the world and have an opportunity, I just let it slip because I just don't care that much post-fap.
I think I need therapy.
[–]Audacite 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes it does. Studies have shown abstaining can make your testosterone level jump nearly 150%.
More analysis.
[–]darkenergizerbunny 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You're assuming that testosterone levels correlate with game ability.
[–][deleted] 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[–]Audacite 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Testosterone affects confidence and also sex drive, which defininitly would affect game. In addition, excessive masturbation depletes your body's dopamine which would exacerbate social anxiety and disorders including depression.
So yeah, excessive masturbation is bad, but moderation is better for you.
[–]warpcowboy 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, Modern Savage is suspiciously pro-fapstinence. To the point where he seems to preach the gospel when he posts here about it. As if he has something to gain from the united blue balls of Seddit, not just a guy sharing an experience.
Also, the testosterone serum peak is after a week and then abruptly gets downregulated. What are you going to do, try to time the day you quit fapping to line up with an event 7 days away just to get that 150% peak before it goes away?
Finally, the studies he links to involve laboratory-induced sexual exhaustion in rats. Good luck exhausting your androgen receptor density just from some casual faps.
[–]joeggernaut 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this made the rounds on reddit a few months ago, and from what I recall, the idea is based on a single study from ~6 years ago that said nothing conclusive and had no follow up research. there were observed increases in testosterone on the 7th day, but after that testosterone levels returned to normal. the increase was also in free serum testosterone (or something like that), which can't be used by the body in the same way and so is not correlated with the usual benefits of higher general testosterone levels. I'm not a scientist, but it sounds like this thing has basically been debunked outside of the placebo effect.
[–]ge991 point 14 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
A study. One study.
Don't say studies.
[–]rmbarnes 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems to work well for me if I go 3 - 5 days without fapping. Different people get different results.
[–]MUFC_CHAMP19NS 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well not while you're approaching anyway.
[–]puaCurveBall[M] -1 points0 points1 point 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This has been covered ad-nauseum, removing this topic as I don't believe it improves seduction as a subreddit.
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