Shit Tests: From a Women's Perspective

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-06-13T01:18:58+00:00

Shit tests can be subconscious behavior, you might not be even aware of it when you're doing it. You might not be conscious of the judgments you make when you do these tests.

nowwaitjustoneminute · 2012-06-13T01:44:44+00:00

I'm new here, but I think I have a good example:

I asked a girl I was interested in out to Coffee, arranged a place and time to meet. Beforehand she texts saying she's gonna be late, and "is that okay?" Nice guy me says yes. Thirty minutes later, she texts indicating another delay. Stupid guy me says "no problem, just let me know when you're ready." We finally met up, and Coffee went great, but nothing more came after that.

This was totally a shit test, and I'm sure it was unconscious. She learned from this that I didn't value myself enough (and valued her too much) to say "No, that's not okay." The moment she said she'd be late I should have replied, "Actually, let's just cancel. I gonna go do [super awesome interesting activity] with my friends now."

throwawaysed1482 · 2012-06-13T13:07:46+00:00

Some shit tests girls have thrown at me:

'Do you think girls should wear high heels?' afc answer, she walks away, sorry i mean: alpha answer, she starts talking again.

'Do you think i'm fat?' (hot slim babe) answered 'yes, i'll get you a gym membership'

'Do you think you can handle me?' (really hot babe), i say, 'well you have really small breasts', she laughs in mock indignation.

'You are too old for me' no, i wasnt.

'You live too far away' no, i dont.

'You live in a dangerous locality' no, i dont.

'I dont speak english' yes, she did.

'You treated me like a whore' no, i didnt.

All this is aside from the usual 'does he want me enough' tests of back turns, takeaways and jealousy tests like kissing some other dude right in front of me, 'you arent worth my time' tests like 'hold this.' ',get me this item', 'buy me this' etc.

cron_nin · 2012-06-13T01:18:24+00:00

Congratulations on hanging around /r/seduction to get some insiders' info. I've read my fair share of dating books for women myself for the same purpose.
I agree with you, it does not really make much sense, but we are talking about subconscious driven behaviors here, and while they do not make sense, that's what happening (often). Don't take my word for it, next time you have a girls' night out, don't drink, and observe your girlfriends' behavior, what they say etc... when approached by guys. You'll be surprised. Does it happen each and every time? Of course not, but often enough and of course when it happens it is not overt and has various degrees.
Keep in mind that this is a behavior that women do unconsciously, and directed to guys; while we -guys- have been on the receiving end for our entire lives; we have awareness of it, you don't.

2012-06-13T01:58:34+00:00

Passing shit tests are not about having a disregard for other people and their feelings, but rather having a certain level of respect for your self. If you genuinely feel like doing nice things for people then it doesn't matter what silly "tests" people throw at you. If you do "nice things" because you really want to make the other person happy so that they'll like you, so that you can be happy then you're not giving away something good, you're asking for something "make me happy", and vice versa, if you're being an asshole because you think that's how you get happiness, then again you're doing the same thing, which is what the whole alpha/beta thing is about.

The terminology used here is often misleading imo, a "shit test" isn't a test people make up and then put out, it's just observing peoples responses to normal interaction and then forming opinions, which everyone that isn't brain dead does all the time.

dakru · 2012-06-13T13:22:58+00:00

I've heard many women say that they read talk here about them and then realized that they actually do it themselves.

seddituction · 2012-06-13T01:18:50+00:00

how would you rate yourself for attractiveness on a scale 1-10 ?

throwawaysed1482 · 2012-06-13T01:58:58+00:00

Fellow lady here. There are probably some women who do shit tests sometimes, just as there are probably some men who do them sometimes. But it's not nearly to the degree that the guys here seem to think they do. It's kind of silly.

For example, if I ask you what you do for a living, I am not trying to assess your financial value in any way. It's a normal topic of conversation and can lead to interesting talk ("You're a doctor? Tell me something interesting about the human body." "You're a garbage man? What's the weirdest thing you've seen someone throw away?") If I ask if "that works on all the girls" or "if that's your routine" I'm teasing you because whatever you said sounds prepared--I don't expect a specific result.

Many of the men here start out not very socially adept, so people--especially women--seem like a total mystery. Have you ever felt awkward about something totally normal and turned it over and over in your head for way longer than necessary? I know I have--and I think that's what's going on with a lot of the perceived "shit tests" here. When you're not socially confident, it's easy to assume that everyone has some complex agenda and you're in the middle of it, or that you're always doing the socially "wrong" thing. Women aren't nearly as complicated as men make them out to be sometimes (just as men aren't nearly as simple). A whole lot of people--male or female--feel just as awkward as you do, and they don't have some genius social chess game in their heads.

Paramind · 2012-06-13T01:21:19+00:00

Well I don't think (m)any women do these shit tests consciously, it's rather something they do unconsciously and if the guy fails, they got this in the back of their heads.

Just my theory, could be 100% wrong of course.

cron_nin · 2012-06-13T03:18:55+00:00

I know that this will be downvoted severely because it simply goes against everything that is taught here. But here it goes:

There was a comment, that was deleted in which someone did not appreciate the word "click", thinking that the word is a default term when someone is just not interested. We cannot say a person does not like you simply because you seemed "weak". While it may be true in some cases, it may not be for ALL the cases. Attraction is a strange thing. Having a strong personality does not mean that someone will be attracted to you, though it does increase chances.

There are other means of gaining attraction other than simply dressing well and being confident in who you are. These are variables that YOU control and will increase chances. Remember, it's a numbers game!

Title	Shit Tests: From a Women's Perspective
Author	cron_nin
Upvotes	12
Comments	43
Date	June 13, 2012 12:39 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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