Mark Manson says you won't have much luck going outside of your "demographic." Have you guys found this to be true?

2015-09-01T10:35:07+00:00

Obviously this is trying to tell you that there's other sides of your personality that you wish to develop. You say you are more of a serious/businessman type guy, but something is calling you towards the more gritty/dirty aspects of life. So why not explore that? Try and go talk to these girls, see if they draw out a part of your personality that you didn't even know existed.

teedubya · 2015-09-01T07:31:58+00:00

Dude. You want an educated woman with a job... You don't want to get a bimbo with no goals knocked up.

2015-09-01T10:43:12+00:00

Well I think this can be explained like this as well.

If ugly nerd geek guy approached girls, girls wont have attraction to that guy unless girls have same interest and can be attracted to other qualities of ugly nerd.

If handsome shy geek nerd did the same, no matter what girls are interested to, will be attracted to that guy because of beauty. He won't have all girls but many will be attracted to him.

Attraction is not only beauty, there are some known attractive qualities that women value: looks, fitness, confidence, social value, dominance, fashion, power, money...

Every girl value 1 attractive quality the most, women who love hot guys, women who love dominant guys etc... The more attractive qualities you gain the more you will attract. You can become hot by going to gym, and this goes on and on, every single successful guy you see, they didn't born that way, they became like that. Instead of thinking how all the time, think how, what, why, make a plan in 15 minutes and take action.

your thinking must be 20% and your action 80%.

LUClEN · 2015-09-01T02:18:12+00:00

At first I thought the title referred to ethnicity. I was going to say no.

However after reading the example I'm inclined to agree. In HS I had crushes on a few girls who were alt/goth/emo but they never really fucked with me like that. I used to only listen to rap music and wear fitteds and baggy clothes so I guess I wasn't their type

Spacedust_ · 2015-09-01T04:54:30+00:00

Maybe my problem is that I'm straight up obsessed with fat asses and slutty dresses, but the more educated girls tend to be on the skinny side and dress more conservatively.

This is not true, a lot of women who goes out clubbing tends to blend in with the crowd which is usually tight dresses with high heels and deep cleavages...

I have met a doctor, couple of teachers , therapists etc.. in upscale venues who wore pretty sexy dresses...

Every guy on the planet thinks that Jennas are hotter, you are not unique, if I remember that example correctly Mark Manson mentions that John steps up his game , dresses better gets fit and become more attractive at the end. So thats your hint right there

username_notworking · 2015-09-01T00:59:40+00:00

Umm well based on the example you gave I would think it has a lot less to do with demographics and more to do with interests and lifestyle.

If I give an example as John is a devout Mormon and Anna is a girl who likes to party hard its also pretty obvious why things would end quickly. The income and education levels are irrelevant.

Beaudism · 2015-09-01T11:50:34+00:00

Tbh I reckon it depends on what you're looking to do. If you're looking to get laid, there isn't any harm in dumbing down your vocabulary or what have you. But for someone you're interested in, as a long term partner, that should absolutely never happen.

FriedTofu-Sun · 2015-09-01T11:50:39+00:00

He also said that if you act outside of your racial stereotype you will have more sucess with people of doffrent demographic

Mi5ery · 2015-09-01T08:15:36+00:00

In my experience, I've found myself attracting girls that came from very differents worlds.

The truth is, You wanna be the brand. A really high status person will always make you wish to be like them in a way if you're insecure about yourself. he same applies with girls. Stronger frame wins. In this exemple, John just looks like a chode.

Check out Tyler's video for more on the subject.

Merica911 · 2015-09-01T16:03:01+00:00

You wait. You wait for those "fat asses" 19 year old girls turn in their late 20s and that's gonna be more than just a "fat ass" to grab.

I think about an educated girl over a slut girl, is that the educated girl is going to take care of her body when the "fat ass slut" isn't.. In a girls prime (18-25) that's all fine and dandy, but once they start hitting near their 3gs. You wait and see!

criveros · 2015-09-01T04:48:56+00:00

It's more about lifestyle than anything else.

2015-09-01T13:58:59+00:00

This is why you need different groups of people to go out with. I consider myself an intellectual thinker with a wild side as well. So I have different people I go out with and it encourages me to lean towards one of these areas more so than the other.

allfunkedout · 2015-09-01T14:38:42+00:00

me and you may be brothers... where do you live?

2015-09-01T15:35:24+00:00

To add some edge maybe try simple style tweaks like a leather jacket.

hamfraigaar · 2015-09-01T15:44:36+00:00

Why in the world would John want to hang out with 20 year old party girls anyway? Just to get a quick fuck? If you're in game to just get a quick fuck with girls you don't care about, just skip all the boring stuff and go for shot gun tactic instead.

hamfraigaar · 2015-09-01T15:48:02+00:00

I don't think you'd need tattoos or whatever to get a foot in the door with these girls. But you should definitely get into their scene. I mean, what you're describing is just pure lust. If you have nothing in common you'd be bored with them after a week anyway. So is there anything about the subculture that attracts you or is it just the people? I'm so confused. Also you're not going to get anyone by getting tattoos and dressing differently :-P you can dress however the shit you like if you actually have things in common with these girls...

Nothing_Gazes_Back · 2015-09-01T18:07:03+00:00

Yes and no. I'm a pretty eclectic person and that shows itself in the wide variety of people I date. I associate with everyone from lawyers to homeless mod punks and everyone in between.

iscream22 · 2015-09-01T19:32:35+00:00

It seems to be that way with me. I've always had luck with the cute artsy, weird/nerdy chicks. I've gone on dates and hit on other types of chicks (blonde beach bums, party girls etc) and i rarely ever have any chemistry with them and would rather be doing something else.

captainjackpua · 2015-09-01T21:33:11+00:00

I don't think you'd have to change as much as you think you'd have to in order to target these women.

You can do A LOT with some changes to your hair, a couple outfits and some accessories and still keep your overall identity intact.

That said, that will only buy you the first 10-15 seconds. After that women go entirely by how you are making them feel.

Captain Jack

aminbae · 2015-09-03T15:30:58+00:00

watch squattincassanova

get some new mates

Recycle0rdie · 2015-09-30T09:41:42+00:00

Bad bitches is the only thing that I like

ImJustSo · 2015-09-01T04:59:50+00:00

No, I've found that women find me attractive from all walks of life. Every ethnicity, culture, socio economic background, etc have found me attractive at one point or another. What I have found is that I don't end up with any other girl besides the ones I really find attractive mentally and physically. So it does tend to be the girls that my demographic aligns with and I am more successful with those girls because I'm more motivated to be with them.

Title	Mark Manson says you won't have much luck going outside of your "demographic." Have you guys found this to be true?
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Date	September 1, 2015 12:48 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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