Remember, even if you know a lot about seduction, it's not the same in relationships.

2udaylatif · 2016-09-30T18:31:47+00:00

Men look at relationships as the goal, the finish line, and women look at relationships as the beginning. Most guys in relationships are very chill and laid back. Guys think the hard part is over so it is time to sit back and bask in the accomplishment of having won over a quality girl. You're in a relationship now. The hunt is over.

Women look at relationships as step 1. Now they start to work on their master plan which is relationship escalation all the way to marriage and kids. The way you escalate in seduction to get sex is the way they escalate in relationships to get you deeper in.

The game switches in a relationship. Now she's gaming you. She's looking to qualify you. She wants to see if you are serious dating material or not. Then she wants to see if you are marriage material.

Keeping a relationship is easy. The hard part is figuring out where you want to get out once you get in. She is going to keep upping the seriousness little by little. It's easy to get lost and not know what you want.

nriopel · 2016-09-30T15:11:50+00:00

Great post. I am finishing "Models" and it's a really good book. Not only that it gives you tips and tricks about seduction, but it also gives you lots of thing to work on about yourself (confidence, posture, speech, etc.).

Calamash · 2016-09-30T17:16:33+00:00

This exact thing is happening to me. We're about to reach 3 months of dating and this monday she told me she wanted to break up because she felt she didn't have a boyfriend... And it's been going on since we first started dating.

GargantuaBlarg29 · 2016-09-30T18:57:41+00:00

seduction only lasts for so long and once you begin a relationship

Completely and utterly false. It's the ability to continually seduce during a relationship that helps keep it alive. Don't get me wrong, there is much more involved in a relationship than casual seduction...but dude...you dumped a girl for no reason, then expect her to act like it's a real relationship when you try and get back with her? You've set the precident. Don't think there's some deep theory or link to this difference between seduction and relationships...and your fuckup.

puabookworm · 2016-09-30T23:06:40+00:00

I think you've done a great job of figuring out where you need to improve, but I don't think these things are only important for relationships- If you approach seduction correctly, you shouldn't need to change anything when you get into a relationship. It's just that if you're doing things wrong, it sometimes doesn't become obvious until later in the relationship.

...I broke up with her after 3 months of dating for reasons I didn't exactly know why.

Be more self-reflective, be sure of your decisions, make sure you know why you do what you do. You need to have confidence in your own decisions. This is important for relationships, but also important for that initial seduction.

...Then I started to miss her. Then I tried to get back together with her...

Don't approach relationships from a place of scarcity or neediness. You need to have that 'abundant mindset' to be able to approach relationships in a healthy way. This is important for relationships, but also important for that initial seduction.

She had problems and issues that she didn't feel comfortable sharing...

Work on building comfort more. Girls will tell me all sorts of personal details about their life within hours of meeting me because I make them feel comfortable. This is important for relationships, but also important for that initial seduction.

So you can see the theme. Yes, these things messed up your relationship, but you should have been doing them from the start anyways. You don't need to act differently between the first meeting and the relationship stage.

orientalsniper · 2016-09-30T20:39:39+00:00

Jesus fuck, this just happened to me 2 days ago. I told her we needed a break 6 months ago, but still going out once in a while, then 2 days ago she said she found someone else. I was stuck in seduction mode and was kinda selfish.

deejay_1 · 2016-09-30T15:56:52+00:00

What are your thoughts on MAFMAWAFV? I plan on reading this book soon. I feel like it would help me out a lot. I don't really know how to have a relationship solely based on my last gf. I tend to just have fwb and chase the next girl.

TheXXL · 2016-09-30T15:57:36+00:00

I agree with you for the most part, but don't forget that you still need to seduce your girl to some degree. If not, you will also being dumped. It's necessary to find the sweet spot between seduction and being a close partner.

Anyways, I am sure that many people here see it the same way as you, thanks for sharing.

apex_313 · 2016-09-30T15:20:25+00:00

I got to this sub through the red pill subs. They're a little different. But married red pill has some good advice for long term relationships. Stay away from regular red pill for that though, they'll tell you you're an idiot, break up with her.

Remember, even if you know a lot about seduction, it's not the same in relationships.

For anyone that wants to start a relationship with a girl ...

Any questions, please ask.

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Title	Remember, even if you know a lot about seduction, it's not the same in relationships.
Author	taylortob
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Date	September 30, 2016 2:23 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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