Why every red pill guy should conquer dating apps

SenseiRunIt · 2024-09-25T11:10:17+00:00

Even for someone who does get a lot of matches, which is rare amongst the guys I know, the conversion rate of matches to lays is abysmal. A lot of people are on there just to stroke their own ego, and have no intention of meeting up in person.

Your way better off not wasting your time at all in some virtual cesspool. Pick up a hobby and meet high quality people there, weekly. I can almost guarantee it will be more fruitful than that app.

Human_Plate_5314 · 2024-09-25T15:39:15+00:00

I’ve gone on over 100 dates from dating apps, and got around 5 hookups, and two girlfriends. Trust me when I say this: it was a massive waste of time. The quality of women you find there is typically one that is damaged and is looking to find entertainment in the form of a court jester, aka you. Seriously not worth it.

Buttface87 · 2024-09-25T11:31:19+00:00

Dating apps were good 10 years ago. Now all they are good for is matching with bots and low quality women.

100% a waste of time.

rosesmellikepoopoo · 2024-09-25T10:52:20+00:00

Dating apps are a great tool to support abundance mentality and can be an easy way to organise dates if you have a busy schedule.

The problem is that you do have to get quite lucky on there.

The chance that you match someone who’s not an absolute whale is small, then you have to factor in whether they’re actually stilll using the app or not. Then how responsive they are and whether they’ll actually meet up with you or not.

Once the stars align and you actually get a decent girl out, then yeah dating apps are great. But these are few and far between, especially if you’re not living in a city.

I’ve had a lot of success on dating apps but that was mainly when I lived in a big city, and the quality of the girls was lower than girls I’ve had success with in person

Edit: something else worth mentioning is that dating apps are extremely competitive. Most dudes are on these apps. So, you’re competing against all the dudes in your area, some might be richer, bigger and more successful. Basically if you don’t look like a 8/10 at a minimum, then don’t bother. It’s just going to be a huge waste of time.

thetonybvd · 2024-09-25T19:33:46+00:00

Women on dating apps are damaged, they're crazy, has serious issues and delusional standards. Being horrible human beings and be surprised to didn't get the perfect lookalike of henry cavill.

You'll higher quality women IRL. Dating apps are made to make the average man miserable, in order to makes him pay

man_of_cave · 2024-09-25T10:50:20+00:00

Posting my best photos(good clothes , adventurous stuff) and having a body like an abercrombie model 12%bf ripped visible 6 abs, FFMI 21, ugly face but clear skin due to Accutane, manlet . Got 2 matches in a span of one month one didn't even respond to the first text and another one wanted me to chase her.. . There is some truth to what you said but as per my experience doing cold/warm approach irl seems much less painful. If dating apps doesn't give you any option then rather than suffering online suffer offline with much more to learn

PurpleBoltRevived · 2024-09-25T12:29:12+00:00

How to understand dating apps step by step

1 Use your real face and info

2 Walk on eggshells, pull every redpill trick in the book

3 Be ghosted

4 Catfish as a Chad, with a chin you can cut diamonds with, hunter eyes etc

5 See a woman eating out of your hand, even if you outright insult her, and ignore all the rules possible

6 Now try catfishing as an average looking black guy, claim you gave 3 baby mamas in your bio

7 Come to your own conclusions

vMiDNiTEv · 2024-09-25T11:44:10+00:00

you’re 100% right, i started on the apps when i was 18 and struggling until 21, used it on and off, but i kept working on myself and this year i’ve had more dates than the last 2 years before that combined.

i’ll list a few things that really helped attracting the girls and keeping the attraction (if you wanna see the pictures i use, you can dm me, i’ll also show my old self to put into perspective that you’re definitely not cooked, just have to work hard):

(attracting) you have to look like you’re the man, even if you’re not you’ll grow into that confidence. learning to fight and achieving a physical strong body help with that, physical confidence is the greatest step towards mental confidence imo.
(attracting) this one was probably the best one that i’ve learnt talking to girls, a lot of times girls will say that they don’t do certain things or don’t like certain things, but they say that to test you. its a really thin line you have to dare to cross, because ofc you don’t wanna hurt someones feelings or step over boundaries, but if you are capable of thinking, and are able to read people a little bit. you should definitely be able to navigate this.

here is an example, this is just a small one but it happens in so many interactions, you’ll notice it if you date a bit: so i smoke cigarettes and weed, lot of girls i dated don’t, so i never smoke in their presence, i stopped doing this, because i just wanna be myself completely with them. this one girl told me she doesn’t smoke, and she wouldn’t have kissed me if i smoked on the first date etc etc. then the next time i saw her, i had rolled a joint and offered her, she accepted. i taught her how to smoke, and later she told me that she found that really attractive.

a lot of you are way too concerned about the perception the girl you’re dating has of you, but you have to say fuck that and do you. girls respect that a lot, respect = attraction for girls.

(this is attracting and keeping attraction) another important thing, you have to be fun to be around, not funny necessarily just fun and create a good time, you have to be able to make the time fun, even if you only have each other. you gotta be spontaneous, i have adhd so this works in my favor, i just act on my impulses, keep them on their toes (not in a manipulative way, but in the sense that out of the blue you just come up with ideas for small activities, like singing, dancing, maybe bring up a deep topic or if you notice she tells you something vulnerable you give a good response, a well thought out response.

i have to be honest this last part of the text about being fun, this came for me because i made a lot of friends, i socialize well, i used to struggle with that, but after 5 years now you wouldn’t even notice that i used to be a nerd who played videos games for 14 hours a day if i had the time. by being outside so much, i just know all the ins and outs of a lot a cities so i can come up with anything to make the date fun.

(keeping attraction and creating more) another really important thing, this is more for if you really like a girl and trust her. be vulnerable, open up if she prompts you too, this will make you closer, a lot of people say, don’t do it because it will make her lose respect, thats BULLSHIT, if she loses respect for you because you become vulnerable, she’s not right for you anyway, in my experience, girls will really respect who you are even more when you open up, but you have to be a winner and you have to believe you are a winner too, you have to carry yourself like one. but these things come with experience.

if you can’t even score dates, i’d say just work on your self confidence, keep using the apps, don’t let it discourage you, its a process, its like getting your blue belt in jiu jitsu. you get beat up for 2 years straight, until you don’t. i didn’t score a date for 2 years after i started using tinder, and even when i got a date it took me 5 more to even lose my virginity, but after that one, it has become really easy.

this has been a long text if you read it, thanks for reading. hope this helps someone. :)

hayffel · 2024-09-25T13:36:08+00:00

In my opinion, there is nothing Red Pill about dating apps. It is another excuse to ease the burden of face to face rejection. It is like dating on crutches for the people that lack the social skills to do it in person.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2024-09-25T18:27:28+00:00

It's not that serious guys. Use OLD for what it's made for: Hookups. If a relationship happens, then you have a different set of problems to deal with. Enjoy.

Vermillion-Rx · 2024-09-25T11:45:26+00:00

After "conquering" these apps, you can leave them behind to focus on meeting girls irl or continue to use the apps as you wish

I think this part was such a distracting element of your post intro that set up the rest for a lot of reader assumptions. This part completely read as though you should succeed at apps as some form of a training wheel or milestone before IRL women.

I'm certain that isn't what you meant, that's just the first thing I saw doing the mod skim. Will read rest of post later but as a reader (and not as a mod) starting a post like that is a distraction and should consider how you want to set up a post, and what certain lines sound like to the reader.

often times your post intro is the only chance a reader gives your post.

nategood8 · 2024-09-25T13:14:57+00:00

People who are upset about dating apps are either A: NOT HAVING FUN because that’s what it’s all about or B: they are just not attractive enough

I would say I’m slightly above average. I’m only 5’7, 158 lbs and have a fairly shredded body.

I don’t consider myself a chad but dating apps have always been pretty good for me. I even got a girlfriend off tinder once a few years ago. You guys are all boo hoo when the whole point IS TO HAVE FUN. Yes we all want to get laid but what’s the point if you don’t enjoy the whole process. Have fun pictures, have a funny bio, be in good shape, it’s not that hard just put in the work and enjoy yourself and bring that positive energy not that desperate shit

Affectionate_Ask3839 · 2024-09-25T11:09:38+00:00

I see what you mean. I have kinda the same mindset, as in they are a reflector of perceived value. And it can be a good tool to check a certain progress. Starting from a success void profile and turning it into a one with at least likes. That in itself can be interesting as one has direct means to modify the body, work on it, work on photos etc.

Abrh7 · 2024-09-26T23:50:49+00:00

This is the weakest shit I have ever read in a while! Fuck dating apps get your ass up and go get what you want face to face!

Suddenfury · 2024-10-08T11:37:52+00:00

Dating apps is a dream of convenience. Following that path, the most convenient is just staying home and masturbating. That's why it's never going to work. Work on a strong social position instead.

Taipoe · 2024-09-25T17:02:14+00:00

Ehhhh. I’m a good looking guy and can pull relatively easily so I do get a ton of matches on dating apps but 95% of the time girls are there for validation and the 5% of the time that they do want to meet up are usually a nightmare to hangout with or too risky to bang

Tigerexx · 2024-09-25T14:08:56+00:00

You say you get "enough quality girls" in your life. What is a quality girl and what is enough of them to you?

djdmaze · 2024-09-25T22:36:19+00:00

I don’t think you can post shirtless photos on Tinder. Maybe that’s only for the main photo though

Training-Second195 · 2024-09-26T04:47:50+00:00

I'm laughing at the replies here you boys got no game

sabanMiles11 · 2024-10-15T14:18:13+00:00

Im torn between the two.

On one hand, my longest relationship came from OLD. Ive also met the most amount of women via apps.

On the other hand, its a crutch and time suck.

Im attractive enough to get dates, but not attractive enough to consistently go out with women on the apps that I deem as 8 or above. Does it happen? Yes. The most attractive 3 women Ive ever gone out with came from apps. But it came at the cost of wasting probably hundreds of hours and my mental sanity for it. I also pay for premium when I do it (though its not a big deal, im fairly wealthy).

Its a crutch in the sense of not developing social ability. Ie social circle, real friends, real interaction where you can actually date legitimately attractive women who arent insane. They generally arent on dating apps (They are generally on instagram though).

The data shows us that most women arent on the apps, and the ones that are likely have severe problems. Men outnumber women 5:1 on these things, and its not representative of real life. The guys Ive met who have had insanely hot wives or girlfriends did not meet them through apps. And thats the same for successful long term relationships.

oooKenshiooo · 2024-09-25T14:33:54+00:00

Dating apps are like sales.

If you suck at it, you will hate every minute.

If you know what you are doing, you will never be broke again.

As an average-looking guy, I ordered women to my house like pizza. It's all about having a repeatable system.

oooKenshiooo · 2024-09-25T14:33:18+00:00

Dating apps are like sales.

If you suck at it, you will hate every minute.

If you know what you are doing, you will never be broke again.

As an average-looking guy, I ordered women to my house like pizza. It's all about having a repeatable system.

MrAnderzon · 2024-09-25T17:26:13+00:00

I was getting 1/2 dates for every 10-20 matches

Online dating is no different from real life

It’s all about pictures

SmamelessMe · 2024-09-26T03:30:12+00:00

If you have 20 minutes per day to waste, that is 121 hours per year.

Not to mention the time it takes to do the chore of having to curate your profile. Because majority of people are crap at taking pictures of you. That's something you have to go out of your way to arrange. So unless it is something you actually enjoy doing as a hobby, which I absolutely understand and won't criticize you for, then it is an optional chore. And optional chores are absolutely, positively, ranked based on their ROI.

I can assure you that with half the effort you put into maintaining and swiping successful Tinder profile, you'll get more dates by approaching IRL for 121 hours a year.

I'd rather spend those 20 minutes on toilet cleaning my email inbox, or reaching out to actual humans on actual social media, so that I can get those out of the way and have more time to go meet real people.

Just to be perfectly clear here, I'm not telling you to feel bad, because you're having fun sub-optimally. If you enjoy it, keep doing it! This is strictly addressing suggestion that this is something everyone should do and conquer.

Why every red pill guy should conquer dating apps

Dating apps are a waste of time

Dating apps don't get you good quality girls

I get enough quality girls irl so I don't need dating apps

Why you should conquer dating apps

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Title	Why every red pill guy should conquer dating apps
Author	Affectionate_Ask3839
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Date	September 25, 2024 10:35 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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