Don't Believe a word.

rp-oldgame · 2014-05-21T19:40:57+00:00

About three years ago I shared an observation I'd made with my cousin.

I said, "You know what Tony? I've noticed that no matter what age a woman is, or at least between the ages of 25 and 40, every single one of them will tell you they've had sex with 5 to 7 guys. They don't want to say a number so low that you'll call them on lying, but they also don't want to say a number high enough that you'll think badly of them."

He said, "Holy shit. You're right. Every girl I've been with over the last few years has said that they'd been with like 5 to 7 guys before me."

A couple of weeks later he was at a party, and brought that shit up. One of the girls there said, "Well your cousin's wrong. I've actually only had sex with 7 guys".

He said, "What?? You're full of shit. I can name 7 guys you've fucked THIS YEAR".

"Who?" she demanded.

He rattled off in rapid fire succession, "Bobby, Joey, Kevin, Ralphie, Stevie, Ronnie, Adam" and she started screeching at him "Shut up shut up shut up!!!" and ran off in tears.

The hamster is fucking crazy.

HolographicWhaleTail · 2014-05-21T17:53:45+00:00

In high school, I asked a girl (not a girlfriend or potential gf, just a girl) how many guys she'd had sex with.

A simple number would be fine, but she went on and on about how her number isn't that high because, apparently, if you only have sex with a person once, they don't count.

This conversation introduced me to the retarded rationalizations women use to keep from looking bad.

Stayinghereforreal · 2014-05-21T17:01:19+00:00

Lesson is to never ask, instead let them bring it up. When they do, be positive about the whole prior history thing. Never give them any indication you seek a low number.

Women will disclose so much more if you smile, nod, and crinkle your eyes up while saying nonsense like, "Man, you are one sexy babe; the men just cannot resist you!"

Her number is over 15, for sure.

Sturmgeist781 · 2014-05-21T21:54:45+00:00

Trickle truth OP. Expect worse things to be said futher down the line.

LibertarianLibertine · 2014-05-21T18:58:53+00:00

Of course they lie. Personally, at least for the moment, I've fully given up on LTR's.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-05-21T19:02:44+00:00

Then multiply by 3.

willtopower2014 · 2014-05-22T00:15:21+00:00

Also remember that even after you extract the "real" number of guys she's fucked you need to tack on even more guys, ie the ones that she doesn't count. The situations her hamster doesn't allow her to count: guys she's fucked while on coke, while drunk, while on E, while on vacation, etc. Her hamster rationalizes that these never happened. They're excuses. Girls do not count these.

KyfhoMyoba · 2014-05-21T18:05:03+00:00

Decades ago, when I was married, my ex told me her count was, IIRC, 4 (or 5) before me. After 4 years of 'marriage' we split, and within 4 months she more than doubled her alleged count, that she admitted to and I knew of. When I left the city 3 years later, her admitted count would've been around 15. No way was it 4 when we met.

Oh, and she was totally pissed and all butthurt that mine was almost 30 when we got engaged. Almost broke it off with me. (Wish she would have, now.)

wall-of-meth · 2014-05-21T16:48:51+00:00

Rule of thumb:

Multiply the number a woman says by 3. Divide the number a man says by 3.

Anyway:

You don't need to ask her about it. Reputation and people who know her will give you a real impression. Also her behvaiour when she is out with friends or when you're at parties tells a lot about the real number of partners.

You don't need to know hers, she doesn't need to know yours. When she acts slutty, downgrad her.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-05-22T00:03:29+00:00

This is a lie EVERY woman will tell you. Since EVERY woman will tell you this lie IMHO it is NOT a down gradable offense unless the number is so high you just can't take it. 7 or even 10 is not too high for me unless you were holding out for a virgin.

It might also be down gradable if you have finally decided to turn gay and start sucking dick. Beyond that- would you kill your puppy for pissing on the floor? Would you shoot your dog for barking at the mail man? Women are what they are. Get over it.

MachiavellianRed · 2014-05-21T22:59:04+00:00

See despite all their protests that slut shaming is bad and blah blah, they all know deep down that slutting it up is reducing their value and riding the cock carousel is only fucking up their chances with a man of value for a more permanent thing down the line, which is of course why they lie, if you have to go all Niccolo Machiavelli on their asses and convince them you love sluts and wouldn't want a woman who doesn't know what she's doing in bed due to inexperience and maintain the pretense for awhile to find out the truth. Truth hurts, you might not wanna hear it, but if you're thinking of a bitch as "a unicorn" or "wife material" or something like that you're better off knowing than not knowing.

FortunateBum · 2014-05-22T06:02:15+00:00

Here's my formula for figuring a woman's partners.

If you could bang a woman every weekend, you would, right? So let's assume women are the same. Difference is, there's nothing holding them back.

Starting age 16 (I'm being generous), she has fucked someone every weekend before she met you. How many of those years did she not have a boyfriend? Most women have a guy or three who they go to when they don't have boyfriends. I think a safe estimate is at least a new guy every three months. That's at least four guys a year. This is not counting random one night stands.

Let's take a 21-year-old who's never had a boyfriend.

21 - 16 = 5

5 x 3 = 15

Add a few random lays, she's up to 20 maybe.

This is simply how it is for women. I recommend you simply accept it. Don't discuss it. don't think about it.

-Tyler_Durden- · 2014-05-22T00:21:32+00:00

What did you expect, EVERY woman does that. They always have a couple that didn't count for various reasons. And don't even ask them about their BJ #. Always assume that they have around 30, no matter what they tell you.

-Tyler_Durden- · 2014-05-22T00:23:35+00:00

I hate when they tell you 4 or 5. If they answer "x or x+1" they are lying; they always know the exact number. Most of them have all the names written down somewhere.

2014-05-22T03:47:04+00:00

bitches lie all the time. why do you think we call em bitches?

mbillion · 2014-05-22T04:50:00+00:00

I mean at this stage I think you need to just get rid of her and move on. Its not that she has had sex with seven people - because really that is not much, the problem is that she flat out lied to your face. Never tolerate that disrespect

2014-05-22T08:22:08+00:00

I live the same thing I'm thinking to quit her.

NoFatChicks88 · 2014-05-22T15:36:06+00:00

Unicorns don't exist. I know a very religious/spiritual girl that considers herself asexual and sex as a gross act, but she's still had sex with multiple partners. she's even done anal. she's also had a one night stand with someone twice her age (which she says was a huge mistake and only did it because she was curious again).

She was basically the most innocent one I've met thus far in life but still no unicorn. I've given up on finding a proper girl I can love for the rest of my life. I want to be independent and use women for what they are: playthings.

RebootedMale · 2014-05-21T22:43:19+00:00

Seven dicks by college = 70 by the time she decides to 'settle down'.

Dillett7799 · 2014-05-22T03:44:59+00:00

Is it strange that the more I accept RPTheroy the less I give a shit about trying to get laid and just enjoy being out? Finding to love yourself just tends to bring the pussy >.<

cooltrip · 2014-05-21T21:50:14+00:00

"How did you guys handle this. What are some tips to cope with this?"

Holy fuck, it has such an easy solution:

It's not you, it's her the one to cope with this and the one to solve the problem.

Don't approach her, don't take the first step, don't take any effort to get the relationship between yourselves started... Let her and make her do it all for you, and make her strive for you and for the relationship more than she ever did for any other former lover before, so you are THE ONE she has striven the most for.

This is the only logical way she can prove you you are THE BEST ONE to her.

She doesn't want to do all that for you? Then you are NOT THE BEST ONE to her, so she's not really interested in you, so she's not worth it anyway, and you are better without her (since you will never be "with her" anyway, even if you start the relationship).

After all, why on Earth would you want to have a love relationship with a woman, knowing that you are not the best possible man to her??? (self-improvement^TM) It's a time waste for her, and it is for you too.

Only an Alpha is superior, worthy, abundance-mentality and optionful enough to apply this simple solution.

Glenbert · 2014-05-22T03:42:41+00:00

This is pre-FUCKING-cisely why I have so little faith in the "science" around this stuff. I don't care how rigorous the methodology is that they apply to is, when the underlying data is a series of lies, the conclusions are worthless... less than worthless, even.

Women. lie. about. this.

If your sexual strategy depends on the unicorn hunting algorithm at the expense of game, you're in for a world of hurt. Your 2 dick snowflake is lying to you.

All that those studies on this topic have proven is that women some women have high partner counts and lie to survey takers and their boyfriends about it. Good luck figuring out who they are.

Learn game.

creatorman · 2014-05-21T20:03:25+00:00

There are no unicorns. It's a fantasy. Just like the idea of your "one true love." It's all fucking bullshit. Do you really want a girl that hasn't slept with any dudes. A virgin? If so, you haven't gotten over your ego and your piss fantasy to be a knight in shining armor with his flaccid princess.

You watch hardcore pornography. You jerk off to sluts. You want sluts. You want a girl who will fuck your brains out, squirt, and gobble your dick. Fuck that pussy anti-sex bullshit. You love sex. You want sex. Girls want sex too. The more you stifle yourself worrying about her partner count the less comfortable she will be. She will LIE to you. She will see you as a provider/chode. She will NOT FUCK YOU LIKE SHE FUCKS OTHER GUYS. She will withhold sex from you because you're giving your power away.

You're not an alpha because you judge girls for the number of people they've slept with. You're a chode no girl wants to hang out with or fuck or be fucked by. She doesn't trust you. She doesn't feel like her TRUE self around you. SHE has the power in the relationship. You are trapping yourself into Beta-Bucks territory in her reality.

sun-moon-stars · 2014-05-22T18:08:18+00:00

Now, why exactly is it bad for a woman to have had many partners? I'm not being sarcastic; I just really would like to know your reasoning. I can't recall a man ever asking me how many lovers I've had (it would seem like a weird, inappropriate question IMHO). Is it equally bad for a man to have had many partners? Just curious.

I agree that the gf was wrong for lying, but I think she'd have been right to simply say "that's not really any of your business."

asd1100 · 2014-05-23T09:10:38+00:00

The truth is irrelevant the only thing that matters is what she believes is true. The reality in which she lives has little to do with the objective world.

Also, if you stop thinking women are special innocent little snowflakes you don't get blind sighted. Like in most scenarios, beta-bitch relationships, she only fueled your delusion(and unless you have severe self esteem issues you would do the same thing), it is your fault in the first place for entertaining those delusions. Yes, society and your upbringing propagate those myths, but you hoarded them around yourself in a fairy tale type of romantic bubble pretending external reality is not applicable to you and somehow you are the exceptional quirky little beta that deserves, finds and enjoys a everlasting perfect relationship with no effort, pain or struggle on your part whatsoever.

sagginpus · 2014-05-21T20:26:39+00:00

I hate having this conversation. Partly because I could never count the total number on my end, so even if I wanted to answer truthfully it would have to be a guess. But even then, what does sharing that information accomplish? She will never, NEVER tell you the truth. She'll lowball a number out there and then you have to decide, do you tell her your number is higher or lower? Whatever you say, if you frame it the wrong way, she'll have shit test ammunition to use against you. I never ask a woman's history, I just assume it is "a lot of partners" and move on. If she asks me, I say something ridiculous like "believe it or not I was a virgin before I met you" and then change the subject. What does it matter anyway?

Teeklin · 2014-05-22T14:38:25+00:00

Handle what? Cope with what? Who gives a shit how many guys she's been with?

symko · 2014-05-22T10:17:18+00:00

It didn't work cause miss right won't come till I become Mr. Right

isthatyourdaughter · 2014-05-21T23:25:23+00:00

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Gold_Leaf_Initiative · 2014-05-22T04:36:31+00:00

I don't handle that shit. I commit myself to one girl till she leaves me. :)

Gold_Leaf_Initiative · 2014-05-21T21:48:38+00:00

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Title	Don't Believe a word.
Author	berexberex1
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Date	May 21, 2014 4:33 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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