Can yall list some specific problems which men face in Western (or Leftist) countries? I want some examples to use in a debate against ppl who say men have it easier than women in Europe. Providing some sources as well would be especially great

iainmf · 2025-12-25T20:10:53+00:00

Have a look at the mensrights wiki

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/wiki/index/

GarlicFalse3779 · 2025-12-25T15:03:38+00:00

We no longer have the presumption of innocence, and a man has to prove his innocence; there's now an assumption that a man is guilty, especially in disputes between men and women.

_WutzInAName_ · 2025-12-25T16:03:06+00:00

Men don’t have reproductive rights, and have to pay for kids they don’t want even when they were victims of paternity fraud.
Men get less help from social programs (fewer scholarships, charities, healthcare programs, etc devoted to men)
Most military conscription/drafts affect men only.
Men are more likely than women to be charged, arrested, convicted, and punished for the same crimes that women commit. Some of the exact same behaviors from men and women (rape, drunk sex) are considered crimes only if a man does it.
Men get stuck doing the most dangerous jobs, make up most job fatalities, and are more likely to turn to substance abuse because of the stress.

TextDependent6779 · 2025-12-25T17:12:28+00:00

Copied from an old comment of mine:

Hermesmann v. Seyer. seriously cannot over-state this case.
bodily autonomy (genital mutilation)
draft
duluth model
homeless rates
suicide rates
'the underlooked male victim' - particularly in terms of rape
false accusations
paternal fraud
reproductive rights/abolish safe haven laws
more contraceptive options
more positive male role models for young boys
the underappreciated role of fathers
to stop viewing all men as rapists and pedophiles
'teach men not to rape' can go to hell.
victim blaming men while simultaneously decrying victim blaming of women.
title IX
empathy gap
fair treatment from judges
to stop twisting statistics in a didadvantageous way towards men (e.g., rape is defined as forcefully penetrated, which makes men rapists and women victims, usually).
change the definition of rape to a gender-neutral one

There are many more. More written in law, more socially, e.t.c.

Bananajuice1729 · 2025-12-25T16:26:31+00:00

There is a general disregard for men's mental health worldwide in comparison to women's

Intelligent_nosch00l · 2025-12-25T15:07:02+00:00

Depends on the country you live in: 1. retirement age (e.g. Poland) 2. education 3. The army (only men can be punished to be in the army, e.g. Finland) 4. healthcare (e.g. in Poland women get free for testing if they have breast cancer, men haven't got for the equivalent of breast cancer). 5. Free programming course for women (in Poland of course)

IceCorrect · 2025-12-25T15:22:56+00:00

You cant bring prove that something doesnt exist - male privialge. Its female job to prove that men have privilage.

In EU there are many EU programs that give women extra points for being a women

CeleryMan20 · 2025-12-25T20:12:47+00:00

Many Anglophone countries (England, Australia) have a Minister for Women (i.e. a parliamentary representative and an administrative portfolio / bureaucratic department, the titles and structures may vary), but no equivalent Minister for Men. How does that situation compare in continental European countries and the European Union admin?

Governments may have functions for Anti-Discrimination which are biased toward ethnic minorities and women, and against men and the majority culture. They downplay or ignore cases of reverse discrimination, and promote affirmative-action programmes. (I don’t want this to derail into just focusing on affirmative action, that’s worthy of a whole separate post.)

The United Nations. Ugh.

Now, yes, I understand that most governments still have fewer elected female members than male. The assumption that male politicians will only do good for men and bad for women is false. Having a Minister for Finance or Health or Communications who happens to be one gender or another is not the same as having a dedicated department that looks for blind spots and advocates for policy reform.

Typical_Grocery4244 · 2025-12-25T16:07:54+00:00

men don't have 3 human rights that women have.

Bodily integrity/autonomy - FGM is illegal in 160 countries and widely condemned, MGM is legal in all countries, advertised and widely practised.

Reproductive rights - a man cannot stop a woman from using his sperm to impregnate herself. He has no legal rights to stop her, and no legal rights to refuse paternity against his will, even if he was raped, statutorily raped, or he is/was a boy. He is legally obligated to pay for the resulting child for 18 years.

Parental rights - a man has automatic parental rights, they rest solely on the word of the mother, which is taken to be the truth in all cases unless he can prove otherwise. He has a limited period of time to contest (18months), however the court has the legal right to force paternity on the man (even if he never met the women and is not biologically the father). The man has no rights.

Bonus - some countries force conscription for men only, forcing them to die for their country. Women are usually not forced to do the same.

Copied from other comment, https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/cvYWpe0nYh (in the child comments.)

RevelationSr · 2025-12-25T16:50:37+00:00

https://x.com/theepicmap/status/1835979400472399911?s=20

Cable installer- 95% men
Road builders- 96% men
Construction- 94% men
Garbagemen- 95% men
Iron workers- 94% men
Coal miners- 96% men
Electricians- 96% men
Firefighters- 88% men
Plumbers- 99% men
Combat- 84% men

Emmy-Ebel7851 · 2025-12-25T20:09:13+00:00

A Classic, the army. Certain countries might accept and sometimes ‘force’ women into the program, but when things get heated…they’ll NEVER even think about putting them in the front lines.
Forget about society and its prejudices or stereotypes, let’s speak about laws. LEGALLY, the judicial systems that even consider men and boys as possible victims of sexual violence, domestic violence, or other types of violence can be counted on one hand and you’ll still have fingers to spare.

In fact, the same thing can be said about systems that call ‘rape’ by its name, which is supposed to be ‘un-consensual sexual activities’. Yet, for some reason most decide to label it as ‘the act of being forcibly penetrated.’ Which would, ironically, exclude women who have been victimized by other women.

Similar to the previous point. Contrary to the thousands of female exclusive help centers around the globe, finding a male exclusive help center might be harder than finding water in a desert.
Average and below average looking men might be living under an actual dystopia. The case of Anjela Borisova Urumova, the woman who falsely accused a random man in a parking lot solely because of his unattractive appearance. Her exact explanation was “he looked creepy.” Such an incident, with the alarming studies proving how women find the average male utterly repulsive…SHOULD be taken seriously.

And those are just the issues that I can name at the top of my head and as a woman.

brainwave27 · 2025-12-26T04:30:58+00:00

Men commit suicide at 4 times the rate of women. Men are 8 times more likely to physically assaulted and or murdered than women. 85% of prison inmates are men. Just as many men are sexually assaulted as women but no one cares because these are prison rapes and the victims are men our society thinks its funny.

Men are way over represented in dangerous jobs like logging, off shore oil rigs, farm labor, working on fishing boats. Anything dirty, dangerous and just plain hard work is done by men.

Women get 1/2 the prison sentence for the same crimes as men.

Women are awarded child custody 90% of the time. 90% of child support is paid by men to women.

2/3 of university degrees are awarded to women and still men are discriminated against in universities and corporate America thru DEI. 85% of teachers are women. Girls in k-12 are encouraged and supported. Boys are told to sit down and shut up or they are labeled as ADHD and put on adoral. Go to any store thats sells birthday cards and see the Girls Rule, Boys Drool girl power cards. No equivalent exists for boys.

All male spaces have been opened to women. The boy scouts, military academies, sports, the military, country clubs, professional clubs. Men are not allowed to have any spaces to themselves while corporations and government agencies pay for women's only groups, DEI for women, classes for women only, scholarships for women only.

80% of divorces are initiated by women, 90% if the women went to university. In divorce women win cash and prizes and a legal slave who has to pay her child support or go to jail. In divorce men get a crushing debt burden and alienated from their children. Even if the reason for the divorce is that the woman was cheating, hiding money from the man or any other dishonest behavior the woman wins the man loses in divorce court.

Every TV commercial shows a strong confident intelligent women talking down to a stupid, goofy, weak man. The man cant figure out the simplest thing and has to be shown what to do by a woman.

Men get drafted and sent to war to be killed. Women don't. 90% of homeless people are men.

Mister_3177 · 2025-12-25T17:53:16+00:00

i thought the very implication of the draft existing fulfills what youre looking for

WilliamRobutt · 2025-12-25T21:28:56+00:00

Literally any and all metrics that are based in fact and actual law and not surveyed feelings.

E.g. Women feel unsafe but men are assaulted more.

-Suicide

-Prison sentencing

-Assistance programs

-False accusations

-Education

-Hiring preferences

However, be prepared. Their feelings won't care about your facts.

vessel94 · 2025-12-25T21:47:06+00:00

Men are essentially castrated psychologically by simply participating in this society. Before laws, men did not have to have “game”. They could simply grab a woman that they wanted and have her. That was nature. Might = right. Now days, women have the power to gate keep and dictate who gets to have it and who doesn’t. By following the “rules” men are essentially castrated and the effects that this has is enormous, right off the bat. Women benefit by being a part of this society, men sacrifice and lose power by being a part of it.

Another advantage that women have over men is the tendency to be looked after by society. Women watch out for other women, and men have a protective instinct towards women oftentimes. The reasons for this are mixed. But men in society do not have this same level of comfort/safety and this does have effects on the psych and it really sets the tone for everything else. This is why more men are homeless, doing worse in school, and suicide rates are higher.

This entire society is a social construct that benefits women. We are not living as natural creatures the way nature intended and it’s causing problems, more so for men who literally have to disown their very primitive nature while women have endless options and freedom of choice.

mejakola · 2025-12-26T18:45:13+00:00

You need to read the story of Norah Vincent.

Puzzleheaded_Cap_746 · 2025-12-26T00:36:47+00:00

there are loads of unique challenges men face which you can argue (mental health stigma, educational gap, men dv victims stigma, etc) but don't frame it like it's harder then being a woman or that it's women's fault

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