Should I stop going out with my friend?

Rasalom72 · 2016-01-14T14:35:22+00:00

If you can't compete with a guy with ZERO game, you still have alot of work to do, or your just not attractive enough.

If he's a bitch, why are you friends with him? What does he bring to the table? Friendship is about mutual respect and enjoying each others company. It doesn't sound like you respect him much... so why hang out with him?

NightwingTRP · 2016-01-14T14:39:29+00:00

pretty much maxed my SMV.

I don't believe you've maxed your SMV if you've never been approached by a woman. Plus the way you write this, your inner game is clearly suffering. Tell me what you've been doing to address your inner game? This in turn could be affecting your body language and putting women off.

1NV0K3R · 2016-01-14T14:49:14+00:00

I don't believe you.

no game

So he's awkward as fuck? He clearly can at least hold a conversation, which means he has SOME game, and that tiny amount coupled with his superior genetics is better than yours.

Meaning stop trying to one-up him and learn to use his attributes to benefit yours. For every 5 girls that want his D I can promise you that 1 would rather want yours.

abdada · 2016-01-14T17:11:52+00:00

If all my friends didn't challenge me hardcore in some way, they wouldn't be my friends.

I'm not into club game at all -- not a drinker, don't touch women who drink. So I can't help you there.

That being said, all of my friends but 2 dudes are much more attractive than me. Some of them are WAY more attractive than me.

Never hurt me in social situations, because my confidence is 5000% better than even the hottest dude I spend time with.

I also have friends with 5000% more money than me, or 5000% better clothes, or 5000% nicer house or condo.

They all challenge me in some way and I am a better man for it.

I'd say hang out with him more, and just start ignoring chicks who get googly eyed over him. You ignoring them might get more N- or F- closes than he does.

blackedoutfast · 2016-01-14T21:13:09+00:00

If you really did have tight game and high smv you would be using him as bait.

hello2731 · 2016-01-15T11:01:40+00:00

It's not rocket science, he's fucking hot. When you're hot, nothing else matters that much. Hot people don't need to approach. They don't need to dress well or have an amazing personality. That's for everyone else. You're a pathetic twerp for considering not being friends with him.

djthiago1 · 2016-01-15T15:28:27+00:00

This is pretty basic. If he's stealing all the girls, don't go with him to places where there will be lots of girls. This is like shooting yourself on the foot. Play smart.

spirit_of_mattvity · 2016-01-15T18:25:29+00:00

He's 6'2'', he's taller than 90% of other men, and he has low body fat. What do you want? That's all you need to know

You're 5'09''. So is my partner at work....only he's really 5'07'' and just full of shit. So you're 5'07''

I mean.....what do you want? This is how it works.

The best thing you can do at this point is aim for 6-8% body fat if you're not there already.

thenemaxofredpill · 2016-01-14T16:41:49+00:00

It seems like it bothers you and you feel the need to compete. I have been in that situation before. I stopped hanging out with my old friend. It felt like an auto cock block for me because he was chiselled from a Greek god. And I'm a 7 at best.

Best to just stop hanging with him and do your own thing. It's kinda like how a kinda hot girl will hang with a kinda fat girl to make herself look better. Well, guess what? You are the kinda fat girl in this situation.

medik13 · 2016-01-14T14:40:02+00:00

i run the same game as your friend. when guys get frustrated and ask me how i do it, i just grin and tell them "genetic superiority"

This is far from the truth though, it's just all about attitude. guys always seem to compete for girls attention where as i sit back and don't give a fuck. girls instantly become interested because i'm not paying them attention and it drives them bat shit crazy.

in short your probably just trying to hard.

recursoinominado · 2016-01-14T15:26:19+00:00

I have a "friend" that is like your friend but WITH game. I have a better face and body (although he is way taller), but my game sucks a lot in comparison. I had hot women that approached me going for him the second they meet each other. Yes, it's way harder, but you can train a lot. He also tries to amog me a LOT(maybe see some kind of threat in me) and I view it like training, I ignore him sometimes(it's powerful), other times I insult him, don't follow him, and things like that. I am getting better and better at dealing with amogs.

vox_veritas · 2016-01-14T17:08:40+00:00

Good looking people are everywhere. Deal with it, and improve yourself in areas you are lacking.

Or, perhaps you can just resign yourself to hanging out exclusively with ugly people, so that you can feel better about yourself. Big fish in a small pond, and all that.

TitsAndWhiskey · 2016-01-14T17:50:05+00:00

I have a friend who's similar in SMV/looks to your friend here, but he has game. Somehow I still manage to have girls interested in me when we're out together.

Stop obsessing over your buddy.

dabears3390 · 2016-01-14T18:10:50+00:00

First off, if he's really your homie and not trying to steal girls from you, you should be happy for him and happy that you actually have a friend that can draw bitches into your group. Envy is a dangerous sin, and one that doesn't seem deserved towards your friend from the details provided. One of my best friends is a complete goober, and while I'll never drop him because of it, it would be so much easier if he was more like your friend. From the comments on this thread, it's obvious that you're exaggerating quite a bit here on your friend's flaws. I'm a 5'9 decent looking guy like yourself (definitely no abercrombie model) and I can beat out almost all of my friends for girls just by being the alpha of the group. I always am making sure that I'm the life of the conversation/party and if I'm on point, the whole group is usually dying of laughter because of my shock value style humor. I'll believe you that your SMV is probably up to par, at 19 there isn't too much you can do after the basics since you're probably a poor college kid. So, I think it's all in your head man. You're already psyching yourself out, and it's probably leaking out into your game. Take a step back and relax. Also, you're 19. Your game is probably pretty horrendous still because you're an idiot (don't take offense, I mean this in that all 19 year olds are idiots). This is going to sound lame, but just go out there, have fun, and keep putting yourself out there. Results will come in time as you gain experience. And quit being jealous of your friend if he's not being a dick about it, that's what girls fucking do and it's hella gay (yes, hella is a gay word, but a gay word is worthy of how you sound right now).

DogInTheBath · 2016-01-14T18:12:24+00:00

Just wondering how old are you?

rabbitriven · 2016-01-14T19:12:57+00:00

Just wondering if you say his physique is not impressive, and you've been lifting for 3 years. Why exactly does it seem like you have no attractive features? Sure face is genetics, but 3 years of listing must have resulted in an impressive physique?

I know a couple of guys, face not all that much but big arms and they seem to have little issue with garnering attention.

marty2k · 2016-01-14T20:13:01+00:00

No, no no no. What you have here is a perfect barometer for your game. This is a blessing in disguise. Here you have this guy with zero game, but a winner in every other area. This is actually rare, these guys tend to have great confidence with women because they're constantly in a positive feedback loop from day one.

What this means for you is that you have a perfect way to judge how good your game is. He's your control group. As you get better, you'll be able to keep the other girls attraction and interest. He'll always generate the same level of attraction, but you will constantly be rising until girls practically ignore him. There will always be a more genetically gifted man in the room, learn to play against it. You get good at basketball by shooting hoops in you're driveway, you get great by playing against a guy who's better than you.

Yeah, you'll get laid less, but stop being outcome dependent, enjoy the process and learn from it.

bonerfleximus · 2016-01-14T20:23:43+00:00

Use his looks. Girls will come to talk to him and end up more attracted to you after opening. No brainer

KnG_Kong · 2016-01-14T23:05:59+00:00

Fuck it. Rate yourself and tell him it's orgy time. Find a large group both project confidence and no fucks given, take them all home.

lookbehindyou7 · 2016-01-15T11:40:11+00:00

Besides the girl situation do you enjoy going out with him? Is he a good friend. If the answer is yes and you want to then keep going out with him, if you don't then don't. A bunch of people on the internet aren't going to be a better judge here. That being said I understand your frustration, but just try to be happy for him and maybe try to learn from him if you can. He invited you to a house party you wouldn't even be going to if it wasn't for him, that sounds like a good friend to me. I'm horrible with women but despite that some possible suggestions are, if you are getting your approach tips from the red pill or similar places for the most part you aren't going to get the women you are hoping for.

I think this is much harder said than done, I can't pull it off, but if you can just try to relax and enjoy yourself people might be drawn to that because you are really having fun and not putting yourself out there constantly. In other words, if you can, try going into a situation where you aren't looking to get laid a few times, don't have expectations. You're 19, you are going to have a lot of opportunities to get laid you don't need to fuck every time you go out.

Fireskink · 2016-01-15T20:52:12+00:00

Maybe it's because you're acting like a misogynistic asshole

htbf · 2016-01-14T14:40:17+00:00

You haven't maxed your SMV at all.

the_Zambony · 2016-01-14T14:39:17+00:00

If you are doing all the work, but he is gaining all the benefit, then yeah stop going out together.

feels like I'm already at a disadvantage by him just being there.

Drop the loser mentality. He can;t fuck all the girls at the party and if he is on his own, then lack of game will be his disadvantage.

MrFuckupKing · 2016-01-14T22:36:08+00:00

Girls love bling and he is a form of bling.

Because of procreation we are wired to be attracted to the superficial. They are doing the same thing men do and largely for the same reasons.

I have a buddy that considers himself an expert in the use of vibrators on women. This guy digs through my shop looking for ways to make new types of sex toys.

Throw out a vacuum in his vicinity and he will eye it for its possibilities.

His one rule is to never use a vibrator on a woman that is larger than the equipment between his legs.

Hanging out with your friend is like using a vibrator on a woman that is larger than what is between your legs.

They will prefer the vibrator over you unless they have a strong reason not to. Lose the friend as a wingman or stop giving a fuck and play your own game.

Personally I think the competition is good for you because it represents the real world.

Otherwise you are at risk for wanting the world to be what it is not.

When everything is against you and you still win that is when winning is at its sweetest.

mindbreeder · 2016-01-14T22:50:00+00:00

two things:

Firstly, It sounds like you're relatively young (19-23) post 25 his advantages will count for less. I have a friend who could not get laid at all in uni or highschool now hes got a bad ass job a good/decent physique, and is gregarious and interesting. He slays now and not just with golddiggers either or post 25 year old women. Non golddiggers and younger women can almost smell the accomplishments on him now and he does very, very, well despite having subpar height (5'9) and a not classically good looking face. So keep working on yourself and dont get discouraged cuz at this pace your best years are ahead of you and his a soon to be behind him.

Secondly, stop competing with him its fucking you over.

The most reductive thing i used to do is enter a bar or club or party and eye every guy to see where i fell in the overall attractiveness of the scene. This was brutal, i would give them more credit than they deserved and give myself less not to mention the only service it provided was to whittle away at myself confidence. I learnt to stop doing this and its helped a lot

proteinandbeer · 2016-01-14T17:51:11+00:00

You're 9 feet? No wonder the girls ignore you

Title	Should I stop going out with my friend?
Author	hello2731
Upvotes	6
Comments	61
Date	January 14, 2016 2:21 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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