A perfect example for why men desperately need the right to disclaim all paternity obligations- Grad school dreams dashed because of a manipulative person

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-01-17T22:55:43+00:00

That desperation, the "oh shit I don't want to/can't be a dad right now, I don't have the money, I need to work on my education or career, shit this can't be happening, I'm screwed I have no options" that is considered a human rights violation if forced legally on to women who choose to have sex.

When done to men it is comical, or something they should be ashamed of expressing and should just "man up and deal with your obligations".

IsADragon · 2013-01-17T22:06:05+00:00

I wonder if the reaction would have been any different if he had used protection and it failed. Everyone is putting that out as his downfall, that he shouldn't have trusted anyone with his responsibility, birth control, regardless of whether or not the person lied about it.

vacantstare · 2013-01-18T08:33:44+00:00

What really strikes me in the thread is the belittling and blaming for not using a condom. What if its true she told him she was on birth control and sabotaged it? Not not saying she did this but if she did not use the control properly or deliberately sabotaged it the consensus still seems to be it was his fault.

If i were to lie about a vasectomy or poke holes in a condom I would be demonized (and possibly charged with rape). No one would question the woman as to why she trusted me and that statement begs the question: does society deem women untrustworthy in these matters. If that is the base line assumption (which is terrible) how are these people justifying this. Assuming what the OP wrote is the truth, at worst if she did not use BC it's rape and at best it's assault or entrapment.

blueoak9 · 2013-01-17T20:53:50+00:00

What a perfect shithole of misandry that comment thread is - shaming language, double standards, white knighting, apology for reproductive inequality. I just lost any respect for a lot of people I don't even know.

PartTimeBadman · 2013-01-17T22:54:23+00:00

Almost every sentence in that story was a red flag to me and he is foolish for not using his own protection. Is it fair that he's now on the hook for the child? Perhaps not, but it strikes me as even less fair that a child should grow up in such an environment. He is plenty old enough to understand the consequences of his actions and really, old enough that he ought to be at least self-sufficient anyway.

Good luck to the abortion, I suppose is the best outcome here.

Bobsutan · 2013-01-18T09:27:19+00:00

For those new to this topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRdq2zqGxgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mwRZeBGiYxw#t=105s

hexcloak · 2013-01-17T22:06:41+00:00

I don't understand what this has to do with men's rights. This guy had unprotected sex with a woman, and is now facing the possibility of having to deal with the consequences. It's called being a man and taking some responsibility.

Paternity is not something a man owes to a woman, it is something a man owes to his offspring. Child support is not something you pay a woman, it is something you pay to a child (to the primary custodial parent, regardless of gender) so that they can have a good childhood.

The woman is just as stupid as the man, and both of their lives have just become a lot more complicated. She didn't manipulate his dick into her vagina without a rubber.

Squishums · 2013-01-17T22:33:52+00:00

This has nothing to do with MRA. He barebacked some psycho ex for months after they split, who can he blame but himself? If you want an education, don't act like a moron.

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