Taking your intro post at face value...

LifterofThings · 2013-10-21T23:22:12+00:00

It's sort of happening/happened already. The "do the right thing by the child" rhetoric is pretty pervasive. Some men are (rightfully) pissed off about it. I expect these numbers of pissed off men will continue to swell (rightfully, again)... so I anticipate this paradigm shift will be short-lived.

I can't do the mental gymnastics to justify forcing a dude to pay for a kid that isn't his, that he doesn't want to pay for. At the same time, the kid often ends up suffering in these instances, for its mother's sins which also is a shitty outcome.

Really the only good, just solution that I can think of is to somehow make married broads and the douchers who impregnate them quit being cheaterfilthbags.

... although if I knew how to accomplish THAT, I'd be motherfuckin rich right now.

Sometimes the world just sucks.

Futsushi · 2013-10-22T02:11:40+00:00

You have to be a troll.

People procreate to pass on their genes. To be the most successful grandparent (evolution style).

Let me go ask my wife to let me impregnate my younger sexy mistress because I want another kid and my wife is past 30, so I need to make sure the kid has the smallest chance possible to have any defects. She should do it right, because she is a great mom and loves kids, who the fuck cares if it is hers.

GTFO

TempestTcup · 2013-10-22T19:38:36+00:00

Indoctrination works really well. Look at the complete and total fear of the sun that this nation has. The powers that be have managed to indoctrinate us into believing that saturated fat is bad for us but overly processed cereals are good.

They have managed to indoctrinate the western world into believing that sluts are strong independent women that are taking control of their sexuality and housewives are oppressed doormats yearning to have their shackles removed.

They have managed to convince us that sons should be feminine and daughters should be masculine. All the sitcoms and commercials show strong smart women and weak stupid men.

So sure, what could ever go wrong with doing a little more indoctrination on men? Look how completely happier men are today than they were 50 years ago! /sarcasm

Or, maybe we could indoctrinate the women into not being whores and perhaps utilizing a tiny bit of self control! I know that it is a radical concept, but it might just work!

Televangelis · 2013-10-21T22:14:34+00:00

Wouldn't the best solution be to indoctrinate men through the culture to stop caring whether the children they raise are their own or not?

European countries like France have already outlawed paternity testing.
You could attempt brainwashing males to that extent. However, I don't think it will work since it's an ingrained instinct into men to be suspicious about adultery, cuckoldry, and the like. Although some men do have fetishes for such but it's a small minority.

Televangelis · 2013-10-22T00:10:25+00:00

One of the basic principles of the red pill is that inborn/instinctive sexual behaviors and strategies cannot be erased with social programming, and anti-biological memes and cultures inevitably create misery and failure.

In other words, we expressly reject Tabula Rasa theories and embrace Nativist thinking.

Televangelis · 2013-10-22T02:11:45+00:00

do people like you never shrink from totalitarianism?

Katyara · 2013-10-22T08:23:59+00:00

Wouldn't the best solution be to indoctrinate men through the culture to stop caring whether the children they raise are their own or not?

Yeah, you lost me at ..indoctrinate. I understand the word I am just uncomfortable with the concept.

I have personal life experience reason advocating for step parents that are sometimes even better then the biological ones from being a step kid and from a peer perspective. I would love to see these men given more legal rights over the children they raise and loosen the adoption restrictions for them.

I don't think we should ever try to force an idea of 'uncaring' about what is important someone, unless it causes malicious harm.

I guess my answer would be no. There's enough out there that don't care and it's a personal preference.

(edit: missed a word)

HarleyWalker · 2013-10-23T01:12:35+00:00

Wouldn't the best solution be to indoctrinate men through the culture to stop caring whether the children they raise are their own or not?

Good luck with that. Most of us are hard wired against it and the type of men that allow this stuff are the betas that she doesn't want to have sex with.

alphabetmod · 2013-10-22T00:31:48+00:00

and why would men allow for that and not just stop this bullshit, put the boot down and put women in purdah tomorrow?

[deleted] · 2013-10-23T06:52:15+00:00

If a single mom is having difficulty finding a provider, perhaps that is the reward for bad behavior (chasing douchebags/deadbeats). The more children 'provider males' have with women will lead to having more total providers in society in general, to everyone's benefit. Subsidizing the bad behavior of men or women is just a bad idea.

But why are you focused exclusively on hypothetically brainwashing males and not females as well? Are these noncommittal males truly the best DNA for the modern era anyway, where mental tasks are more important than how much weight you can lift or how fast you can run? Are we all still running on human software that was written for us 100,000 years ago or more that has little bearing on modern society? If humans hope to continue adapt, evolve, and improve ourselves, I doubt subsidizing bad behavior in males or females will get us where we'd like to be going. Nature is not kind, it is not brutal, it just is.

FleetingWish · 2013-10-22T18:39:21+00:00

The red pill is about accepting innate tendencies.

A woman's innate tendencies tell her to get the highest quality sperm, and secure resources.

A man's innate tendencies tell him to provide for his family and offspring.

Men are only programmed to care about providing and protecting their own children. We can no more teach them to care about other people's children then we could teach them to sexually lust after fat and traditionally unattractive women. Can a man care about someone else's child? I'm sure that it happens all the time, but a lot of men aren't able to do that, and for the ones that are, I'm sure it's not the same. It's really not that hard to imagine, women are not too different as they normally prefer the option of raising their own kids as well.

Title	Taking your intro post at face value...
Author	Televangelis
Upvotes	10
Comments	46
Date	October 21, 2013 9:20 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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