Are women gatekeepers of sex?

VigilantRedRooster · 2017-03-16T21:26:23+00:00

So I think men are the "real" gatekeepers of both sex and commitment. Am I wrong?

Your understanding of this axiom is indeed incorrect. This applies mainly in the realm of initial attraction, and the initial matching and negotiation of a new relationship. Once it's off and running, different couples may evolve different practices, and outliers don't negate the general principle.

This post is more about your personal relationship, than a good grasp of RP principles, so we're going to lock the discussion for now.

veryrealman · 2017-03-16T16:50:48+00:00

I think it's risky to play games like this in a committed relationship. It really depends on the people involved. I'd probably feel rejected, initially, and then eventually want to talk about his problem and request he see a specialist. I've never turned him down for sex, ever, so behaving like this would piss me off. I'd consider it incredibly immature and disrespectful to our marriage.

abdada · 2017-03-16T16:40:54+00:00

It appears that women are far more attracted to a man that behaves as the gatekeeper of sex.

That's only becaues of pre-selection and social proof.

My obviously chauvinistic paternalistic opinion here (30+ years of being Red Pill in relationships) is that women have perfect emotional memory and they don't trust their choices because they've been hurt before.

But when they see a man who OTHER women are attracted to, they say "well this guy is obviously vetted by other women and he won't be a loser like some of my past choices who didn't have an abundance of women to choose from."

Plus, a man with options choosing you can feel validating. Proof that you haven't hit The Wall.

smirk_addict · 2017-03-16T17:49:35+00:00

It basically sounds like you are demonstrating higher value. My friend does something similar. He goes out with girls and when things get physical, he stops and tells them he doesn't want sex. When he see them again they always try to seduce him and then they don't feel used because they're in the drivers seat.

I think it's a lack of instropection and insecurity issue. I think many women don't conciously think about what they can offer to a man besides sex. So him showing restraint makes them somewhat desperate to bang him. Of course, if she already finds him attractive. Many woman are too caught up in their emotions to understand how such a simple thing can increase their desire for a man.

HobbesTheBrave · 2017-03-16T17:56:51+00:00

That axiom is an introduction for new redpillers. Just like 'babies happen when mommy and daddy are hugging'.

Older redpillers understand the axioms and the rules better, and they know better when they don't apply. AWALT, for instance.

veryrealman · 2017-03-16T18:45:54+00:00

sure, but it only works where she already wants it. it drives her crazy because she's used to people giving her what she wants, and she's used to always getting sex when she wants it.

this does not apply to the 80% of men who are betas, and the huge % of those betas who are incel. they don't even get the opportunity to deny women, because the women didn't want them in the first place.

nonthaki · 2017-03-16T17:47:24+00:00

That's how frustrating life is . We (both genders) have to play this game all throughout our life .

Sometimes it seems - When women become powerful, they become more cunning. When men become powerful, they become more uncaring.

testmypatience · 2017-03-16T17:46:07+00:00

radioactivities9 · 2017-03-16T19:27:49+00:00

If a man never initiates sex he ain't getting it from me. He can even get it elsewhere for all I care then. Doesn't mean I always expect him to initiate.

Title	Are women gatekeepers of sex?
Author	veryrealman
Upvotes	0
Comments	23
Date	March 16, 2017 4:38 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/5zrnlu/are_women_gatekeepers_of_sex/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/RedPillWomen/are-women-gatekeepers-of-sex.167197 https://theredarchive.com/post/167197

Comments