Week ago I got a girls number at a club. 18 was about an 8. Nice girl, claims to be a virgin.

Long story short her friend took a photo with a famous celeb with me in it too, she gave me her number to send the photo of me and the celeb.

Next day texted them both. Virgin was cold, shit chat. Friend was happy flirting and cool.

Two days later the virgin hits me up tells me how she was like "Youre just like other guys hitting on my mate" I didnt apologize and shamed her for being cold in texts encouraging me to lose interest.

We talk briefly rest of the week. I ask her out to a bar. 2nd time now, she was like "oh I'm busy this week" to which I managed her to admit it "I'm not on it sorry."

Unlike most men, many red pillers I do no have the time, effort, energy to text and stimulate a girl no matter how hot she is, if shes initially doubtful or not it.

Because there absolutely 1000s of hot, young cool and sexy girls who would want to fuck me.

Jumping through hoops, running "convince game" as I call it is beta bullshit.

So what, you finally got out with her. Queue not getting any action until you finally do, or worse being immediately friendzoned. Or worse finding out shes crap in bed. Or she's got saggy tits. Or a wide vag. Woopty fucking do.

Guys, it may seem obvious but honesty is the best policy. Ask them "youre not on it, are you?" and if they aren't thank them for the emotional time, energy and money saved from not taking a thundercunt or disinterested bitch out.

PLENTY of women out there who would go out with you and fuck you instead. Its like in business, concentrate on the customer who is far more keen.