Shit tests from beta males

DevilishRogue · 2014-05-24T02:34:53+00:00

Weaksauce attempt to AMOG you.

Ignore, the more he tries the more he'll make himself look like a dick.

-Tyler_Durden- · 2014-05-24T02:17:14+00:00

Only women who you are trying to fuck can give you shit tests.

Shit test are tests women give men to make sure they will be good mates. Unless you want to fuck your friend then he is just being a dick and trying to assert his dominance in the group. If he pisses you off so much then stop associating with him.

ablank1313 · 2014-05-23T23:55:12+00:00

I think that he is obviously trying to make himself look better in the eyes of your friends. Just ignore him. I guess it depends on how close you are with him/how often you see him in social situations, but I would abort friend

ben0wn4g3 · 2014-05-24T13:00:12+00:00

This is called banter. You just banter back.

"James you're obsessed with that place."

"Only because your mum goes there"

As for the picking you up thing, I would let him know I would punch him next time he does it, then next time he does it I would punch him.

DKRises · 2014-05-24T01:54:03+00:00

Sounds to me like he sees you as competition. Aka he's jealous of how you live your life and is trying to downplay you in front of people.

Ignore him, what's your size compared to his? He picks you up, next time he does this sternly push him away and say stop picking me up. Very high chance he will say something demeaning like: "aww are you mad? Poor baby." Ignore whatever he says and walk away, do not answer him.

He should stop, if he doesn't, move into a "next time you pick me up, I will physically stop you". And follow through, usually a good hard jab followed with "Enough!"

If you still have an issue, move into getting the police involved. (extreme)

I'd also start single text conversations with the girls and invite them out places instead of dealing with a group text. Why? Because then the girls get to know YOU and when he tries to downplay you, it makes him look like an asshole.

Also if you really want to get really on his nerves, get with the girl he likes. :)

Hyooge · 2014-05-24T03:32:08+00:00

This guy comes off as hyper insecure.

You know when you were eight years old, and the only way to tell a girl you like her was to make fun of her, or push her to the ground. This reeks of that type of behavior.

He's not sure about himself, so he is constantly trying to put the spotlight on you, not only to distract from himself, but to see how you handle it.

Confidence, and not bothering to play his games, will work the best. Also, seriously consider walking away from this "friend".

You won't have been the first one to notice this, I really think your other friends would feel the same about this guy.

My thoughts on this come from experience. I'm super beta, admitted this many times in past posts. This does not reek of beta, but faux alpha.

paracog · 2014-05-24T06:45:19+00:00

Unlike a woman, you can actually coldcock this dude.

hranon · 2014-05-24T15:07:43+00:00

Act like you think he's adorable. EG, if he tries picks you up say something like "whoah, bro, we've discussed this. I don't swing that way."

Teutonicfox · 2014-05-24T05:25:33+00:00

if you cant resist a drunk guy picking you up, you are the beta.

give him a warning loud enough for others to hear... not for his sake, for others to back up your side of the story. then knock his ass out.

and dont talk to him again if you can help it.

failbirdtown · 2014-05-24T09:40:26+00:00

Next time he picks you up, knock him out.

kingjerksupreme · 2014-05-24T09:43:45+00:00

you're getting bullied… stop being a pussy and set some boundaries, when he crosses them put him in check… personally I would tell your friend touch me again and ill choke you out. Then when he inedibly does, choke him till he taps. He's got to learn not to mess with you.

greycloud24 · 2014-05-24T15:12:32+00:00

consider him help. you see he is kind of like the fat girl friend of the pretty girl. he is there to give you contrast. next to him, you look like a better person. hold your frame, and use it to frame him as part of the casting crew. inside the frame you and him are not opposed.

he takes a picture of you and another girl and shows it to your girl, you were helping him become a better photographer, you were being nice and helping that girl with her future in modeling. you are a fun guy to know.

he picks you up. this is my strong friend, watch out he is a beast!

he does passive/aggressive action X against you. compliment him on action X, talk him up, agree and amplify. you are the one who's opinions matter, you are the one who gives validation.

if he is really trying and it is really looking like a shit test and messing with your game, turn it into a frame of having to bat him off with the rest of the women. hey man, you are cool and all but i'm into girls. you are a great guy, but i'm looking for a great girl.

the more you play it off like a conflict the more he draws you into his frame. he can't win if you don't let him win, because ultimately if he wants to use violence to win a frame battle he just looks like a controlling abusive asshole. (that will still win some women over, but as the eurythmics said "some of them want to be abused", and lets face it those aren't the women you are looking for).

take everything i say with a grain of salt. i understand the system, but ultimately i am a phase 4 red piller. i am MGTOW, i understand the nature of women, and i have lost respect for them because of it. i am trying to overcome my disgust and see the good things in it, but that is the hill i am at atm.

BitingInsects · 2014-05-24T03:50:01+00:00

Ignoring always works. They either give up after a while or do something drastic that makes them look really dumb. I have a guy that does this... worse off - he has a girlfriend and still goes out without her and gets jealous when his single friends get attention from women.

KyrieMcIvory · 2014-05-24T07:27:55+00:00

Either it's jealousy, or he's hitting on you. Seriously being shit tested by another man sounds a lot like he's trying to qualify you.
Ignore him, and next time he goes to pick you up look him dead in the eye and say "bro, I like you, but you lay your hands on me again and you'll have a broken nose."

Crisis88 · 2014-05-24T09:08:59+00:00

Passive agressive AMOGing. Can't take you direct, whittling at you indirectly. Just shut him down blunt next time.

Offensive_Brute · 2014-05-24T10:40:36+00:00

Hes trying to establish dominance over you, physically and socially, but he's not going about it in a particularly civilized way. I'd start a campaign to nudge him out of the social group. I you see him behaving like this with other people, make a comment about the behavior, and they will become your allies in getting this guy to fuck off.

RPSavant · 2014-05-24T12:40:01+00:00

from the sound of it he views you as the beta male.

TheWarriorKing21 · 2014-05-24T13:18:06+00:00

He isn't shit testing you. he doesn't respect you as a man. You need to work on having and enforcing boundaries. If some dude tried to pick me up, after I told him not to. he would be getting concussion.

NakedFist · 2014-05-24T15:10:23+00:00

I wouldn't be friends with someone who consistently does stuff that bothers you. If when you bring it up he ignores and continues, he's not a good friend. Don't spend your time and effort on people who don't add to your life.

NotMeUsee · 2014-05-25T00:12:37+00:00

He's gay and wants your D

LS_D · 2014-05-25T11:42:26+00:00

I'd patronize him .. if he picked me up I'd say "hey bro you''re really strong" and laugh

and basically agree with but not amplify but increase this guys bullshit ,, esp by saying stuff like "yeah yeah, you're right, I agree with you ,, you're absolutely right!",, when it's clear you really dont,, will bust his bullshit frame game pretty quick as 'what can he say to that?'

frequentlywrong · 2014-05-24T05:46:05+00:00

It doesn't matter; the shit tests don't stop. I'm tempted to lash out at him, but I guess that's losing frame and then everyone would know he's getting to me.

If you're not confident in your fighting abilities, take up martial arts. MMA/Muay Thai/BJJ. This will fix the problem without violence between you. He will not have the guts to disrespect you after you have been training for a while. This is why taking up martial arts is so beneficial. It gives you confidence and it makes everyone around you respect you way more. These kinds of things do not happen when everyone knows you train a martial art. NOTHING is as effective for getting a good RP mindset other than martial arts.

If you do not want to wait that long. When he blatantly disrespects you, tell him if he does it again you will kick his ass. If he does it again, punch him in the mouth. Do not get psyched up first and work yourself up to anger. Losers need that. Punch him in the mouth and be calm about it. He crossed boundaries that men have thus he needs to be put in his place.

If women are around, they will make a scene. Ignore them. Do not explain yourself beyond the words that he was disrespectful and that is what men get for it. Never explain yourself to women.

If a woman tried to treat you in this way, the proper response is to leave her. But it is not.

TurnDownForWhat · 2014-05-24T14:08:01+00:00

I'd say you gotta ask yourself how alpha are you? Because by the sound of it you may be the beta male in this scenario. Furthermore, everyone is trying to tell you to coldcock this fucker, I'd advise it if and only if the girls of the group arnt around. Here is why, you do something in front of them it can go 1 of 2 ways. 1) Jesus OP that was embarrassing. Or 2) I've never seen a side of OP like that it was scary (I.E. the scene from The Great Gatsby where Leonardo loses frame and blows it with Daisy). They'll be no crown or trophy for you unless this fuck you speak of is a public enemy. No one wants to Suck off the guy who won or lost a fight. It just makes you look weak. However you can cold cock this fucker when the girls are not around. Because then they are going to hear it through the Grapevine and these second hand stories always leave some wiggle room assuming you remain the same dude while telling the story.

AboveAFC · 2014-05-24T17:36:03+00:00

If he picks you up again yell "I'm not gay!" Then grab the hair on his head with both hands and yank his head back. He will fall over backward no matter how much more than you he weighs. Be careful not to drive his head into the ground unless you want to damage him.

Hyooge · 2014-05-24T21:35:39+00:00

These guys are the worst. Give them no mercy because they will not stop trying to one up over you. Supposedly your friend but will backstab you whenever new people come along to try to humilate and degrade you.

I was walking with a "friend" of mine a few years back and a new girl I'd just met and out of no where he says "Hyooge have you lost your virginity yet?" and I just looked at him like he was stupid but at the same time was dumbfounded how a friend of mine was trying to kill my chances and frame with the girl I was with.

The massive dilemma these guys do is associate with you but then chat shit on you. Their actions/taunts have these results on other people:

Make you look like a loser, and offers very little ability to counteract what they said. The worst you can do is deny.
It makes them look like a loser too. Why would they spend time with someone who they paint a negative image of? People wonder if they have no other friends.

My suggestion to OP is to take your friend to a private place, look him in the eye and ask why he is saying things like that. Ask him is that what friends do, trying to embarrass one another in the public eye. Tell him off like he's a naughty child and tell him you do not want him to do it again because you don't like it. Then shake hands and speak no more of it.

The overarching message concerning friends is pick ones who are happy, confident in themselves and will support you even if you aren't there. Whenever I meet a girl or two and the topic of my friends comes up I talk up my friends to make it appear that they are really cool even if they aren't. It puts my mates in good light and that feeds off onto me.

Title	Shit tests from beta males
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Date	May 23, 2014 11:39 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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