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The Real Need for the Redpill

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September 2, 2018

I see a lot of men that are just discovering the redpill coming on here and using their new found life philosophy as a vehicle to improve their sex lives with their wives. Although increasing sex life quality is a natural positive consequence of red pill, it is just that... a natural consequence. It shouldn't be a narrow sighted goal of being redpill. Pussy isn't the primary objective. Being a awesome ass, best version of yourself is the goal. You will see an overall gain in areas of your life, not just sex life improvement.

All you new and struggling guys on here need to let that sink in. The vast majority of women (excluding the outliers like crazies) are naturally attracted to men that are secure, own their behavior and shit, are assertive and not passive-aggressive, leaders (provide vision and direction), and guys with purpose. Redpill is about improving you. You are only thing in this universe that you have control over, so that's what it's really about. You don't have to be perfect (in fact you can't), but the probability of a good woman disrespecting or even leaving a man that exhibits strength in all the qualities above, AND who is always self improving, is very low.

For all the newbies and struggling men on here, I highly recommend a book that is NOT part of the sidebar reading, but really should be. In fact, I urge comments and discussion about this book if you've read it (or read it because of this post). It's called "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" by Stephen Covey. The book is generally thought of as a business self help oriented book, but it's not. I found a TON of redpill truth in it, and I found it to be a great book for developing a strong character. The author hints a slight Christian spin, but I wouldn't call it a religious book at all. It spells out theories, examples and cases of how to be proactive in your life, how to effectively prioritize, how to envision a process from start to finish, how to view the world that is full of abundance and think win-win, how to get to mutual understanding in ANY relationship, how to be interdependent and synergize, and finally, strive for continuous improvement.

I found the book to be one of the most helpful books in my life. I recommend it to anyone! Own your shit and take control of your life. This book can and will help you do that!

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Title The Real Need for the Redpill
Author dll142
Upvotes 7
Comments 26
Date 02 September 2018 03:27 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/204059
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/9ccv1k/the_real_need_for_the_redpill/
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[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

People can only learn that pussy isn't the objective after they are successful and get pussy. This whole thing starts out for most men as a covert contract to get laid. Once they're getting laid on the reglaur the importance of having a mission or a goal to work towards becomes obvious.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

it's the only bait n switch that's ever worked out for a guy, in the history of ever.

[–]redwall921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That one time in Taiwan, though...

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

First you say

Pussy isn't the primary objective. Being an awesome ass, best version of yourself is the goal.

But then you say

The vast majority of women (excluding the outliers like crazies) are naturally attracted to men that are secure, own their behavior and shit, are assertive and not passive-aggressive, leaders (provide vision and direction), and guys with purpose. ... the probability of a good woman disrespecting or even leaving a man that exhibits strength in all the qualities above, AND who is always self improving, is very low.

in other words, that it's about attracting and keeping women after all. This "I'm only doing this for me, really. Except that I'm not really" hamstering is prevalent here; be consistent.

Each man is here for his own reasons to achieve his own goals. If more and better sex is your goal, own it and go for it. I get tired of the constant MRP-PC disclaimers here that "I'm only doing this for my own self-improvement, not for sex," which counts as conformist political correctness around here.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Eating isn't everything bro, why you focus so much on not starving when you should be focused on being the best man, by some random metric that I don't define, and expect you to fill in the blanks anways

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you should be focused on being the best man, by some random metric that I don't [you] define [for yourself]

I agree. But if that metric is to be a top PUA or to fuck three times a day, who am I or OP to criticize this goal?

[–]matrixtospartanatLVRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I respectfully disagree with the premise of your assertion of the need for TRP/MRP.

I submit that you have it exactly backwards.

The Red Pill came into existence as a continuation of the original PUA strategies that were a first response to the rise of the feminine imperative in mating strategies as created by the gynocracy.

Specifically, The Red Pill is a sexual strategy which has becoming a man/masculine as a natural consequence.

The following is submitted for your edification:


I would add, I’m here for the masculinity.

Sex inside my marriage was never a problem, but the sex she had outside the marriage, was.

So I’m here for the masculinity, which is a byproduct of developing a better sexual strategy.

[–]Fritz_Frauenraub12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

This poast epitomizes the least attractive aspects of red pill...the empty, "positive thinking" tony robbins huckster side.

I feel a need to drink a bottle of tequila & skip leg day for a month after reading this crap.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anthony Robbins is awesome. Your a faggot.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tony sucked my cock,he's a faggot.

[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Self-help is masturbating your life with two hands. Jerking off to the void trying to fool yourself into believing you're fine with just a little tweaking.

The Red Pill is not about improving you. You suck. It's about taking the superfluous parts of a man that lack assertiveness, attractiveness and willingness to act in his own interest and discarding them.

[–]trp_lurking1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

” I have found in speaking to various non-LDS groups in different cultures that we can teach and testify of many gospel principles if we are careful in selecting words which carry our meaning but come from their experience and frame of mind.” [Steven Covey, Divine Center, p. 240.]

7 Habits has some good advice but lots of books have good advice and don’t try to convert you to Mormonism along the way.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

don’t try to convert you to Mormonism along the way.

Ha. This is akin to those people who say they don't want to lift because they don't want to look like arnold. You aren't going to read a book and suddenly become mormon. Pretty sure the local ward wouldn't even accept me.

[–]trp_lurking0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I exaggerated for effect- but the point is Covey wrote his books for the purpose of making Mormon ideas palatable to the masses. He did a good job at it, too.

[–]SepeanRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The thing is, religious people think that morality and work ethic and compassion and whatnot comes from their religion. That’s why they say stuff like “without god, what stops us from being rapists and murderers?”

So they think that if you adopt their successful non-religious ideas, you’ll begin to follow their religion. Which is nonsense, there is a twice over mistaking correlation for causality at play, but that’s how they think.

I’m an atheist and strongly anti-religious, and I liked Coveys book enough to give 7 Habits as an xmas present for all my employees.

[–]becoming_alpha0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

A Mormon trying to spread mormonism is exactly what should be expected. It shows they are doing what they believe. Don't be surprised by it.

I've just been reading Covey's The Divine Center, and it's the most RP book I've seen from a Mormon perspective. MRP is amoral, but as a Mormon, I have adopted and follow a moral code which is compatible with MRP in most facets. The big difference being no sex outside marriage, but that's way up on the dread levels so need not apply to fundamental changes.

MRP says be your own judge. Mormonism says let God be your judge, but lots of Mormons (and lots of guys for that matter) let their wife be their judge and become the center of their life up on a pedestal. In Divine Center, Covey says don't let your wife be the center of your life (your mission really), or work, or possessions, or friends. He says keep God at the center, then make your own decisions about everything else. It's a healthy message for Mormon blue pillers to hear their wife shouldn't be their mission, and they need to direct their own lives.

[–]RedPillCoach1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have you found /r/RPChristians ?

Red Pill is fully compatable with Christianity. Takes a couple tweeks and reading the actual text for most Blue Pill denominations but Red Pill is truth and Scripture is 100% Red Pill.

[–]becoming_alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I like the approach at RPChristians. I think it's good to throw out the slight tweak that comes from the Mormon perspective with institutionalized oneitis... i.e. the only way to get to the highest level of heaven is to be eternally married. None of this until death do us part stuff, Mormons are locked in forever... unless they get divorced.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The Bukowski books are easier to relate to.

[–]abudun790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a lot of opinion and very little information.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree the book is a good add, however, most newbies sidestep some of the list and skip around, then state they are doing body weight exercises and 28% body fat.

There is no traction in their story.

The objective is to do the work at hand, achieve some goals, own your life, and seek other books and improvements knowing this is not an idle game.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The 7 Habits could be on the sidebar especially if there were a specific section for self-help books. That might not be a bad idea to collect 3-4 Red Pill-esque self help books for the MRP sidebar. Some mods may be interested.

Before we get to the 7 habits on self help and frame development we would need to include:

-The Way of the Superior Male

-The Art of War

-The Meditations of Marcus Aralias

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ad from the 80’s ?

That’s an old fucking book.

Synergy? Ha. Working in teams is retarded. Group think dumbs Everything down.

[–]boy_named_su-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not a question

Post this on /r/marriedredpill

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't be pedantic.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Please don't.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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