Reminder to get your T-Levels Checked

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capn_barnacles
October 12, 2017
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Reminder for the newer people starting out that might be struggling. I've been at it 7 months, some improvement, but very, very slow.

Just got my T-level results back. I wasn't having some of the traditional symptoms (no ED, I sleep well, etc.), but had a hunch something might be off based on low libido, general mood/confidence, etc.

Just got the results back: 106. Ugh. Wish I had done it sooner. Immediate call to the Endocrinologist.


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Title Reminder to get your T-Levels Checked
Author capn_barnacles
Upvotes 8
Comments 19
Date 12 October 2017 03:26 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/205287
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/75xpue/reminder_to_get_your_tlevels_checked/
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[–]2ndalRed Beret5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Reposting a comment I made a few weeks ago about TRT.

If you're stopping by this thread and wondering if TRT is for you, do your fucking research first. For some, TRT is a lifelong commitment and it should not be taken lightly. It's not just about increasing your T levels. There are a whole range of levels you need to be aware of and regulate as artificially increasing your T causes other things to be out of range which causes symptoms that can be as bad or worse than low T.

Let me tell you how it worked for me.

I was diagnosed with low T a year ago and went to a local clinic to get on a protocol. (Note: be VERY careful with who you choose to work with. Low T Clinics have boomed over the last few years and there are a lot of shops that don't know what the fuck they're doing. Trust me. I went to one.)

They did a blood panel and started me off on one shot of Test C 150mg and 500IU of HCG per week plus 1mg of an estrogen blocker to keep my E levels regulated. The first three months of treatment were a fucking rollercoaster ride of highs and lows. The T shot would skyrocket my T while the E blocker would tank my E. It's too bad they weren't paying attention to other important levels, like SHBG, because if they had been (like the great online clinic did that I eventually found, DM me) they would have noticed that the low SHBG meant I was reacting to T differently than others, with the artificial T leaving my system much quicker. They changed my protocol to 140mg per week but broken up into shots every other day instead of weekly and cut my E blocker out completely. Within two weeks I was feeling better than I had in years, with less T and no E blocker, and the blood panels show it. My point is this: it's not as easy (for some) as just getting a shot of T and feeling great. You need a trusted medical professional to read your bloodwork and know what the fuck to do.

[–]NightFire451 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd suggest before anybody goes to a doctor visit r/steroids for a while and read the sidebar. It gives a lot of good information and will help by being informed when talking to a doctor.

[–]2ndalRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think /r/testosterone is a better place to start. They're more focused on regulating hormones to normal levels, not blasting beyond them to increase gains.

[–]King_Husband1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Couldn't agree more! Mine was low ~18 months ago and doc put me on shots every 2 weeks. Come to find out I too have low SHBG and I'm still trying to dial in my protocol to this day. Being on testosterone is not a wonderful as commercials make it out to be.

[–]2ndalRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you have low SHBG like me, you could benefit from much more frequent injections. I do mine every other day.

[–]redsprinklersystem1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anyone in the UK have any experience with this? Under the glorious NHS I think you'd have to rock up to your doctor with a voice of mickey mouse and bald from the ears down before they would entertain ideas of low T. There will be private clinics but that shit is EXPENSIVE.

I did wonder whether I could be a 'low end of normal' guy after reading many comments here, and I considered juicing for a while since I'd love to get really jacked. I'm fucking terrified that I'd screw up and wind up literally a bitch-tits-Bob though, so resigned not to fuck around with it (plus the legality and thoughts of sticking myself with fuck knows what from a sketchy source......)

On the flip side, dropping a bunch of lard, lifting heavy and supplementing fish oil and a general multivitamin daily to a cleaned up diet - has me already feeling better than I have since I was about 20.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Shit, that sucks.

I found this to be helpful as well - http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/01/18/how-to-increase-testosterone-naturally/ - start in with the multivitamin, fish oils, and diet change.

[–]2ndalRed Beret1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

How did you find this information helpful? Did you do full blood panels before and after trying to increase your levels naturally? Did they work?

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Step one - I had to realize it was a problem. While I was "normal", it was the low end of normal - thus the need to do something about it. The article mentioned jived with all of the other research out there about raising testosterone naturally, so I used that as a baseline on what to do.

I've been working on increasing my testosterone naturally by the items mentioned, and yes, I feel a heck of a lot better. At the end of the year I'll do bloodwork again and see what progress has been made.

[–]2ndalRed Beret1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

It's articles like that and mock advice like yours that really piss me off when it comes to Testosterone.

If someone came to you and said they had diabetes, how would it look if you casually linked them to some bullshit article about sniffing essential oils to cure a serious disease? You'd look like a real prick.

Low T is often the symptom of a legit medical condition that is rarely treated by such because of the amount of bullshit out there about it.

If you're suffering from a condition that causes you to produce low testosterone, eating the right foods or taking the right vitamins is not going to fix it. Stop spreading this bullshit.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

You seem surprisingly sensitive about this. Yeah, such bad advice from /u/SteelSharpensSteel. Why in the hell would better diet, sleep, exercise be good for anyone? I mean, you wouldn't want to provide your body with the necessary building blocks to produce testosterone right?

Fucking with hormones is no joke. Supplementing with testosterone is life altering. Your body will cease to produce it naturally for the rest of your life. There really is no stopping once you start or else you are really fucked even worse than before.

I can see that you are deeply entrenched in your position here and I am not trying to sway you. If it works for you great. I just would like to support /u/SteelSharpensSteel position along with a myriad of articles and studies on the topic. But, apparently that is just hocus pocus bullshit.

[–]2ndalRed Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah man. I am just sick of all of the misinformation out there. You have some in your comment too. Your body doesn't cease producing it for the rest of your life. Many people start TRT and stop it and their body returns to producing normal levels. Not everyone though. Many people (myself included) take HCG as well which tricks your testicles into continuing to produce it, making it easier to come off of TRT if you choose to. Also keeps 'em from shrinking.

By all means try natural shit if you're just looking for a boost. But OP has levels of 106 which is WAY low and I'd be surprised if he didn't have some other condition causing it. He needs to see a doctor, not take fucking multivitamins.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'd be surprised if he didn't have some other condition causing it

OP is fat and not lifting heavy.

[–]2ndalRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is he? Fuck. Nevermind.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I get that. If someone said they had diabetes, I'd say go to a doctor, preferably a endocrinologist who sees patients with diabetes all the time.

I don't disagree with you on the symptom piece. There's a ton of stuff out there on what to be done. The key point is to go see a doctor. For myself, I did speak to two doctors on this topic, as well as what I'm doing about it to move it up, and they were ok with my plan - but that's my situation, not anybody else's. I'm not at a point where I need shots or anything, but I want to see what can be done without having to take medicine.

The key takeaway is to get yourself tested and go see a doctor, preferably a specialist.

[–]2ndalRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. This would have been a much better original piece of advice versus linking to some bullshit hocus pocus article.

[–]SimilarSalvation0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Could you please elaborate on the T(estosteron?)-levels, what symptoms to look for, why this is bad, etc..

This is the first I have heard about this and I am intrigued..

[–]Tebulus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Low libido, lack of energy/motivation, feeling like a baby that life is too hard for. Easy to confuse with just acting like a bitch but in some cases you may actually not have enough flowing through you in which case a doctor may prescribe a supplement to correct your low levels.

Naturally, lifting and performing difficult physical tasks can slowly increase your levels or unfuck someone on the lower end of the normal but if you have a deficit most people report a complete positive turnaround after supplementing.

Book of pook is good reading about testosterone in general and ask your doc for a blood panel to test for it.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

not a question



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