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Suporting The Next Generation of Alphas

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January 12, 2017
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So I got thinking, I am making all of this progress in my personal life which is extending into my family life. However, I am concerned about my son. I understand my frame should extended to him and he should see that as an example. However, are there any books or reading material others have seen that covers the rearing of male offspring from a slight RP perspective? Honestly, if someone had given me some of these tactics as a young man I would be much more confident, able to shut down shit tests, and not be 10 years behind in my understanding of what women need. I know MRP development is fairly new, but we almost need a Children Red Pill to ensure our sons grow up to be the alphas we know they can.


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Title Suporting The Next Generation of Alphas
Author luckie_duckie
Upvotes 11
Comments 19
Date 12 January 2017 05:03 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206659
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/5nki74/suporting_the_next_generation_of_alphas/
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[–]alphabeta49Red Beret8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Others have said it, showing him your actions and being really honest about your successes and failures, especially as he gets into pre-teens and teen years, is going to do the most good.

Resources are out there, but scarce. I'm not far along the journey enough to be an expert on the topic, but wouldn't it be helpful to be able to say more than "son, don't do what I did"?

I'm a mod at r/redpillfatherhood. There's not much there, not for lack of interest, but my time is stretched right now. As new as red pill is for single guys, you can imaging how fertile the fields are for a fatherhood revival. As you come across resources, ideas, epiphanies, etc feel free to post them over there. Maybe xpost them back to here for traffic.

[–]InvincibleKraken5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy

I read Raising Men by Eric Davis and thought it was decent. Supposedly Navy SEAL lessons applied to fatherhood. He emphasizes teaching your kids about risk and letting be responsible early.

I just got Boys Adrift by Leonard Sax. Recommended by the Boy Scouts, and haven't started yet, but it supposedly includes a mentoring program to lead boys to men as they develop.

I've found the concept of Extreme Ownership, especially the chapter about leading up and down (it is your responsibility to make sure those under you completely understand instructions and are equipped to succeed), to be useful as I think about parenting.

Basically, I focus on teaching my son to be responsible, to control his emotions, to think highly of himself and work to be better and not give up.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

to think highly of himself

these are really powerful words. Given the number of females influencing these young men (teachers @ school, swimming, etc) and leading them to believe they're not doing it right, reinforcing the idea that they're good, valuable people is quite important. Thanks for the reminder.

[–]InvincibleKraken0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

He has a kind of fascination with construction equipment. A relative (female) laughed at him and told him he needed to "start thinking about the real world." I immediately took him home, stopping at at tractor dealership on the way, and told him he can do whatever he wants, he shouldn't let other people limit him.

[–]mrpCamper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Hey. Don’t ever let somebody tell you… You can’t do something. Not even me. Alright? You got a dream… You gotta protect it. People can’t do something’ themselves, they wanna tell you you can’t do it. If you want something’, go get it. Period.”

[–]atlhartRed Beret4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

I can't speak more highly of the Boy Scouts as a great program for boys to learn to be men.

BUT, you, the father, must be involved. The design of Boy Scouts is amazing, but the execution can be a Beta factory. Strong male role models are needed to make sure your son learns the proper lessons and follows the proper examples.

Most male adults I'm around are pretty worthless when you it comes to anything that's outside their comfort zone, or that doesn't go according to The Plan (as defined by the joker). I'm always johnny on the spot of how to adjust and keep things moving, and I attribute a lot of it to skills I learned in becoming an Eagle Scout.

Even simple stuff like making a fire. The number of grown ass men that I know that can't make a fire is embarrassing.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most male adults I'm around are pretty worthless when you it comes to anything that's outside their comfort zone, or that doesn't go according to The Plan (as defined by the joker). I'm always johnny on the spot of how to adjust and keep things moving, and I attribute a lot of it to skills I learned in becoming an Eagle Scout.

Even simple stuff like making a fire. The number of grown ass men that I know that can't make a fire is embarrassing.

This.

Can't build a fire. Can't read an instruction manual for an appliance. Can't do the repairs/troubleshooting that is in that manual. Can't order a part for the appliance and replace it. Can't do even the most basic home repairs. Can't do a rudimentary diagnosis on a car's problem. Don't have the slightest idea how an automobile works. Cant even put air in the tires.

Can't think critically. Can't observe a set of facts and reach a conclusion supported by those facts. Can't articulate a paragraph or sentence to support, defend or attack a position.

[–]InvincibleKraken1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Talked to a guy just today. His car quit running. On his way home from work. He called for a ride while standing on the interstate. Ride got there, realized the guy was out of gas. This guy tells me this story with a straight face. I just nodded, chuckled, and walked away.

[–]InvincibleKraken0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I lead his troop. You're right--I'm the only male leader in the entire program. The rest are women. Most of the dads aren't even involved; it's the moms who show up, bring the kids, and are involved. Disgraceful. I've noticed the same thing you do--most men are not role models.

[–]atlhartRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Jesus that's fucking terrible. I know why the men aren't involved, cause they are really children too, but it's fucking terrible.

My Scout Master was a Ranger in Vietnam. Most of our leaders were also ex military. Many of our Eagle Scouts went on to military academies.

How can Boy Scouts churn out leaders of men when run by women?

A shame and a waste.

[–]InvincibleKraken0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That was a big reason I stepped up. I was blown away at the introductory meeting at how few men even attended, let alone were involved.

[–]RuleZeroDADRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I lead his troop. You're right--I'm the only male leader in the entire program. The rest are women. Most of the dads aren't even involved; it's the moms who show up, bring the kids, and are involved.

From an RP perspective, this is also total Abundance and Outcome Independence factory for you.

I have a leadership role in the school system, and am the ONLY fit and attractive father to be found. The majority of fathers don't participate, and the ones that do are complete non-entities. My wife will show up to fund raisers with me, and without fail, a number of the other moms and teachers will bring me drinks and food right in front of her, because I'm "looking too hard, and need softening up a bit."

[–]InvincibleKraken1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It does inspire dread, which I welcome.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're missing a big part of the point.

-Act-

He will see how you act, especially around your wife, and follow.

Be an active part of his development. Put your phone away when you get home from work and engage him. Teach him what you know by showing him what you know.

Above all, for you, stop lamenting the fact you're just learning this stuff now.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rollo is promising to cover this issue in his next book.

[–]Rimann2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey man,

I suggest reading the book Iron John by Robert Bly. In his book Robert addresses the disappearance of male initiation from boyhood into manhood, and the lack of fatherhood, in our modern society. In this book he goes through the Brothers Grimm story of "Iron John" in which a young boy is mentored by a "Wild Man" and guided through the eight stages of male growth. It is probably the best book i've found on the transition from boyhood to manhood

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I take my boys to skatepark 2-3 times a week (a surprisingly women-free zone). I've found it's good Dad-Son's time and most skaters tend to be RP in my experience.

I tell my boys (8 & 10) this is a "good chance for us to be around males since your school is all women.

I've also started subtly pointing out to them the ridiculousness and fiction of all these women movie tough girl heroes.

That being said I am joining scouts for both of them this year



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