Feelings of resentment towards women I attract with TRP?

BetaRecovery · 2014-09-07T20:08:03+00:00

I feel resentment in the same way you do. Get a dog or a cat. Shower your pets with affection. They'll never hate you for it.

Newbosterone · 2014-09-07T19:21:30+00:00

TRP isn't pro-PUA or anti-LTR. Taking TRP does not suddenly mean the racking up the notch count must become your goal in life. TRP is about taking a critical look at inter sexual relations, and seeing the world as it is, not as you were told it is. What you do with that knowledge is up to you. Look up Athol Kay for ideas on how a successful LTR requires a mix of alpha and beta behaviors.

MrArtfulDodger · 2014-09-07T20:53:56+00:00

sometimes I just want to cuddle and hold her...Sometimes I want to stroke her hair while she lies her head on my chest.

Look for girls that are LTR-worthy. They won't mind cuddling as long as you are displaying many alpha traits. It sounds like the women you are talking to right now are only good for pumping and dumping so naturally these aren't the type of women that want to cuddle. They just want to get fucked.

_MrMan_ · 2014-09-07T20:22:21+00:00

You can be a loving red pill guy. It's all about how you frame it. Girls love the bad boy with the heart of gold. The push/pull. Watch any pornos by that guy James Deen or whoever to see what I'm saying. They eat that dude up because he knows when to be rough yet follow it with a soft kiss.

The whole idea that being red pill makes you suppress all these soft tendencies might be necessary at first for a real hard case, but once your frame is strong enough you can open up a little more. Just keep it to a minimum.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-09-08T01:40:40+00:00

It is very distressing but don't make any serious decisions in this phase of unplugging. You don't resent this woman, you resent that this woman is not the Disney idea of womanhood that we have been sold. Don't take it out on her. Would you be really pissed at your puppy for pissing on the floor? NO because that is what puppies do! Don't be made at women for acting like women. Be happy that you know what they like now.

ThrownAwayTRP · 2014-09-08T01:01:59+00:00

Men are the true romantics. You see that everywhere. We genuinely like that stuff and want a woman that's that way, the lovey-dovey shit.

But women don't love us like that. Its not the same way. To me, TRP is about coming to that realization. It's about understanding that they will never want the same things we want. Go read the Women and Men in Love links on the sidebar. That's what helped me with the same feelings you're having.

AFPJ · 2014-09-07T23:00:07+00:00

Stop over-simplifying. Want ONS / FWB? Go full AF. Want LTR? Sprinkle a tiny bit of BB in there.

You can cuddle, holder her, tell her she's adorable, stroke her hair while she lies on your chest and all that other shit you think she'll leave you for, but don't do this with an ONS / FWB or they'll think they can LTR and begin acting out. If you are in an LTR, you can, should & need BB (cuddling etc) but don't do it too much or too often.

mordanus · 2014-09-07T21:04:09+00:00

You are still stuck in the anger phase is all. You haven't fully accepted that AWALT and the fact that this girl likes your rp self makes you respect her less. This is because you still think that there are good girls out there or girls that are "worth it" but there aren't because all women are like that. All women want a red pill man of some variation or amount. Getting angry at her is your blue pill self still being pissed off that women are imperfect creatures or rather that they aren't how you imagined them to be.

Learn to accept women for who they are. Learn that red pill stuff is how it really is and the bullshit fairy tales we worked up in our heads lead us down lonely roads. There is nothing wrong with a woman wanting a rp man. That's the way it's supposed to be.

TheLife_ · 2014-09-08T03:46:32+00:00

This is very much an example of Jungian psychology. You don't resent this woman for who she is, but for the failure of her to live up to the archetype of a woman you've built up in your mind. This is normally good for mate selection, but because your expectation is up in the stratosphere somewhere (not going to make guesses as to where,) I doubt many if any women could convince you not to resent them.

whitey_male · 2014-09-07T20:25:05+00:00

Get a woman you don't like that much. I often wonder how many marriages consist of the woman loving the man and the man not loving her. Seems to be at least half.

2014-09-07T20:31:48+00:00

Just thinking here but maybe now that the veil has been lifted and you placed her on a pedestal in the past, the reality of it might be she's actually not all that. The fantasy you built up in your mind couldn't live up to reality. I would feel resentment from being in her friendzone part of it. You got out of the friend zone, flipped the script and found out she wasn't all that after all. Don't revert to beta-mode. You're treating like an alpha and she loves it. Take it for what it is.

I think it's a good experience to keep in mind to prevent pedestalling in the future.

I always believe that the experiences we have happen for a reason when we're ready to learn from them.

TheReason13 · 2014-09-08T00:12:58+00:00

This is the cursed purgatory, the catch 22 that you must come to terms with. Treat her like a blow up doll and she will love it but you will resent her for it. Treat her with respect and you will love it, but she will resent you for it.

2014-09-07T19:25:36+00:00

Learn about menstruation and ovulation. There are times to be alpha and times to be beta ( while still maintaining frame).

anonlymouse · 2014-09-07T19:56:36+00:00

Stop fucking women you feel resentful towards.

Also, you're supposed to direct those "coddling" feelings towards your small children, not women.

2014-09-07T23:17:18+00:00

As has already been stated, you can still do all those things. Don't suck up, do make her feel good. As long as you're assertive and dominant, manly, fuck her like an animal...she will love to be cuddled and held and told she's pretty and all the other nice things you want to do for her. You can show her affection. But don't ever suck up or seem needy. Do this when she deserves it, just like she probably sucks your dick when she feels you deserve it.

anonlymouse · 2014-09-08T02:03:46+00:00

I know as soon as I revert back to my beta ways, she'll be done. My rational mind tells me that she's just looking for alpha traits, but my emotional mind is just divided by the whole situation.

She's primarily looking for alpha traits, but not just looking for them. You can give her a bit of beta and be OK (the suggestion in RP LTR theory seems to be 4:1, but that's a rough estimate).

Try being just nice enough to keep yourself sane, see if it works. If not, you've got an idea of how nice you can be for the next girl.

NoFatChicks88 · 2014-09-08T03:15:01+00:00

Being nice/giving aren't exactly beta traits. Being nice/giving to people who walk all over you is.

A provider can also be a powerful leader. Don't forget that. But it doesn't sound like she's worth it if she didn't like you before.

ShagggyDog · 2014-09-08T03:56:35+00:00

I know as soon as I revert back to my beta ways, she'll be done.

I have made this mistake before and it is true. But thinking back at it, I think I could balance it by keeping focus. The key is not to lose control. Have your (beta) moments and revert back to RP as your default mode. Still, this might not give you what you want %100...

cascadecombo · 2014-09-08T05:46:23+00:00

For simple lays yes, thats what you do. LTR's need a mix of both in order to keep a stable and happy family. In the end, just like it always has been for men, it's your responsibility to learn and understand how to do this properly.

TILnothingAMA · 2014-09-08T06:18:47+00:00

Same here. I think it's because you realize how not special the girl is.

CryptoManbeard · 2014-09-08T12:49:49+00:00

You can be strong and true to yourself and do nice things for women. Just don't let it cloud your mind. At the point where you start putting up with her bullshit, that's when you've gone too far.

You don't HAVE to be aloof all the time, as long as you are willing to walk away if she acts a fool, you're still on the right path. Having good guy friends helps with this, guy friends will help keep you centered. If she is 100% of your life you're going to have a hard time staying balanced.

87GNX · 2014-09-08T16:01:45+00:00

You can be "gentle and soft" and fuck her like she's your personal sex doll. Sometimes right after each other.

But that comes in time. If you decide you want to make this bitch an LTR then understand that it takes more work and more effort than just having her as a fucktoy. You're gonna basically have to shape her into being the girlfriend you want.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-09-08T17:56:18+00:00

TRP doesn't theorize that you can "never" be "nice" to women. It's the conditions upon which you provide that "niceness" that matter, and that will dictate her level of attraction.

If you decide to be "nice" with some gesture, make sure it is because it's something YOU want to do, not because you think it's what SHE wants. The act is for your gratification, not hers.
Only provide rewards/affection in return for her continued intimacy towards you. Remember, when it comes to affection towards a woman, you must ensure that it is transactional. She started doing anal this week? Reward her for it. She starts being a cunt after the reward? Dread game.
Finally, remember the 2/3rds rule. You provide her 2/3rds of the affection that she is showing you with sex/intimacy.

These are rules for a RP LTR, not necessarily a plate/fuckbuddy. It's when being "nice" turns you into a supplicating chump who bends to her every bitchy demand or whininess; this is when you will start drying up her vagina. Remember, she craves the challenge of pleasing a man she's attracted to. When you're "nice" for no reason, you deprive her of that challenge.

gregd28 · 2014-09-09T00:02:01+00:00

Come on, man. You sound like a woman.

Title	Feelings of resentment towards women I attract with TRP?
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Date	September 7, 2014 6:46 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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