ONS > Plate > FWB > LTR. Doesn't this filter the wrong set of women (women who would ONS/plate to begin with)?

UrIRLFriendLowkey · 2019-03-10T19:52:35+00:00

A valid question. This filter is very poorly designed. The same one filter should not begin with ONS, and end with LTR.

However, end it after the FWB step and don't let it go nowhere further -- and you get a great filter.

And for the LTR look for someone who matches your intellectual level, has at least remotely similar interests, someone who it's generally interesting to spend time with even if you don't have sex during that particular meeting. Much like if you were lookin 4 a friend.

Actually, here are TWO filters that should be there, both working great, instead of that one working shitty:

ONS > Plate > FWB
Platonic friends > FWB > LTR

Don't mix these two filters, they work great when the streams are kept separate, but shitty when mixed down

Zanford · 2019-03-10T22:22:10+00:00

If you fail to ONS / same day lay a girl, that doesn't make her a good girl. She might still same day lay other guys...you'll just never know for sure.

The sooner you have sex with a girl, the more information you get about her sexual mores. If you wait forever, you can't tell whether she's really your magical unicorn, or you just had poor game / were her backup / friendzoned yourself.

kellykebab · 2019-03-11T02:20:26+00:00

This is one of the biggest weaknesses in RP thinking. And I've seen it carried out among friends in real life. They spin plates and then pick a girl who's comfortable being spun as their long term girlfriend. I mean, duh, this is a shit idea.

Unfortunately, a lot of TRP is confirmation bias for AWALT. Your theories have to be falsifiable to be valid, so only selecting for qualities that confirm your cynical theories will never produce any result but AWALT. Being factually realistic does not mean being as pessimistic as humanly possible.

But more to your point, I think you should probably work backwards. What does the closest approximation to your ideal unicorn look like? Okay, what traits does she possess, what are her interests, what is her age, and where does she work and spend her leisure time? Go there and your probability of meeting her increases.

If you start with AWALT (i.e. who cares about individual women, I'm just going to apply "game" and fuck whoever falls for it), obviously you're filtering for the very female type that you most dislike.

I think it's totally fine to spin plates. But the guys who think they've "cracked the code" while selecting for the sluttiest of chicks available are totally deluded.

Alphabetron1 · 2019-03-11T02:37:46+00:00

Yes. This is the one problem I've found with the red pill. There are girls out there (if you look outside the dating apps) that will not under any circumstances fuck a dude on the first date.

These girls most likely aren't 8s, 9s, or 10s and had a rather religious upbringing in the middle of nowhere.

If you really want to meet the LTR girls get off the dating apps and go out and live your life and cold approach.

821sleepingbag · 2019-03-11T15:30:22+00:00

I think you should be allowed to follow a slightly less sexual pathway: get a number, go on three dates (split bill) and then bang and turn into a fwb. Then from fwb go to a relo if she doesn’t show any red flags.

That said If you are a high enough quality man you can get any girl into FWB. Assuming there are types of girls who don’t like fucking and that u are missing out on them is ignorant of AWALT. A girl that u think you could only fuck after going on dates Chris brown could probably fuck after a night at the club. These are the same women you are just splitting them into two categories in your head. In actuality they lie of a spectrum of the SMV required to get sex. Some lie higher up the spectrum (chicks who don’t fuck you but would fuck Chris brown) and some at the bottom ( the kinda chicks you fuck on a ONS).

LordDunderhead · 2019-03-11T17:39:24+00:00

Excellent thread. I reckon this is one of the main reasons TRP is a self fulfilling prophecy. By following those rules, men inevitably attract the women they despise, which consequently sets them up for failure and long-term unhappiness. Repeat ad infinitum

MrAgamemnon · 2019-03-10T19:06:44+00:00

If your SMV is high enough each and every girl will sleep with you on the first night.

Venenarium · 2019-03-11T12:25:22+00:00

Every girl would be a ONS/Plate for the right guy.

Why do you have a problem with it/what's wrong with that?

Thotasaurus_Rex · 2019-03-13T02:57:51+00:00

Some girls will only accept an LTR for you but would ONS another guy.

Title	ONS > Plate > FWB > LTR. Doesn't this filter the wrong set of women (women who would ONS/plate to begin with)?
Author	juntio49
Upvotes	35
Comments	42
Date	March 10, 2019 7:05 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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