Don't be a girl

itchymuller · 2014-10-05T16:35:21+00:00

I have to disagree mostly.

Improving SMV is of course mostly for yourself. It creates confidence and makes you feel better about yourself... for yourself. But that doesn't mean you are improving yourself to become better bait. It means you are gathering better equipment to catch more and better fish.

Judging your own SMV is important. It revolves around self-reflection and only with self-reflecting can you improve yourself. It wasn't untill most of us realized that a woman's reaction to us changed when we improved our SMV that we fully grasped its power.

Like Dave Chappelle said: If we could fuck women in a cardboard box, we wouldn't need a house. There is some truth in that. If we didn't need the SMV to get laid, most of us wouldn't bother. Take what you want from that it but for me it's about realizing that our sexual succes is reliant on the opinion of women and we shouldn't ignore that. It doesn't give them more power. It gives me more power to know what needs to be done to be more succesful.

It's like saying you don't need a good resumé to get a good job because improving is about myself and not what others think. So I just keep my resumé empty and if I land a job, that's good.

Our world revolves around other people, and other peoples opinion shouldn't be an incentive but it is important for our succes. So we strive to be better people for ourselves with the knowledge that other people will see that. Disregarding that factor, imho, is counterproductive.

Again: judging and improving our SMV is not the same as becoming bait. It's imrpoving our gear and equipment to become better fishermen.

ScottishIslander · 2014-10-05T15:53:45+00:00

This is actually good advice. Doing things for yourself - because YOU want to do it and just be the best you can be is the right attitude to have. If your mindset is that you are hitting the gym so that chicks will be more attracted to you, that will show through when you talk to women. Remember, women are attracted to men who give off a demeanour that they have options, and that they would be perfectly well off without them. Always be the prize.

Johnny10toes · 2014-10-05T17:03:28+00:00

Haha I tried to post something like this a few months ago and it got down voted. I agree they are the bait and you are the fish.

cover20 · 2014-10-05T16:12:11+00:00

TRP should be about sexual strategy. Too often it goes off to self improvement. A little self improvement is fine. Given how shallow women are, that's all you need, as a part of an integrated strategy with Game.

It's all about how you present yourself. You DO want women to be attracted, to have the tingles. You don't earn them. You get them by knowing what causes them, then going forward confidently.

And it doesn't take much. Hence, not much self improvement is needed.

If you want to do more intensive self improvement, we don't care. Literally we don't. If you're doing it for yourself, you don't need our advice or approval. But we have no criticism either.

Tengujin · 2014-10-05T16:43:01+00:00

Seeing things from different perspectives is both important or necessary. The truth is, the way you think is not important as long as it precedes effective action. What matters is what leads to results. If you think that "working out because you are worried about your own SMV" is beta, I don't think it matters. You are working out. You are getting bigger. You are getting results.

It is better not to be paranoid about which of your thought processes is "beta". It's about seeing physical improvement. Being alpha means being the grandmaster. You don't get to call yourself alpha, other people must recognize you for it. Worrying about whether what I am doing is "alpha" or "beta" is a waste. As long as I am taking effective action that leads to results, others will recognize me as being alpha regardless of the motivation for that action.

anonlymouse · 2014-10-05T18:28:29+00:00

Well at least you're not concern trolling, but you're still wrong.

Sexual market value is the best way of describing it. So why use a different term just because women use it?

Trying to improve your attractiveness to females is somewhat beta behavior IMO. Become fit and strong for yourself.

This is hamstering. The reason most people aren't fit or strong is because in the modern world you don't need to be - except to be attractive. You're not becoming fit and strong for yourself, you're being fit and strong so women will find you attractive. It used to be its own reward, it isn't anymore.

The only reason you convince yourself you're doing it for yourself is so that you don't slack once you get a girl. Similarly, you want a girl who has hamstered the same way so she doesn't let herself go.

forgeror · 2014-10-05T19:50:10+00:00

Things work a little different when you are looking to get laid.

Transmigratory · 2014-10-05T20:30:13+00:00

What a pussy, it was a ONS and he feels he needs to tell her. =|

the_red_scimitar · 2014-10-05T21:37:03+00:00

OP and I are on the same page, and I suspect he will mostly get disagreement for implying or saying anything that takes away from the attitude of "RP means picking up and fucking random chicks".

I get the best hate messages when I point out it is ENTIRELY about being a better man, and that the benefits do and should accrue by actually doing that, rather than by tricks. Fooling a chick into thinking you are alpha because you have some scripted tricks is actually pathetic.

WillClickOnAnything · 2014-10-06T03:05:20+00:00

Sounds like you're attempting to justify your low SMV and feel raising it is too hard. You're only a few steps from some HAES tumblerina imo.

bicepsblastingstud · 2014-10-05T15:29:34+00:00

You're taking a MGTOW position, which is fine.

TRP, however, is not about self-improvement. It is about a realistic view of sexual strategy. Stating that trying to be more attractive to women is "beta" is ludicrous.

tombreck2 · 2014-10-05T16:03:17+00:00

The sub is about sexual strategy so attracting women is going to be a focus. You were right about one thing; most people have it backwards here about improving attractivness. Do it for yourself and don't rely on women for happiness.

ShanksNes · 2014-10-05T17:08:45+00:00

Yup.. Agree with every fucking word that you wrote. Trying to be an alpha is like the most gamma thing a beta can do. But then, most of us won't be able to understand the previous sentence anyway.

Title	Don't be a girl
Author	mega_beta
Upvotes	0
Comments	20
Date	October 5, 2014 2:58 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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