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'The Fear of Being Alone Has Ruined Modern Dating' huffingtonpost is attacking MGTOW and Sandman

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Title 'The Fear of Being Alone Has Ruined Modern Dating' huffingtonpost is attacking MGTOW and Sandman
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Date June 11, 2015 5:18 PM UTC
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[–]IoSonCalaf64 points65 points66 points 11 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link

"Have you made an effort to look as good as she does?" This was my favorite line. The author just assumes that women look better than men.

[–]Chikatofuka 52 points52 points52 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The founder, known as Sandman, sits safely behind his computer screen

Shaming. 'How dare he speak about women without manginas attacking him? He's a coward'

and proclaims his bitter, indiscriminate hate towards women

No he do not. His content is pretty clean, wrong youtuber.

according to his videos I've watched. Sandman says that all women are manipulative whores and liars; he slut-shames, fat-shames, and age-shames women,

Yep, so? Freedom of speech?

and ironically complains about being single.

No, he don't. That's why you are so scared.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Sandman may complain about the lack of quality women but he doesn't complain that the women he criticize doesn't want him.

[–]ubercoolhipsterguy10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

slut-shames, fat-shames, and age-shames women, and ironically complains about being single

How dare this shitlord have standards for the women he dates instead of blindly fucking whatever desperate herpes-infected hambeast methmouth gives him the time of day.

[–]tomysotomayorfuxboys3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If he was mgtow why would he complain about being single? I thought the would mgtow thing was kind of about not wanting to have relationships with women.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first thing I laughed about was Sandman being the founder of MGTOW, although I can kind of understand since his videos dominate MGTOW searches. But him complaining about being single??? The author is an obvious troll.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points64 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely cannot stand this argument. As a male it is much more difficult to reach the desired body. If you aren't a certain height you are already at a handicap. And the process of building muscle takes a ton of effort.

For women? Just don't be fat. Think men care about nails or what brand dress you are wearing? We don't. Makeup? A little helps, but your face doesn't have to be a canvas

Of course when you only see the top 20% of men as men then you think it's easy to look good

[–]docbloodmoney24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Literally the only thing most women have to do to be fuckable is not cram food in their face like a disgusting glutton. Sadly a huge number of them can't even manage that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It just annoys me when women create their own standards and then blame men for having to live up to them. Women judge other women on makeup, clothes, shoes, purse brand, etc. Men care SIGNIFICANTLY less.

Women are judged more on looks, I get that. But that threshold of head turning attractiveness is SO MUCH easier to reach. I don't think women understand how much effort it requires to gain noticable muscle

[–]IoSonCalaf26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Women can lose weight when they're properly motivated. I've never seen anyone lose weight as fast as I have seen my female friends who want to fit into their dream wedding dress. Even my own sister dropped 40 pounds in to get into her dress.

[–]BrunoOh27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only to gain it back after the wedding and some more after the kids.

[–]newls4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

My ex had no idea about nutrition, so when I taught her about lowering her carbs and avoiding high glycemic index foods she dropped like 15lbs in a month and she said she felt better than ever.

At her workplace she became 'the weight-loss girl' among the women and they all asked her for advice. That's pretty powerful, remember that women will trust other women's advice over that of a proven and seasoned expert.

[–]IoSonCalaf5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Women cling to the belief that there's some "secret" or magic pill for weight loss and looking good. It goes back to the fact that their first instinct is to look for something or someone to do their work for them.

[–]ThrowyMcGruder2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've often been asked for fitness advice, from both men and women who want to lose weight, and the one huge difference I notice between them is this:

It's fairly easy to explain to a man that fitness is a lifestyle.

It's almost impossible with women.

The men will still sometimes quit and revert to their normal lifestyle, but they know what they should be doing. They know they're failing.

The women will readjust the whole thing.

They're just constantly looking for the magical elixir that lets them do what they're doing now, with one easy change.

The advice that I give women isn't even that hard.

I'll throw up a meal plan. One that they're often happily shocked about.

Saying things like "I can eat all that?" when I suggest a chicken breast, brown rice, and some veg, for dinner. Because their last fad-diet was "only liquids, four days a week".

I tell them to take a dedicated half-hour walk every day.

Then I throw in some relatively easy weightlifting ("But I don't want to look like a bodybuilder!"), some squats and shit, three days per week.

It's nothing.

After a month, they'll tell me that they feel great, and lost X amount of weight.

After three months it''s, "Well, I'm still walking sometimes, but I walk for, like, half an hour every day normally anyway.".

They will take the trouble to time how much walking they do when shopping and stuff and subtract it from what I told them to do.

They'll still eat the stuff I told them to eat, on occasion, but now it's just added to what they were eating before, as if the healthy food will magically cancel out the chocolate cake.

And the exercise will all go out the window except for maybe ten squats, one day per week, because "I want a nice ass!".

Then they regain the weight, consider me a failure for not getting them thin, and move onto some new regime sponsored by some ageing famous woman.

Readjust that, rinse, repeat.

[–]kanji_sasahara-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women cling to the belief that there's some "secret" or magic pill Weak people cling to the belief

[–]Myrpl4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I suffer from irritable bowel and gastrointestinal reflux and I'm (still) trying to find a way to cover my required calories intake without folding in pain every night.

When women check me on the street, they don't give a fuck for my condition. Are you thin? You're disqualified. Simple as that.

[+]1Claude_Reborn-18 points-17 points-16 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely cannot stand this argument. As a male it is much more difficult to reach the desired body. If you aren't a certain height you are already at a handicap. And the process of building muscle takes a ton of effort.

Fat guy detected.

Go and start with Strongifts and you'll see improvement in a very short time provided you eat right and stick to it.

I have been on SL for about 2 months and I am already seeing changes. I have the beginnings of arm and forearm definition, and already my jeans are feeling lose to the point I am punching extra holes in my belt. I have also lost all the weight in my face, that was the first thing to change.

Yeah, tall guys have it better in some respects but you can't change height. You can change everything else though.

Get in there and start lifting.

[–]TimeHoTraveler34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You've been lifting 2 goddamn months and you're telling other men "Fat guy detected."

Shut the fuck up and worry about yourself.

[+]1Claude_Reborn-16 points-15 points-14 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not the one making excuses.

As a male it is much more difficult to reach the desired body.

If Chris Pratt can go from morbidly obese to This in less than a year then anyone can.

I lifted 3x this week.. have you ?

[–]TimeHoTraveler15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been lifting for years I don't need to talk about how much I go to the gym, my physique speaks for itself.

And what he said isn't an excuse it's fact. You are a skinny DYEL and you're trying to talk down on people that are more knowledgeable and more impressive looking than you.

[–]1APookIsAPook3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More than likely Chris Pratt already had existing muscle under his fat. You don't go from super skinny to that physique in a year.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fat guy? lol try tall and lean. When lifting there is serious muscle definition but afterwards not so much.

What hurts me is diet. When lifting i would eat 3k+ calories to gain weight but hated the fact that fat came in with muscle. So now I'm just doing a slow but cleaner bulk and am fine with it.

The only reason I criticized the desired body aspect is because I understand how difficult it is to reach that level. Being thin is easy. Being muscular? Not so much

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon37 points38 points39 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Have you made an effort to look as good as she does?

I'm pretty sure she can put her makeup on faster than I can spend three years in the gym.

Neglecting the fact that women HATE men who have put as much effort into getting ready as they have.

[–]IoSonCalaf31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is so true. Women don't like men who look like they actively try to make themselves look more attractive. That's not to say they want unattractive or out of shape men. They want their men to look "effortlessly handsome". Handsome without effort.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Handsome without effort.

Oh yes. Men's makeup, lifting heels, pec implants, calf implants, fake anything... all universally derided by women. Showered, reasonably well groomed, nice clothes - that's your lot.

Women's makeup, implants, corsets, push-this, pull-that, foundation, liposuctions, blah blah blah... all totally fine and acceptable. Or worse - something that the patriarchy is making her do, in order to realise her entitled birthright of betabux marriage to a high value male.

Of course this can be turned to our advantage to subtlely neg at her value. "You're beautiful without your makeup... just not hot".

[–]Andress113 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They can want whatever the fuck they think of.The problem is that you give them.

Look at Ukraine:gorgeous women with mediocre men.Thats because men dont give any flying fucks for women and there is no beta male culture so they won.Too bad men in the west are fucking morons who chase even the nastiest pussy.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those are some damn desperate women over there.

[–]yaardi1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look at Ukraine:gorgeous women with mediocre men.Thats because men dont give any flying fucks for women and there is no beta male culture so they won.

I disagree. You only deem the men mediocre because they're poor compared to Western Europe. Also BP is just as spread in Eastern Europe as in the West.

[–]darkrood0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought Ukraine have a women outnumbering men situation going on.

in other world, pussy is oversupplied over there.

[–]kanji_sasahara3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Law 30: Make Your Accomplishments Seem Effortless

[–]mrmeyhemn23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

yeah, coming from ms. manface mcpudgeington, thats rich. http://www.miguelitoslittlegreencar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Miguelitos-Little-Green-Car-6311.jpg

i haven't looked into her much but with stories like "why much older men make better "partners"" (see: beta providers) and no mention of her marital life i can only speculate that she is either a post wall single mom or a post wall future spinster, unless she can find a chad to impregnate her and an older man to bb for her.

edit: i admit that i didn't read the "older men make better partners" story. maybe she has found a beta bux to cuckold, who knows. with manface like that though? i kind of doubt it.

ok i skimmed it, she likes em old enough to not be able to get a hardon but still young enough to spend spend spend!

[–]IoSonCalaf22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The wall she hit was obviously brick.

[–]mrmeyhemn18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

the only reason she wrote this story is because shes post wall but still needs a man. shes probably having trouble finding a bb mate and these mgtow guys just hit her with the hard truth. that men her age know shes been cc riding for a very long time and not willing to invest in a ragged out model when their money can attract a younger, better looking, not so stretched out model. this is all about her feeeeeelz

[–]IoSonCalaf14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And it's all men's fault because some men decide not to put up with women's bs anymore. How dare they not put up with bitchy, impossible women!

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm her age, and no fucking way would that skank get a shot. Only one my age has had more than a pump n dump, and it's because she is seriously fun. Most of these old bitches aren't fun, they're demanding, delusional about their looks and value, and try to make it seem like I'm lucky they talk to me. When the 20s girls stop trying to fuck me, I'll care more.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How old are you?

Have you not noticed any dip in the amount of 20ish year olds? I'm almost 30 and haven't noticed any dip, but I'm curious about how reasonable that trend will be going forward.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Mid 40s, and it's constant with the young ones. If you're not lifting, start now, it makes a big difference at my age.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I started lifting shortly after discovering TRP until I got injured and did it religiously. Going to pick it up again within the next month or two as soon as I'm able.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have lots of mass, too much actually since I can't reach most of my back. But damn do the girls notice, it's the difference between being the creepy dad guy and having young girls stare at you like a piece of meat they want to fuck.

[–]failureToSend0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so true - I've found most women past or close to the age of 35 incredibly difficult to spend any time with - usually not attractive, have nothing interesting or say or talk about, and easily explode over the smallest little detail - they've spent a lifetime getting everything they want simply because they have a vagina rather then cultivate their personality, build relationships, and develop real interests.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can see her being hot back in her 20s, but it seems like she conveniently lost the address to the gym and whole foods store when she get into her 30s.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's her thyroid, shitlord. And the cake/ milkshake diet didn't quite pan out. Despite her best research.

[–]Assassin14766 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Should have answered "Nope, I'm better than this bitch in all aspects of life. I don't have to be better looking."

[–]1sardinemanR8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't even make any sense. This is usual female projection because they think what they want is also what a man would want from them.

I'm not looking for someone that looks like me. I am muscular, hairy and a decent height. I have masculine traits and tendencies. I know I have to make my own money and nobody will support me either, so I don't need someone with my job or to compete with me on that front.

What I'm looking for is a woman, long hair where I have short hair, shaved smooth arms and legs where I have body hair, shorter where I'm taller, femininity to my masculinity.

If I wanted someone that "looked as good as me" I would be gay. I would have no choice but to look for a man because otherwise I don't have a direct comparison to my own traits.

And it's also true for women, they are not looking for femininity in women, they don't want effeminate men. No amount of feminist social programming is going to change those gender roles and desires, it can change how realistically they occur, but it won't change the desires of the sexes.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Amount of work required to look good.

[–]1APookIsAPook0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, the average guy does even less for his appearance than the average girl looks wise.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points50 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

1.People who are afraid to be alone are ruining dating.

2.???

3.It's the fault of men who don't care about being alone.

I think the Hamster wheel spun so fast on this one that the axle snapped and the wheel ran over some stray dogs down the street.

[–]ubercoolhipsterguy8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get your logic out of the way of my feels

[–]Larrea_tridentata3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't remember the last time I read an article like this that properly backed up it's own thesis statement. I know HuffPo is the journalism equivalent to kindergarten, but these people get paid for this?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't care about being alone, because that way I don't have to support some chick while she waits to branch swing.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He told me horror stories of his and his friend's attempts to strike up conversations with women, often received with rudeness, humiliating responses, and in one case, a blood-splattering punch to the jaw.

The HuffPo editors actually allowed that information to be read? I'm heading outside to check for pigs in the sky.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The HuffPo editors actually allowed that information to be read? I

Oh yes. And it's justified further down under the pressures that the poor wimminz have to feelz from sozcety.

[–]FortunateBum29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is not natural, it is learned.

The ironic thing about this argument is that it says women have chosen to be "beautiful" and subsequently chosen to act bitchy.

If a woman didn't want to be a bitch, she could not wear makeup, dress down, and then just be a nice person. According to this argument, she's chosen to be a bitch. You have to ask why a woman would choose that. Once you've answered that question, you have to ask why all men aren't MGTOW.

In other words, you've got 90% of the female population who've chosen a life of outright sadism, and people wonder where MGTOW comes from?

If society eased up on its pressure for people to couple, I don't think we'd be having this conversation. This social expectation keeps people frustrated and unhappy, so why do we allow it? If we ditch the idea and free ourselves from the pressure, maybe there will be fewer pickup artists, less gender violence, and fewer frustrated single men.

Oh, you mean like MGTOW?

I don't even know what to think anymore. People talking in circles within circles within circles. It's like people just write propaganda to write propaganda. It's propagandas all the way down.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman who doesn't understand what she wants, telling you why what you want is bad, because she wants it for you, too. Around and around and around. Like a hamster on a wheel.

[–]1wakethfkupneo21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rightful shiny knights will never learn there's no bad publicity. The more they send people to clever guys like Sandman, the more people will be outraged and/or intrigued, then discuss with others, which then also get intrigued and on and on.

Meanwhile on Google Trends: http://i.imgur.com/xQa44O9.png

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article is full of "men are wrong" as well as "women are only like this because society".

MTGOW? Wrong and "vile" in her words.

Women? That's all hamstered away under "Women's social pressures".

[–]Electric_Romeo17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

The founder, known as Sandman

I didn't know we voted Sandman the MGTOW president. He is a person expressing his views and you may or may not share his views.

sits safely behind his computer screen and proclaims his bitter, indiscriminate hate towards women, according to his videos I've watched. Sandman says that all women are manipulative whores and liars; he slut-shames, fat-shames, and age-shames women

Ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem. If Sandman was so terrible then finding an example of this despicable behaviour of his cannot be so hard, yet she provides none. Go try and prove Sandman wrong; you'll find out that Sandman is right 95% of the time....

[–]justarandomff7fan0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What does this sandman look like? Is he really in hiding cause I couldn't find a pic of him anywhere.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If you were sandman, would you put your picture out there, only to be doxxed and lose real life clients? There is nothing to gain by putting your image out there for any mgtow content producer. As if the sjw mob would stop at anything.

In the end it is all about ideas, so why is an identity needed to prove your ideas right?

[–]justarandomff7fan0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yea, I agree that there could be a lot of bad things that could happen from sjw backlash, and not being pc is bad for business. But it does make the movement seem a bit shady that we could only go about talking about this in secret .I can't think of many positive movements that had to hide their identities and that seems to be the part that bothers me about this .We are telling each other to be strong independent men but seemingly have to do it in hiding like cowards. Ironic I guess.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If your employer knew, that you were contributing towards a misogynistic, racist, homophobic, xenophobic subreddit, woud this shed you in a good or a bad light?

[–]justarandomff7fan0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mgtow is none of those things. I can't speak for everyone's actions or opinions on how they handle their own personal situations with foreigners, women or people of different races but seeking personal strength and integrity should not be something that's vilified.

[–]aptway46 points47 points48 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first comment destroys the article- well played, sir:

It's important to consider perspective here. Men may not consider the tricky social position women find themselves in: we're the targets of constant male attention, desire, and sometimes aggression."

Maybe it is time for women to consider the tricky social position MEN find themselves in: expected to make the first move, but unless they happen to look like Brad Pitt or George Clooney or drive a Porsche, it can be downright dangerous for a man to try and pick up a woman without being charged with sexual harassment - because let's face it ladies: IT AIN’T EASY approaching someone when you DON'T look like Brad Pitt or George Clooney and are NOT driving a Porsche. Ah, you’re the “targets of constant male attention and desire ” … but then when you wear skimpy skirts and plunging necklines, if the guy stares he might find himself in jail or socially humiliated by some harridan yelling at him for “being sexist and staring at my body” And if it is in the office and he dares actually to say “That’s a nice blouse” that the woman spent a week finding to make sure it would show her off to perfection… well, when the man notices and says so – he might find himself in trouble with HR or with the boss. And why? Because he isn’t Brad Pitt or George Clooney. Because if he WERE one of these guys - at the office, on the street, at the swimming pool – the ladies would be only too happy to be noticed. Approached. Stared at and talked to.

It is the ordinary schmuck with ordinary looks and an ordinary haircut and an ordinary bank account that bloody well better be careful of what he says, and when and to whom.

Because in the end, it is ALWAYS the male who is at fault, right?

Like the writer says: PERSPECTIVE. How come so few women have any?

I’ve got a great suggestion. As of today, NO man is ever to approach a lady or try and pick her up. HE has to wait to be noticed, and HE is the one who gets to be wined and dined at HER expense. Then at least she can no longer complain that “He got me drunk…”

Then the women will only get the attention of those they WANT it from.

Problem solved.

Except that it isn’t, because women will still want all the advantages without any of the disadvantages. They want perfection for themselves, and if the guys aren’t happy, well, who cares?

Like I said… perspective.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She has nothing to offer a man so the only thing left for her to do is attack men.

[–]Kill_Your_Ego5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the Greek play about feminism, Lysistrata, they just force the hot men to sex it up with all the women. Starting with the ugliest. The other men are kept as slaves. So that's basically what these feelings-based lunatics ultimately desire.

[–]beachbloke34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ITT, Woman admits all women do messed up stuff to men, blames it on men. That's some hamstering right there.

[–]tomysotomayorfuxboys16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We're not bragging, but we know that men will always want us and we usually have the choice whether to couple or not, especially if we're good-looking.

This is true, but looks fade with age, and when looks fade the pickings of men will get much slimmer.

This, and the influence of media that seems to reward and normalize bitch behaviour can create legions of women who say, Yeah, I'm all that, and you have to work for it.

There are tons of women who have nothing to offer but demand everything. I wonder how they'll feel when they're old and men don't want them anymore? Its not like they're bringing anything to the table besides their looks.

[–]kanji_sasahara12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

besides their looks besides their vagina

[–]beware_the_syllogism0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too many men don't want them but they go along with it anyway and before you know it no sex, kids, fat wife, bank account is drained, and a divorce looming over their heads.

[–]CoriolanusRevisited6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The only truth she said overtly is that nightclub cold approaching in your 40s is a losing proposition, gents

[–]Electric_Romeo15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say that looking for LTR material in nightclubs is even a worse proposition.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I've been on day game since my teens, I've pulled two girls, out of more than a hundred, in a bar or club. Two in 30 fucking years.

[–]iamaguythrowaway0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really? The stuff that pickup artists show are not real?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't know, I've learned through trial and error to not bother in clubs/bars. I am at a disadvantage in a bar or club, height is a big one for me since I am 5'8, second she can't hear my voice in it's natural deep gravely state. Then you have the competition with tall guys, who even if my game is awesome (which it is) due to my stature I'm nearly invisible to girls in meat markets because they are all focused on the tall guys. It's just how it is for me.

I succeed in day game because I have game, I'm not bad looking, lots of muscle, but she is at a disadvantage compared to in a bar/club.

The other side of it is nearly every time I go to a bar/club, I get some drunk ass skinny white kid who tries to act tough and impress his buddies. I'm not going to jail because some 140lb kid thinks he is Chuck Norris or some shit, and he finds out the hard way that he isn't. More often than not, I get that shit, and it's annoying.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you have going for you? Have you made an effort to look as good as she does? What could you improve?

Bitch please. You don't want to play the "who has invested more time into their personal development" game with me.

[–]AmazingAndy0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it seems strange to excuse female behavior because its learned, whist attacking male behavior which is also learned as a consequence of female behavior?

[–]8n0n0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting how her chosen platform to attack someone else for comments from 'safely behind his computer screen' is sourced safely behind "her" computer screen.

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