America's jobless men: Decline of the working man. All time low of US men aged 25-54 are in the workforce...20% are not working

jokersmild · 2014-02-07T04:18:04+00:00

I'm feeling this. Me and about five friends are out of work and out of places to apply at. I wish there was some kind of historical reference about what happens when a bunch young men are out of work and don't have anything meaningful to fill their days.

Update... Went into the local Waffle House looking to score a grill job last night. Met the manager at 5a. He told me not to turn in the application and hand him a resume instead. Told me on the spot that I would be going through manager training. Hired me on the spot to be a manager. I feel like I won the lotery!!

IllimitableMan · 2014-02-07T03:44:36+00:00

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2014-02-07T07:50:09+00:00

What's the point of having a career when you've stripped all the benefits? I'm good with the shitty bullshit job I got since I pay my bills and have a decent amount of money to buy weed, video games and all that other shit I like.

Suck my dick America.

otiswild · 2014-02-07T04:12:33+00:00

Enjoy the motherfucking decline!!

watersign · 2014-02-07T01:38:05+00:00

Umm...what these articles fail to mention is that most college degrees don't lead to employment either. Men drop out because they realize what a waste of time and money it is

watersign · 2014-02-07T00:50:53+00:00

While unemployment is around 7% - men aged 25 to 54 are 20% out of work. This number kind of shocked me. The story talks about many potential reasons "why" this is happening, and many are realistic: prison, manufacturing jobs going over seas, more women in the workforce, etc. But it doesn't talk about is an interesting correlation to Red Pill Theory that some men are dropping out of the work force ON PURPOSE. They don't have to work hard any longer to support a family. Society's incentive for men to bust their ass has been taken away, and I bet this number will only go up over time if we stay on the current trajectory. Your thoughts?

radicaIcentrist · 2014-02-07T02:41:01+00:00

feminist lobbying made it worse out of blind zealotry. you never hear about the idiotic, destructive things that feminist lobbying sneaks into policy. the democratic party knows that female voting, the core of their voting bloc, is lead by their noses by big feminism, so they have to cave to feminist lobbying. i proudly stand by my useless vote for the green party.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/09/did_feminist_groups_derail_the_stimulus_bill.html

heist_of_saint_graft · 2014-02-07T01:50:35+00:00

There are vanishingly few incentives for men to play by the rules anymore.

Corporatism ensured that nobody has the "40 years and a gold watch" path anymore, and that a huge swath of male jobs would be shipped overseas to save bucks for the robber-barons.

The church is utterly irrelevant. No doctrine that is three Google searches away from being proved false can hope to gain traction anymore. And the church has abnegated its role in social good. Instead of helping poor families who are being put out of their houses, they're still trying to convince us that the earth is 6,000 years old and that homos shouldn't have weddings.

That leaves marriage and family. Since we're on TRP, I needn't elaborate how that has been gutted.

I can't see an endgame here. Enjoy the collapse, fellas.

alex-zheng · 2014-02-07T06:55:21+00:00

I'm a petroleum engineering degree holder. If I were a petroleum engineer, I could expect to make close to 100k in my first year out of college. My internship with Chevron had me paid at an annualized rate of over 60k, and I was only in my second year of college at the time.

Ask me what I do and I will tell you, but it doesn't pay.

pontifx · 2014-02-07T07:28:05+00:00

The aftermath of rewarding speculation and exploitation over effort and consistency.

JohnEngland · 2014-02-07T15:16:13+00:00

This is Technological Unemployment.

People who talk about getting a STEM degree are missing the point, the majority of Scientists have a massive amount of difficulty finding work (even PHD's) because there is a surplus, and engineering has a 5 year half life, it's easy for a graduate to find work but experienced engineers have problems. (nor is it possible for EVERY experienced engineer to move into management).

http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth

In recent years we have experienced more technological innovation than ever before. Over the last 10 years entire industries which had been outsourced to third world countries for cheaper labour have now been returned to western countries, because even cheap labour cannot compete with automated factories.

There are not enough jobs for every unemployed person, that situation will only get worse. Unless you want to create 'make work' where people are paid for completing worthless tasks you need to accept that full employment is not possible and the situation will only get worse in the future.

Google is introducing a self driving car. When perfected this will make every driver in the country unemployed.

IBM is introducing a software system that can answer phone calls and speak naturally. When perfected this will make every call centre operator in the country unemployed.

Robots which cook and serve fast food are being developed, when perfected this will make every fast food worker in the country unemployed.

It's not just low skilled working class jobs either, many lawyers, medical specialists, accountants and other middle class jobs will be automated by advanced computer programs.

Before the 1980's increases in production and efficiency always led to improved wealth and wages for the working and middle classes, this did not occurred during the present tech boom, in fact we are experiencing a 'hollowing of the middle class' because many middle class jobs are being replaced by computers or robotics.

The increased wealth that has been created has all gone to a small class of rich elites. That means society is stratifying into a world of the super rich who own everything, the small group of highly educated STEM and creative workers (which is much smaller than the old middle class) and the poor.

If anyone is interested in the issue I seriously recommend looking at a book called 'The Lights in the Tunnel: Automation, Accelerating Technology and the Economy of the Future' by Martin Ford.

SgtBrutalisk · 2014-02-07T08:20:32+00:00

White House: It's A Good Thing That Obamacare Will Drive 2.5 Million Americans Out Of The Workforce

It's not that some unknown combination of factors is causing this, it's the actual strategy by the people running the show.

itwasntme19 · 2014-02-07T07:52:53+00:00

real unemployment rate is more like 18-20% this are people in their prime in terms of labor. machines are replacing people making things worse. tech has been big the last few year but produces very few jobs and it only turns a guy or two into billionaires. and those working are taxed out and inflation is eroding purchasing power. college is a waste of your time. drop out now,forget your mortgage, declare bankruptcy and go your own way

PrisonerOfLife · 2014-02-07T06:33:48+00:00

People are unemployed after college because they pursue their so-called "passions" instead of what the market demands. Female entitlement drives this because women believe the market should provide them with a competitive job instead of examining fields with growth potential and demand and pursuing those instead.

autowikibot · 2014-02-07T00:54:50+00:00

I think it's more the repeat of policies that led up to the 1920s depression. We're repeating history almost to a T, and this is the result of such policies on the workforce.

rebuildingMyself · 2014-02-08T05:51:32+00:00

Makes you wonder how many good male doctors aren't doctors because they got affirmative actioned out of a spot that went to a woman that took her expensive eduction and quit 5 years later to have babies.

GerhardtDH · 2014-02-07T07:01:23+00:00

Turning 25 soon! Yay! I get to join this god damned club. It seems that very few people don't care that I put in consistent work at low skill jobs and always try to learn about other departments at work so I know whats going on. I'm 'useless' because I don't have a degree. It's hard to get a degree when you make a 'useless' amount of money and your saving get chomped by car payments because your shitty car needs repair. Now you're even shittier, because you're not spending your money on education.

Apparently it doesn't matter that I've been late for a total of 10 minutes in the 10 year's I've been in the work force. It doesn't matter that I stay an extra hour to make sure the children's shoe section is perfectly organized at the end of the day, every shoe tagged so they won't get stolen, instead of shoving all the lost shoes to the back of the shelf and covering it with empty boxes so the manager walks by and thinks your fast and efficient. Ditto for the women's dress shoe section. I mean come on, the expensive section is where you're going to get the most profit from.

EDIT: Also, don't get the flu (probably from the mass amount of people you interact with at shitty jobs) and thus need to call out for five working days. You might get demoted, then not get any letters of recommendation because you're "probably some unionist." Not like you could ever prove that your boss said that you.

drallcom3 · 2014-02-07T03:45:25+00:00

Don't worry, the jobs are slowly coming back. Labour starts getting cheaper in the USA than in China.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-02-07T04:21:42+00:00

Um because OBAMACARE. Down vote to hell all you want, but I sell health insurance for a living and I see it on the front lines. Men are working less hours to qualify for bigger healthcare subsidies. Period.

grimelines · 2014-02-07T08:01:35+00:00

You all have hilariously low and archaic understanding of school and the job market.

STEM OR DIE is retarded.

Liberal Arts degrees CAN be useful.

skekze · 2014-02-07T01:21:50+00:00

bootstraps, blah blah blah

Title	America's jobless men: Decline of the working man. All time low of US men aged 25-54 are in the workforce...20% are not working
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