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More proof that the dark triad works

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October 20, 2013
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Title More proof that the dark triad works
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Upvotes 35
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Date October 20, 2013 9:20 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So, they asked self-serving narcissists a question that could be answered in such a way as to make themselves seem "better" than they are? Did they expect a straight answer at all? If you ask someone with tendencies to lie how many sexual partners he has had, the answer is going to be exaggerated. wow science wow

[–]love2fap 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

while i agree this is a biased study sample, they surely do exaggerate the truth from these types of subjects, it probably still serves the same point. ill disregard the psychopath trait, but the others increase SMV

[–]_DiscoNinja_ 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How the fuck are you gonna ask a deceitful, narcissistic psychopath questions about his sexual history and call the results solid science?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was an odd sample size, too. You don't usually get 10 ex-presidents of the USA and 98 movie stars in a survey.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also see: The thousands of women who fall in love with Death Row inmates, especially the serial killers and wife murderers.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]WheelbugScaphism 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Liquor anaesthetizes the parts of your brain that are associated with emotion among other things. There might actually be something to that.

[–]TRPACC 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not gender specific. It works for both men and women with certain personality disorders - they can charm, deceive and get away with treating people like shit and have them keep coming back for more of the addictive excitement and good sex.

[–]cagethepepper 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link

Very well. How do we become dark triad?

[–]TheeRyanGrey 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Becoming the dark triad is all about literally doing whatever makes you happy and not worrying about the consequences or how it affects others.

Lie if you need to. Cheat if you need to. Wanna blow smoke in someone's face? Do it.

Live your life solely for you with complete disregard to the well being of others.

[–]jelloba 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My problem is that making other people happy is often something that makes me happy. I worry too much if I do something that may negatively affect my relationship with someone.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Listen, there's nothing wrong with being a decent, even nice person.

But you gotta stop being such a bitch about it. I love giving gifts on Christmas and seeing people's faces, but I don't give a fuck if they dislike the gift. I buy what I think they'll like and if they don't fuck em.

You need to learn, before the dark triad, outcome independence. You need to learn to not let other people's outcomes affect yours. For instance:

You're on a date with a girl. You want to make her happy. You give her your time, your energy, your best jokes, and probably your money. You've given her EVERYTHING. What you want is sex. You seem like the kind of guy who worries that trying to have sex will her will make her leave.

That's the kind of thinking that makes women leave. No woman wants a man who is dependent on her for happiness. She wants to be APART of your happiness, to bask and share in it.

[–]jelloba 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good advice.

[–]MockingDead 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

That's a tall wall to climb, I am finding. Indoctrination. It's a hell of a drug.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

It takes years and years to indoctrinate men into being selfless and feminine; it takes one good fuck to turn it around

[–]1browndelicious 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

I think it takes a bit more than a good fuck. I've had several since becoming more self obsessed and self driven, but occasionally I can find myself getting too fixated on one or other particular woman.

It's a journey letting go of the blue pill mentality that was so heavily ingrained. It would be smart to not expect that sort of thing overnight.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

if you find a bad bitch, like, a girl who cooks, cleans, fucks you in all the nasty ways you ever dreamed of, and keeps herself in shape, feel free to date her.

i'm all about long term relatonships

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

What I find is the right girl will fall into that frame if you can keep yourself dominant enough in just the right ways.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

or that.

but i'm not a girl, i'm not trying to mold or shape anyone completely. i want her to bring some shit to the table.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Like kids, eating disorders, substance abuse, laziness, and hypergammy? Oh yeah, they bring something to the table all right.

Enjoy them when they are young, when they get older they are about as useful as a bag of dead cats.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

see this is what bothers me about the manosphere.

i love bitches. i love em. i know they're different than us and their hormonal makeup creates an emotional state that is beyond frustrating.

some of you guys sound like angry dudes who've been dumped one too many times and aren't here to learn, just find ways to punish women for not liking you.

i aint bout that life.

[–]vengefully_yours1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So go out there and see first hand what women are like. Its not bitterness, not anger, not being dumped one too many times. Its simply how they are. You love hot young bitches, the few attractive ones out there, but there are far more of them like I described, and most of them still think they are entitled to someone better than you.

Women at best are superficial, lazy and delusional.

[–]TheeRyanGrey0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you allow people do be superficial, lazy, and delusional than they will be. If women fucked me when i was fat, lazy, and jobless then I'd never workout or get a job.

The difference is women know when to turn scrubs down, while men are always trying to fuck useless bitches. If you want better women then stop rewarding the shitty ones with your time and effort.

[–]vengefully_yours1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You are apparently rather young. No offense, I was once as well, and I idealized humanity to some extent. It does not matter how awesome or high class someone appears to be, inside they are the same as everyone else. The value or class is superficial bullshit, because people are cunts. Some are more valuable than others, and they are in the vast minority and they do not have value with everyone.

Shitty people do not get my time, worthless bitches do not either. The problem is finding women, and men for that matter, who are worthy of my time. I am nobody special, no high status, not rich or powerful, but my time on this planet is finite and I refuse to waste it on worthless cunts. It just happens that most of the population of the world is self absorbed, deluded, unaware, and want desperately to fit in yet find a way to somehow be superior to everyone else.

I see people for what they are. I dont often like what I see. Call me jaded or cynical if you wish, I simply see life as it is. The few people I let in my inner circle have earned it over decades of friendship and loyalty. I have only one female friend like that out of nearly 3000 females I have met, worked with, or fucked in my lifetime. Seven males, one female. Sometimes I wish I was gay.

[–]TheeRyanGrey0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

"because your opinion disagrees with my own, i'm going to create a reality where i can diminish you and thus your opinion"

this is a female tactic, son, and i'm a pro at bitch talk. come correct or don't come at all.

[–]vengefully_yours0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

My reality is obviously different from yours. Life experience varies, and a harsh life with far too many near death experiences and loss will change who you are forever.

Your opinion and experience is valid, but as you get older and endure more bullshit, it will probably change. Honestly, I dont want anyone to have a life like mine, and I hope you dont have to endure what I have. It is sad that I have become this cynical with such a low opinion of humanity, but that is what I have been shown countless times, by people from different cultures.

I am not saying I am better than you, simply that we are different and I would rather you not become like me. What I have learned in my life is the only person I can count on, depend upon at any time, who actually cares about me, is myself. Everyone else wants to take from me, women want to get it without earning it.

You get this way through systematic abuse, surviving two wars, losing friends in those conflicts, and discovering you are very different from most people because of your experiences. Nobody should have a life like this, but people are cunts. There are no rose colored glasses here, only reality in its cold unflinching harshness.

[–]TheeRyanGrey1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

people are what you make of them. i've met all kinds of terrible people and i just ignore them so they don't leave a mark.

most people remember the negative things more easily than the positive ones and i can't fathom that kind of existence.

[–]vengefully_yours0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I remember and reward the good things from others. I learn from the bad shit people do and avoid those kinds of people in the future. If I sat around dwelling on the past I would shoot myself because of how horrible people can be. Instead I simply learn from it and keep moving towards making my time here better.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Women want to find a strong frame and fit in it. I've inadvertently turned a sexist feminist wannabe into a submissive woman in college (didn't know what I was doing but I was big into MRA stuff back then so at least alphaed up about those kinds of topics).

[–]TheeRyanGrey -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

i've never, and i can't state this strongly enough, EVER met a more filthy, self loathing, completely lacking self respect whore than feminist women.

they claim they hate sexist pigs like me, but the more inferior i treated them, the more i degraded them, the more they'd beg for more. a feminist named julie was the first girl to ever take me past my line and force me to stop.

[–]cocktails42 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

/r/thatHappened

[–]TheeRyanGrey1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

can't state this enough:

harboring the delusion that because you are apart if a group and can't do something, in this case have sex, live a normal life with twists and turns, that no one else in said group can is a sad and pathetic way to live.

its rooted in jealousy and I prefer to leave that to female social circles.

[–]cocktails41 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

that because you are apart if a group and can't do something, in this case have sex, live a normal life with twists and turns

Ah, the perennial retort of "you're not getting laid" used by those skilled in the art of projection.

But, have fun writing your RP fanfic.

[–]TheeRyanGrey1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

who else other than a man not enjoying his life would reply to a fun, information sharing topic with such jealousy?

[–]DAEHateRatheism1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

TIL that not believing your story = jealousy.

[–]TheeRyanGrey1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What other reason would you have to not believe a very common story?

[–]cocktails41 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you're having sex with someone you consider to be a "filthy, self loathing, completely lacking self respect whore" and think to yourself "this is fun," then you really should seek professional help.

The less sociopathic amongst us (i.e. most of the world's population) have no problem having sex with people that we don't despise. And without needing to learn a "strategy."

Jealousy is not something I have once felt browsing /r/TheRedPill. (Plus, it would be envy, not jealousy.) It's more of a bewildered confusion that a group of people such as yourself actually exist. I feel like Jane Goodall observing a group of very sexually frustrated gorillas. Sadly, my bemusement often turns into simmering anger because I know that you human cancers aren't just inhabiting Reddit but from time to time venture out into the world to spew your vile shit at unsuspecting women.

[–]TheeRyanGrey1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Seek help for liking crazy sex?

what kind of world do we live in

[–]cocktails40 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're talking to someone well-ingrained in the kink world. Crazy sex isn't the problem. You being a sociopath is the problem.

[–]TheeRyanGrey2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

keyboard psychologist+misogynist

this is a whole new level of fun. where do they make you guys?

[–]WheelbugScaphism1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Liberal arts college.

[–]TheeRyanGrey1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

best reply of all time

[–]WheelbugScaphism1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You sound mad.

[–]cocktails41 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The Red Sox are up by one. I couldn't be happier.

[–]birdbrainiac 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

From a female point of view...go ahead and do this, but then when you find a woman you want to keep, let her 'fix' you, and turn you into a nice guy again. Women, for reasons i don't understand either, want to be the one to turn the bad boy good. Just don't be too obvious about it. Occasionally 'slip up' and fall back into the bad boy ways, but not to the point you screw up a good thing.

Or i'm just as manipulative as the dark triad types, i dunno....i just found thiis sub, it's interesting.

[–]WheelbugScaphism 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why worry about one good thing when we can have ten on the stringer?

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In reality you have to be born with it. Sociopaths have literally different brains than regular people.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't the difference between psychopathy and sociopathy that the former is more dark and you're born with it and the latter is less dark and it's made?

[–]magicalbird0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You can train yourself to be more selfish and deluded in confidence; Not quite the sociopath level but more than before compared to your old self.

[–]magicalbird3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/why-are-men-with-dark-triad-personalities-so-irresistible-to-women/

Psychopathy is a measure of fearlessness, narcissism is a measure of confidence, and manipulation is a measure of how much fun you are via flirting, leading conversation to sex, charm

Fearlessness, confidence, and game means women tingling

[–]cagethepepper 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Is that not weird though? I'm talking from an evolutionary point of view. Would it not make more sense to cling on to a man who is strong yet will stick around for the kids than...you know, a Death Row inmate? Why is it attractive to women?

[–]Pharmakoza 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You could say that women are wired to have kids with multiple men. On the rare chance that they get to be with a high-value and manipulative man, they will. Afterwards, they go back to the men they know will stick around. This way all their eggs aren't in one basket.

[–]DavidTIntellectual 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Would it not make more sense to cling on to a man who is strong yet will stick around for the kids

That's assuming that human males are evolutionarily intended for child rearing. There are plenty of mammals where the male acts as nothing more than a sperm donor... cows, sheep, many birds. Who's to say humans aren't the same and males being required to help raise children isn't a societal construct?

[–]cagethepepper 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...Man, I need a drink.

[–]Pharmakoza -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A society of women probably couldn't feed and protect a family so I highly doubt it is a societal construct.

[–]magicalbird3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

From a dark triad male it is successful because you spread your own seed as much as possible

From a female perspective you would want to have the most advantageous genes for survival

[–]nathanisfat 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not weird. Hardship helps create dark triad-types and being insensitive to hardship is very valuable when there's incredible hardship. We've only really had reliable food and shelter and shit for large portions of the population for the last few generations so the desire for dark triad types hasn't been bred out of people much yet.

[–]YessingtoHard 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alpha fucks beta bucks, that way they get the best of both

[–]WheelbugScaphism 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hybristophilia

[–]nathanisfat 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unlucky genetics and a brutal early childhood, typically. You can sort of mimic it, but trying to fake it during real hardship can fuck up normal, healthy people--think PTSD and dissociative disorders--because they have to actively fight the emotional impulses dark triad types don't really have. If you're just pretending, make sure you're also building a support network of trustworthy friends to help you deal with the shit that comes up in your life.

[–]5F42DE47BC 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't. You're born that way or you're not.

[–]seanjohn12117 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

While I have no doubt that dark triad is very successful with women, it doesn't seem worth it to me. I don't think it's worth becoming a sociopath just to get with girls.

[–]magicalbird2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Get with enough girls to fulfill sexual needs: one decent girl or a few flings

[–]BalllsackTBaghard 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can't become a sociopath, but you can pretend to be one.

[–]cocktails40 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm curious, what is the difference between a sociopath and someone who just does all of the things a sociopath commonly does so that they can get laid?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No worries, when you are old enough and have been fucked over by enough of these women you feel so kindly towards, it will change. You will see them for what they really are.

[–]mister_zd 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Seconded, the more I age, the more bitter I get, the more likely I am to dark triad. It comes natural with experience...

I still find it sad that things have to be this way, but one has to do what works.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not really bitter towards women, but I axm towards feminism. Women who follow the feminist bullshit sadden me, because they are fucking up their own lives. I learned not to trust them, not to love or care about them, because they are incapable of such things. It doesn't get better as they get older either, they just get more desperate, deluded, and still think they should have a 25 yr old underwear model when they are a hambeast.

[–]Hyperian 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Genghis Khan is the leader of the dark traid

[–]isthatyourdaughter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Is that not weird though? I'm talking from an evolutionary point of view. Would it not make more sense to cling on to a man who is strong yet will stick around for the kids"

The alpha fucks the women in the bushes, the women in the group raise the kids. The alpha goes back to leading the hunts.

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