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"All men are rapists" posters in Canada

Hectorgonzales

July 11, 2013
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Title "All men are rapists" posters in Canada
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Hectorgonzales

Upvotes 83
Comments 54
Date July 11, 2013 3:54 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
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[–]Endorsed ContributorSarcasticus 52 points53 points54 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If a woman gets drunk and drives a car, she's held responsible for her actions. If a man gets drunk and drives a car, he's held responsible for his actions.

If a woman gets drunk and has sex, she's not held responsible for her actions. If a man gets drunk and has sex, he's not only held responsible for his actions, he's prosecuted for her actions.

[–]jorgander 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Taking advantage of her while unconscious (e.g. passed out) is obviously wrong for him to do. However, if both get drunk and end up having sex, and she would not have done it otherwise, it should obviously not be wrong for him to do.

Warren Farrell weighed in on this:

As long as society tells men to be the salespersons of sex, it is sexist for society to put only men in jail if they sell well. We don’t put other salespersons in jail for buying clients drinks and successfully transforming a no into a maybe into a yes . If the client makes a choice to drink too much and the yes turns out to be a bad decision, it is the client who gets fired, not the salesperson. We expect adults to take responsibility.

[–]MrStinky 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love that quote!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being a man is a legal liability.

[–]synnndstalker 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but you're forgetting a major factor here. If a woman gets drunk and crashes her car, she could theoretically harm another woman pretty badly. If she gets drunk, has sex, regrets it and cries rape, then no women could be harmed by it.

[–]veggie_girl 24 points25 points26 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if "Every time a woman has sex, she is raped - Men, your only option is to go gay or be a rapist" posters would be a big hit? It's funny how absolute statements work.

While we're at it better make some "All women are deceitful and liars" posters and put them up. This would negate the rapist posters quite effectively because if all women are liars then that means all of them are likely lying about being raped. (All jokes aside really 98.7% of women are liars, even me - I am vehemently working on not lying though, especially to myself [AKA the hamster]).

[–]TheLowerBourg 15 points16 points17 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

How about a "Don't get black-out-drunk around strangers with no friends to take care of you" poster or "Don't be a dick to drunk strangers" poster?

I'm a guy and I've never felt relaxed while drinking with people I don't know even though the worst thing that usually happens is permanent marker to the face or shaved eyebrows. Guess having free agency and responsibility is denied to females

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Camille Paglia would agree with you.

However the posters aren't about keeping females safe. The posters are about demonizing men.

[–]TRIGGER__WARNING 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate the feminist rhetoric of "Don't blame the victim!" "It doesn't matter what she was wearing!" "Teach men not to rape, girls can do whatever they want!"

...No, they can't. They shouldn't go to a party and get blackout drunk, wearing slutty clothes. They don't have the freedom to do that and expect safety. Nobody does. If they get taken advantage of, it's their own damn fault.

Yes, I'm victim blaming because the victim made an extremely poor decision.

I won't go into a bad neighborhood dressed in fancy clothes with a Rolex watch. It's fucking stupid. The world isn't safe, so I shouldn't expect safety.

Fucking entitlement mentality, I swear.

[–]jorgander 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a similar back-and-forth not long ago that started with me raising the point about discretion. I don't think she even noticed we were in agreement about the fault issue.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

even though the worst thing that usually happens is permanent marker to the face or shaved eyebrows

Thankfully not a ton of bruises and a missing wallet, phone, watch, glasses, etc.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If drunkenness means you are not competent to consent, then couldn't you answer a drunk "rape" charge with "I was drunk too so she raped me"?

[–]veggie_girl 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

or "I was too drunk to realize I was raping her" would be just as valid. Men should be allowed to go on a raping frenzy as long as they are drunk, because if women are allowed to claim rape simply because they are drunk, then its completely fair.

/not-sarcasm - if women want to be treated this way and are for equal rights, then it works the other way too.

[–]FriendInHead 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the hypocrisy of it though. "We want equality," most often means "We want equality PLUS special privileges of our own." Which isn't equality.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is quite true, but we know how The Empire works.

Do NOT even put yourself in such a situation.

[–]darksoldierk 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOLS, maybe if you're a woman being accused of raping another woman. Or a woman raping a man, but no matter what a man says or does, once he's accused of rape, sexual assault, paedophilia etc. he's considered guilty far before any evidence is presented or anyone steps into a courtroom

[–]PerniciousOne 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The biggest thing, if you are a guy and you get completely shit-faced and mouth off to a guy, you will get beaten up. If you are completely shit-faced and careless with your money, it will be removed from you. Removing any and all accountability for women's actions is completely retarded.

You could ask them why do they lock their car and not leave the keys in the ignition? Why do you have a lock on your house? Big Dog? Alarm?

Being a male has a significantly higher chance of being assaulted, or murdered for just a couple bucks, than you do of being sexually assaulted.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Someone correct me here.

It's not illegal to sign a contract with a drunk person; in fact, future provisions in those contracts are usually enforceable, unless it can be proven that you knew the other person was highly intoxicated. Either way, it's not illegal, just potentially unenforceable.

It's also not illegal to sell1 to a drunk person. If the sale is non-reversible, like selling food that gets consumed, or selling a massage, you are not compelled to give a refund. If the item is refundable (or has yet to be delivered), the same caveats apply above—it must be proven that you knew the other person was highly intoxicated.

I'm a broken record in this sub, but feminists want and need women to feel like children with no responsibility and no agency.

1: Except for alcohol in many jurisdictions.

[–]Gobbledig00k 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It actually is illegal to sign a contract with a person who is intoxicated, atleast where I live it is.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you outside of the United States?

And do you know why it's illegal? If it's illegal, you still could only be charged with the crime if it's proven you knew the person were highly intoxicated (unless it's your responsibility to perform a blood test).

And in that case, why not simply make any future contract terms unenforceable? Why would anyone make it a crime to sign a contract with someone who doesn't even have to uphold their end? That sucks for you, not for them.

[–]Gobbledig00k 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hah. I screwed up in my reply. I live in the US and i meant to say that the contract is unenforcable. Its unenforcable for the same reason that a contract with a child under 18 isnt. One of the requirements for a legally binding contract is for both parties to be 'of sound mind and body' so a drunk person is obviously not of sound mind and the contract will be void.

[–]DesiAntiFeminist 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The poster campaign is actually quite brilliant for the feminist industrial complex. The posters are subtly communicating women to go even more feral and fornicate with abandon, using alcohol and drugs as facilitators. Any regrets or remorse can be conveniently redefined as rape, retroactively. This results in a tremendous increase in the market size for the profit of the feminist industrial complex.

It's the same playbook as cigarettes, junk food, pharmaceuticals, consumer goods....

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Calling this a "rape apologist" campaign is clearly disingenuous even to the passersby on the street.

These shrill battle axes are shitting on their own credibility, and have been doing so for years.

[–]Indesejavel 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Makes me wonder why so many Americans want to escape to this 'paradise' that is Canada. Seems to me that it doesn't just possess the putrid smell of government-knows-best socialism but it's also full of feminazis.

[–]bw2002 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That post is linked to by SRS, which explains the tone.

[–]zionController 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They linked this thread?

[–]Funkajunk 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's actually quite nice on the west coast and southern Ontario, everywhere else is not as good from what I hear.

[–]DesiAntiFeminist 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Both Vancouver and Toronto metro areas are heavily infested by feminists. The state's support for feminists is pervasive.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What?

Canadian here. Feminists and pro abortionists everywhere. Dyke haircuts everywhere. Hamster everywhere. I've lived on the east coast, Quebec, and Ontario. Do you even Canada?

I go for women aged 18-25 and the entire demographic is 'strong independent woman' bullshit.

The government is stacked against us. Minister for the status of women always covering every new bill with her labia.

Toronto is home of the original slutwalk, and the obscene protests against dr. Farrell this year and multiple others.

Ever hear about the movie dear Zachary? It's an indie film about the insane woman in Canada who was awarded custody of her son in a divorce and she threw him off a cliff and then killed herself.

Canada is only good if you're a fagget or a minority.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]zionController 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Actually, the same people who push feminism on us also push for gay marriage and gay pride. Both are anti-family movements.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is your problem with gay people? How do they affect your life at all? Dont be an asshole.

[–]zionController 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Degeneracy isn't something that should be state subsidized.

[–]lazlounderhill 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Misandry is a thing.

[–]wrongful_ignorance 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The ad agency's next campaign targets the Italian mafia with a big spot during Ellen "kneecapping another Italian while they sleep is grievous bodily harm."

[–]angelothewizard 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, hold on, if sex with someone unable to consent is sexual assault, then I can imagine that the numbers of men being raped would triple. After all, if they're wasted, they cannot consent, meaning that since both of you were drunk, you both raped each other.

Never ever let me look at a social construct or idea for more then three seconds, I will deconstruct it, reverse engineer it, and turn it back against the creator. I love my brain.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

seriously though, Jews definitely worship satan, like they literally admit they worship satan.

[–]Tyrien -4 points-3 points-2 points 13 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

The fact that this has been blown out of proportion to translate into "all men are rapists" is absolutely ridiculous.

The campaign isn't "teaching men" on how to not comit sexual assault, assuming all men will otherwise comit sexual assault. It's educating young men on what is and isn't sexual assault. Truth is, too many people think a lot of this is okay and that's not right.

If we seriously can't admit that that's an issue then we have a major problem ourselves.

Just because something is saying something is an issue does not mean it is saying everyone has that issue. If you can walk by and say "oh, I'd never do that anyway" then good for you. The posters are designed for young men entering adulthood to stop and think "wait...".

It's no different than condescending drunk driving commercials. If you can walk by and say "oh well I'd never do that anyway, it doesn't apply to me" then good. If you stop and have to think for even a minute about your own behaviour, then you should be thinking about your own behaviour.

[–]captshady 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the name of equality, there should be a campaign educating women as well. Please link to where they exist?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

when you bring up drunk driving commercials, it all my years of life and TV watching, not once have I seen a drunk driving PSA where the driver was a woman.

I am currently acquainted with 3 females with DUI on their records, they used to blow up my phone every weekend wanting me to drive their asses around but taxi service in the area has improved in recent years.

[–]JohnPeel 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Except most rapes are committed by family members (and many of these are women, except it technically isn't rape because they use objects to abuse victims instead of penises) or psychopaths for which such campaigns are ineffective.

See my refutation of the campaign here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1hnd56/oh_look_a_dont_be_that_guy_campaign_for_rape_and/caw3tph?context=3

Basically it didn't work, it did absolutely nothing. So since it doesn't work they should stop doing it.

[–]DesiAntiFeminist 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The campaign absolutely worked. It communicated to women they can get irresponsibly drunk and use drugs and have sex without regard to consequences.

The campaign did not work they way you think it was meant to work.

Two different things.

[–]JohnPeel 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well... yes. However, the majority of the criticism directed at us for criticising it hinges around the point that it supposedly worked to reduce incidences of rape, which it categorically did not.

The real reason is that it's feeding off people's fears in order to make a quick buck out of government grants.

[–]wrongful_ignorance 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't promote a typical scenario in life with a suggested shameful action without advocating that some parts of the scenario have an acceptable and relateable aspect to begin with - and that's part of the problem.

These ads are advocating that it's normal or morally dismissible for an innocent girl to be blackout drunk. What's more is that they assume the men that are around in any given party scenario are actually opportunistic deviants who are inclined to show sexual advances towards girls in this unconscious state.

The message hints that the majority of men need to be told what obvious situations are effectively male on female sexual assault as they would be unable to determine this for themselves. It hints at the unacceptability of mens current tendencies in this situation, however likely, and by not addressing the pass out drunk aspect it advocates the acceptance of any girls actions that may cause this state.

[+]ArchangelleManhater -8 points-7 points-6 points 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I agree, although that's not hard. You could probably slap me awake, and hungover I could point out at least five problems with those posters. Its not particularly hard, and I'm sure you could too.

The conclusion to this article is fucking awful.

They’re the new Nazis.

Seriously? Using propaganda does not make you "the new Nazis". Pretty sure they are just plain old bigots.

[–]_Xi_ 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Considering the views most of these radfems have, it's safe to say they are indeed the new 'nazi'. The problem really is that word doesn't MEAN anything anymore because people used it too much.

[–]ArchangelleManhater -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Ok, so what does the new 'nazi' mean?

Maybe my definition is off because I'm judging by actions, not intentions. Radfems have had and do have some truly disgusting views. But they've never actually manage to start something on the scale of Holocaust. And if the example of them being the new 'nazi' is some posters, then you've blown it way out of proportion.

[–]_Xi_ 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Funny enough, right after I posted this a group of male 'radfems' on my facebook posted an article about this. Their comments ranged from "fucking disgusting" to "MRAs should all die in a fire" and "fire is too good for them, they should die slowly to flesh eating bacteria". No doubt, if you purposed to round up the MRAs into camps, these people would be the first to jump on board with the idea. Obviously it will never reach that point thanks to GENOCIDE BEING AGAINST THE LAW, but the same mentality that nazi Germany had is present in the minds of all these radfems and that itself is dangerous.

[–]ArchangelleManhater 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I agree with you. I realise the problem here. I'm thinking about activism and posters, and you're talking about the mindset. You're saying that the mindset of radfems, the dehumanization of MRAs and the hatred of men is the same mindset as the nazi view of Jews. And that if people with this mindset had any real power, they'd be rounding up MRAs for a firing squad.

And I don't think that it is that genocide is against the law. I think that it is that they couldn't get away with it, and so they get away with whatever they can. Radical Feminism doesn't really seem to mind breaking the law.

Why the hell would you ever want to have a group of male radfems added on facebook. It sounds like a painful thing.

[–]zionController 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was expecting so much flaming from you judging by your handle.

You leave me in a state of confusion

[–]ArchangelleManhater 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It is meant to be mocking SRS, and their silly little Archangelle names. I'm not anti-RedPill, and I have a open mind about it.

[–]zionController 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Brofist

[–]_Xi_ 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the hell would you ever want to have a group of male radfems added on facebook. It sounds like a painful thing.

Left over remnants of a life before the pill. I usually forget about them because they post so little.

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