As a 30 year old incel loser, the few others I've talked to who I have suspected being incels (or at least very very few romantic partners) all come from liberal backgrounds. I live in a suburbs of a red state (although the city itself is fairly blue) fwiw. Do you think part of the problem with incels was the lack of parenting (due to perhaps not even being in the kids life, or just lack of parenting) telling men that you are going to have be aggressive somewhat in the dating market, valuing masculinity, you need to employ traditionalist ways in the dating game?