Feminism doesn't want to overturn the patriarchy

Pillowed321 · 2017-08-04T04:10:38+00:00

Feminism is patriarchy in lipstick

is a popular quote among MRAs. Feminism depends on chivalry and white knighting. The movement needs the traditional gender roles of the patriarchy to survive. Without patriarchy, we would see male victims of DV get the same support as women, fathers getting as much rights to their children as fathers, women being expected to ask men out on dates, etc. All things that feminism is against.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2017-08-04T00:53:12+00:00

what you are seeing is competing strains of feminism. the original women's movement was not MARXIST, it was US and anglo and didnt contain patriarchy theory. patriarchy theory came in with he influence of marx from europe and took root. these strains have always been around simultaneously and thats why in second wave you see the "capitalist" "working women" feminism and the marxist radfem movement existing at the same time and almost seeming to be unrelated

andrewisgood · 2017-08-04T01:38:22+00:00

I've never felt bad for a word before until today. The word "research" in this post has been horribly abused, we probably should start like a charity for it. Maybe start a GoFundMe.

sublimemongrel · 2017-08-04T01:41:22+00:00

Define the patriarchy first please.

Butt-Factory · 2017-08-04T03:19:30+00:00

If the feminists really want to destroy the patriarchy it would require a coup. They would need to do something like start aborting a majority of their male fetuses.

Being against a male centered and male controlled power structure is not the same as wanting men to cease to exist.

Most of feminism involves expanding female privilege at the expense of low status males.

What rights have men lost because of feminism?

Who grants women these rights and privileges other than the patriarchy?

That's like saying slave holders are responsible for freeing the slaves and deserve gratitude.

The patriarchy can be really good for some women and it would probably be better for a lot women than equality. As the patriarchy values its sex and baby making objects more than its labor objects.

Precisely! The goal of feminism is to allow women to choose their destiny. Many women are very happy in traditional roles, and many women are happier rejecting those roles. Feminism allows women to opt in or out according to their preferences and values.

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[deleted] · 2017-08-04T03:17:52+00:00

I thought it was a safe assumption that their preferred way of getting rid of der patriarchy was by chipping away at it bit by bit?

[deleted] · 2017-08-04T04:05:03+00:00

I will be satisfied as long as men and women have equal rights. I don't know what the "patriarchy" means in the context you described. In my country men and women don't have equal rights because mandatory military service exists. Once we abolish the legal slavery for men, I won't care about feminism anymore as, in my view, "egalitarianism" can't exist in the current system of capitalism anyway. People who try to push for affirmative action etc. are misguided imo.

Dominic_Badguy · 2017-08-04T02:01:29+00:00

You know the opening fifteen minutes or so of Wonder Woman? That is Nirvana for feminists. No men at all.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-08-04T00:56:08+00:00

Feminism is female nature and female nature is hysterical. Feminism doesn't "want" anything, it just nags everyone to death

Title	Feminism doesn't want to overturn the patriarchy
Author	Cunari
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Comments	114
Date	August 4, 2017 12:50 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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