Why there are so many questions about every possible situation here. And a question.

MachiavellianRed · 2014-12-24T13:10:00+00:00

How can we develop simple, few principles that can be applied to nearly all cases so that we can find the answers by ourselves, without having to ask the community for answers to every individual case?

If you've read the sidebar you won't be asking dumb shit like this. These are new guys who haven't taken the time to read anything, have recently turned up and want everybody to just hand them the answers on a platter. Some people have poor analytical skills and can't apply what they've learned here to their own situations, so they ask and ask and ask.

it's almost never applicable to my cases.

I doubt that, you just can't make the links in your head.

sir_wankalot_here · 2014-12-24T09:59:13+00:00

You are making the dangerous assumption there is only one way to solve a problem. It is like reading about a battle or a chess game. Analyse each move and think why did they make the move they did, where there other possible moves etc.

Sometimes using a tactic which appears to break the rules can be extremely powerful if done properly. The recent post entitled "How I buy drinks and get results" shows this. Again judging by the comments most people failed to appreciate it and right away jumped to conclusions. The moment they ready "Buy drinks" thier brains shut down and they started yelling "Beta Bux".

trpfieldreport · 2014-12-24T15:48:14+00:00

Learning on a case-by-case basis is an extremely ineffective way of learning. There is a lack of universal guiding principles for us to apply.

There is an ABUNDANCE of universal guiding principles for you to apply.

RTFSB (Read The Fucking Side Bar)

and although I've internalized many of them, it's almost never applicable to my cases

Then you self-admittedly do not understand TRP nor how it is applied.

TRP is applicable in every. single. scenario.

The reason we send people to /r/asktrp is because we have answered all of your questions hundreds of times over.

Every week we get a post that goes something like:

"This girl I'm pursuing did X. I understand AWALT, but I think she's the exception to the rule. What do I do TRP?"

If you don't understand AWALT, then you don't understand the core of this sub and you haven't read the ridiculous amount of content that people have put together for you to read to prevent you from asking silly questions.

I understand advice seeking - it's pretty much impossible to be completely objective and impartial in your own life. This is why we have /r/asktrp, so that you can seek advice. And there are people who read /r/asktrp and will help lead you to water.

But you have to drink it.

I feel like an infant in spite of all the PUA and RP knowledge I've gathered

Well do you apply that knowledge? Do you go out and talk to women? Do you even lift, bro? Are you mission focused? Are you outcome independent? Are you disciplined in holding frame?

For those of us who are the above, we find it VERY difficult to believe that others have those same traits and are not successful. IF you successfully master any ONE of the above, your success with women increases tenfold.

It sounds to me like you need to erase what you have on the board and start over.

hhayaii · 2014-12-24T15:52:52+00:00

I think the thing with the red pill is that it's not really an instruction set as to how interact. The red pill is just information that describes reality. It's up to the individual to apply it to their life and I believe that is what people mean here when they say "internalize" the red pill. Once you have that knowledge, you must draw your own conclusions as to how to proceed/interact in the world.

oldredder · 2014-12-24T09:39:53+00:00

Life is case-by-case, exceptions are the rule. Finding general rules & principles generally misleads you because then you blind-side yourself to real life experience teaching you that a path through life is like a walking path through a fractal universe.

Generalize where useful but admit it's a flawed over-simplification.

without having to ask the community for answers to every individual case?

1) live life

2) be risk-seeking

3) take notes

4) don't dare let yourself post something unless you've got months of notes condensed into simple, brief questions. I literally spent multiple years documenting almost every minute of every social interaction, every party, every lay, every failed lay, every pickup, everything, more than 15 years ago. I studied it, solidified it, questioned it, asked what I missed and made my own mental conclusions based on it all. A lot of crazy things happened. That's also why it's completely encrypted & stored in a manner that is almost impossible to find, much less try to decode by force (pgp). This is before the days of cell phones with cameras, and starting before cell phones even existed at all outside of bricks you'd carry like those old 80's movies so I'd just look at my watch and memorize the time & event, describe it briefly in my mind and keep going. At the end of 1-3 days I'd unload it all, type it all up, encrypt it & save it for later to review.

5) don't post at all if you see others have posted in the last 5 months and the questions have been answered. While taking your notes along life's path try checking back on posts, write nothing, and see if those questions have been answered yet

6) be goal-oriented / outcome-seeking, and with outcome independence this means divergent outcomes so you will do 1 in a situation but have many choices which conflict until a choice is made. You're preparing to face that choice/divergence. Being goal-oriented to choose an outcome means you start selecting through all the feasible, sensible, possible questions & answers mid-step already knowing what's the desired outcome you want and the necessary/fixed starting point you have (fixed meaning you already were there, it's not theoretical). From there searching the much shorter list of what you can do / say with a singular goal in mind makes sense.

For example "what do I text" shouldn't be the question, it should be "I want this girl to back down from nagging me, what usually works?" then it leaves the door open for skype, in-person conversation, text, amused mastery, no-contact, and further, when you frame it like this, it's easier to then peruse the entire content of what's posted first and keep that in mind so you're literally creating the hole into which to fit the peg.

May still be wrong but the search is more precise & can be fixed with life experience. By keeping notes & not posting you might find your answer yourself and not need to post. Then if someone else has the question you might actually have the answer for someone else.

Also for the sidebar: it's really, truly poorly organized in this sense. It needs to be organized in tags by topic, question, outcome, level of difficulty or to have its own google-search type interface so the most frequently used terms auto-fill & most frequent / most uprated answers pop to the top. It would cut down post/reply traffic a hundred-fold and be much easier to search in general.

Scymnus · 2014-12-24T09:44:29+00:00

If you need definitive answers to every single case I'm guessing you haven't internalized as much as you think. It took me reading the sidebar and several top posts 2-3 times until it started falling into place, so don't give up.

However, if you want is to have sex with women all you have to do is lift, be playful and be dominant (especially in bed). Won't turn you into a player overnight, but it works if you can live with sex every couple months at least.

pcadrian · 2014-12-24T15:16:09+00:00

People learn by example. You can't just recite abstract concepts to everyone. You need both the abstraction and an idea on how to implement it.

scamper_22 · 2014-12-24T15:30:05+00:00

sure.

Have expectations of yourself and others.
Don't be afraid of losing/offending someone
Always ask yourself what is in it for me. Don't be a self-sacrificing oaf.

So say you get a text from some girl. Really what is the big picture guideline? Just go through the list: 1. Does the text violate any expectations? Is it rude, violent... Then don't validate it. 2. Are you afraid that what you respond/don't respond will cause the other person to lose. Who cares. Plenty of other people in the world. Even if you make the wrong choice, there's more people and you will learn from that experience. 3. What does that girl bring to the table for you to put up with texts that cause you issues?

Hokuto199x · 2014-12-24T17:28:17+00:00

There isn't a lack of guiding principles though. Frame, for example, is a pretty general concept. In my mind if someone posits a situation where one may have difficulty maintaining frame or a type of shit test that might be harder to pass there is merit in that discussion. When it gets overly specific such as "how do I answer this text I got from a plate?" then it's probably something for asktrp. Shit tests are another great example. In almost every case you can be advised to use amused mastery, agree & amplify, or simply ignore it and maintain your frame.

FrameWalker · 2014-12-24T19:45:23+00:00

These case studies have been very very helpful, especially post more. s when things go wrong. Discussing minutia in asktrp has helped me, and there's nothing wrong with using examples to learn.

circlhat · 2014-12-24T22:04:36+00:00

This line of thinking prevents optimization , game is ever evolving and methods to meet women come and go.

Plus just talking to someone can help a lot, Otherwise we are just a static emotionless page and men are still left to wonder if they implemented game correctly.

RPModulator · 2014-12-24T14:49:38+00:00

How can we develop simple, few principles that can be applied to nearly all cases so that we can find the answers by ourselves, without having to ask the community for answers to every individual case?

Ha, a unified theory, you must be the next Einstein . . .

Certainly, part of what you are seeing on AskTRP is the lack of theory you speak of. Of course, even when one has theory, implementation of that theory can be difficult for the uninitiated . . . Maybe a good idea on AskTRP would be for all posters to be required to state what theory they are trying to apply before receiving any help with the application. Then, the problem you are noting (i.e., lack of reading the available references) would eventually fix itself.

Title	Why there are so many questions about every possible situation here. And a question.
Author	pinche_trp
Upvotes	3
Comments	13
Date	December 24, 2014 8:32 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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