(Q4RP) How much does "game" actually matter?

SetConsumes · 2017-02-28T19:06:41+00:00

Game matters more than anything else. Game is ones social skills, expresses and derives from their personality, it does everything from make a woman want your or hate you or not care about you.

Being fit matters, not beautiful, beyond that, game is what makes people, women or not, want you.

LewisCross · 2017-02-28T18:10:59+00:00

So, how much does personality/game/skill whatever actually factor into a mans success with women?

It's crucial. The short version is "Looks, status, game: Pick two." Meaning, if you have two, you'll do OK.

Most men don't have good looks. So they need status and game. They're not going to make it on status. They need more than that.

Men who are trying to make it on status alone fail almost all the time and can't get past date 2. What happens is that at date 2, she learns the only thing this guy's got going for him is a job where he makes some decent money. He has no hobbies, he's not interesting, he's never done anything interesting, he can't or wont stand up for himself, he has no boundaries, and puts up with shit all the time from others. These men attract bitches, gold diggers, substance abusers, women with daddy issues, and cluster B personality disordered women.

Any man wanting anything from women, even his wife, has to have some basic rudimentary Game. He has to have clear boundaries and not hesitate to enforce them. He has to refuse to put up with even one ounce of shit from a woman he's dating. She flips him even a dingleberry, he needs to say "fuck off" and go silent. He has to have his own life into which he invites her; not where he "folds his life into hers". He has to direct the course of the relationship.

figthief · 2017-02-28T18:30:12+00:00

For men between the 40th and 70th percentile, a lot.

prodigy2throw · 2017-02-28T18:59:57+00:00

Game is everything.

How you look is a part of your game. If you're able to be attractive to women before you even talk to her you're pregaming her

alreadyredschool · 2017-02-28T18:11:39+00:00

Game is everything. After you are in the top 20 (which isn't hard).

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BPremium · 2017-02-28T18:42:45+00:00

It matters. Just not as much as looks. No amount of game is going to get a chubby guy a hot, thin girl.

says_harsh_things · 2017-02-28T18:54:49+00:00

As with other things, are you talking about the angry low value men on rp or the normal guys trying to improve their relationship skills?

A lot of anger phase rpers want to walk into a room or show up to a tinder date and have the girl fall to their knees in the glory of their male sexuality. That is NEVER going to happen if youre not in the top 20.

If you want a normal relationship based on mutual attraction and matching personalities, having a social awareness and conversational skills is very important and you dont need to be in the top 20.

That said, dont expect to go to a dance club in college so loud you cant hear yourself think and expect to connect with a girl on personality and game.

antariusz · 2017-02-28T22:18:49+00:00

More important than looks.

Source: this guy fucks.

nomdplume · 2017-02-28T23:10:51+00:00

Game is of primary importance.

Guys with superior game can beat out better looking dudes who lack game.

You know when women who are asked about why they hooked up with that guy who didn't seem to be in any obvious way a match for her and she replies, 'I don't know...there was just something about him!' That something is usually game. Or a huge cock that no one really knows about, lol.

gopher_glitz · 2017-02-28T23:51:03+00:00

The things you lack most, matter most. If you're socially incompetent, then social skills matter a lot. If you ugly, then looks are going to be important.

For example, if someone tells you that looks aren't as important as game then they probably aren't very ugly but maybe improved their social skills and had better success.

PostModernismKills · 2017-03-01T03:37:39+00:00

Suppressing the bruised ego that leads you to subreddits such as these doesn't hurt your chances of "success."

IIHotelYorba · 2017-03-01T04:25:54+00:00

The "looks" angle isn't even red pill, it's blue pill. Go to any fucking thread and it'll be full of dipshits with no game talking about how you have to have looks to get laid. Look in any men's magazine. It is 100% conventional wisdom.

Game isn't just about getting a girls attention. Game is everything. All guys who fuck (including Chads) have game. Game is confidence AND wisdom AND action.

Looks are just looks. They help but they don't make you a "Chad."

Merger-Arbitrage · 2017-03-01T06:10:05+00:00

"Game" - or as you said, your personality/charm (plus others) which you can use to generate attraction in women where it was minimal, is pretty crucial and probably the most difficult (if not impossible) aspect of a male to fix to up his RMV/SMV. It does not, however, make up for a total lack of looks or status. A complete lack of any one aspect of RMV/SMV = game over.

TheWorldToCome · 2017-03-01T21:51:59+00:00

Doesn't matter at all, not one bit. Women decide if they want to fuck you within a split second, so as long as you have normal social skills then that's all that matters.

Entropy-7 · 2017-03-02T01:56:41+00:00

I am a horrible hypocrite because I say you should lift but I do not. I suppose the reason for that is because I can get by on being clever.

Not as a humble brag but as a statement of fact, I have been tested several times and I clock in at about a 138 IQ.

But the thing is, I work it. I am no genius and I have known several spergy geniuses.

Funny thing is that everyone on the internet has an IQ of 150+

My advice is rather simple: read Carnagie, join Toastmasters or your university debating club: build these skills and you will be light years ahead of others. Learn to talk to men, and then you can talk to women.

IamTheWalkingMenu · 2017-02-28T18:11:13+00:00

%how much does personality/game/skill whatever actually factor into a mans success with women?

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DupreeMcJones · 2017-03-02T00:20:47+00:00

Game is everything.

Title	(Q4RP) How much does "game" actually matter?
Author	brianharveyofeast17
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Date	February 28, 2017 5:57 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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