Still new to all of this, but I can't help thinking that the majority of guys I know just wouldn't care enough for all of this. i.e. working out, looking better, and trying to get their wives to do the same. They wouldn't be interested in spending their time on forums talking about sexual politics or learning a whole theory about men and women and how to relate. Some have great sex lives, to be sure, but I suspect a lot would be ok settling into mediocre, semi-frequent sex, and focus on other things. It's a bit of a surprise how much some redpillers WANT women, and the lengths they'll go to get them, or to bring the spark back in their marriages. Have to admit, I'm a bit touched by that.