This is a FR on using the NYTimes article. NYT LINK or TRP LINK It’s my FR cherry popping, don’t be gentle I like it rough.
Back story: Coming back to town over winter break, I fired up Tinder. After a few hours of tweaking profile to include gym, wedding, and suited pictures, including a short n sweet description with a joke and height. I started getting matches the first night, and day 2 is when I matched with Tabitha (name changed).
First date, drinks. She was late so I ordered two shots before she even got there (which arrived just as she sat down) of Jack Daniels as a ‘penalty’ for being late. A couple beers later and we were making out in a corner of the bar.
After some fun banter over text message, the following week we go out for dinner. Earlier that day I read the NYT article and thought it was at least good conversation material, at best she’d fall in love. Win-win, as I am looking for a new plate. As we’re at dinner and she’s figuring out what to order, I ask her question #1, dinner invite. We actually talked about other things for a few minutes, but she gave a good answer and asked for mine. Then, almost casually,
T: “so anymore questions from that article? which one is next?” (…quick, to the frame cave!)
Me: “what article?”
T:“I think i read it in the NYT?”
Me:“I actually had that as a college essay question, it was interesting and a good conversation starter soooooo actually what article?”
T:“oh it was this thing about love”
Me:“I call bullshit, I’m googling it...finds it...Seriously?! Ok wait...reads it...what is this? ok some of these are interesting. We’re doing this"
Cue rest of dinner and drinks going through almost all the questions. We skipped a few that seemed repetitive.
As I’ve already developed rapport with her for having a “hard shell”--as she puts it--I open up a bit in my answers. I’m 25 and both parents are in nursing homes. I’ve been bullied when younger. I figured this emotional connection would give her a taste of the salty and sweet--variety, and the soft side women crave to see exposed (Note: I believe its a fine line. I try to give a small glimpse of what could be seen over the course of many years).
Something that struck me as quite interesting was a pattern in our conversation. If I answered first, she’d echo my responses, increasing any show of vulnerability or emotion. If she went first, I would be funny/witty with my answers.
Example:
2. Would you like to be famous? In what way?
T:Sure.
My response “as president"
3. Before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse what you are going to say? Why?
T: Always, and tells a story about practicing for a job interview.
Me: I used to back in college “when I’m at a party calling my parents drunk, i rehearse saying ‘I’m in the library’ and when I’m in the library, I practicing telling them "I’m not a nerd, I’m actually at a party, I swear!"
4. What would constitute a “perfect” day for you?
I said after waking up next to her then I’d watch the sunset and walk her dogs…”oh really? hmm what makes you think that will happen?” “hey! don’t interrupt its my turn"
5. When did you last sing to yourself? To someone else?
She goes deep and shares a last few moments of a friend dying with cancer.
Me: “Happy Birthday to a friend a few weeks ago!"
7. Do you have a secret hunch about how you will die?
Me: I think either of cancer, or I’ll die in space.
she says thats so cool. She doesn’t know.
8. Name three things you and your partner appear to have in common.
Me:We’re both enjoying dinner. We both don’t know what to say to this question. We both want to kiss each other. After a moment of eye contact, I get up and kiss her in the restaurant wordlessly.
10. If you could change anything about the way you were raised, what would it be? T: (goes deep, explaining childhood was great and that she's very thankful"
Me: “play more sports"
13. If a crystal ball could tell you the truth about yourself, your life, the future or anything else, what would you want to know?
Me: I'd want to know if or which religion is real T: What happens when we die
15. What is the greatest accomplishment of your life?
T: (laughs) not having been a teen pregnancy (maybe red flag?) Me: Getting up every time i’ve been knocked down
—at this point the tequila we were drinking with dinner is kicking in, and memory is foggy—
Overall, my strategy was to hold frame. Also this was my first post-pill date. I knew she’d run if I was beta, so I tried to stay the hell away from that.
Which I believe worked. For the “Positive qualities” (Question #22), she said that I’m direct, motivated, intelligent, resilient, and have a good sense of humor. Almost exactly who I am showing the world I am (cue silent nod into breaking 4th wall to /r/theredpill).
Anywho, the proof is in the pudding. I brought a nice wine to share with her for a movie at her place post dinner. As expected (at some point) she starts having LMR. She says "I’m tired, and I have to work at 5am tomorrow!" I acted outcome ambivalent, didn't wine or plead, just walked over to my car and gave her the bottle of wine, and said warm it on your tiny bosom (making fun of something she’d shared earlier). "I'll come back for it tomorrow night." I kissed her aggressively and pushed her into the side of her car, then when she tried to push into my body, I pushed her away then walked off and got into my car. Drove away, pleased with myself, but aware I didn't bowl 300.
I was listening to music on the interstate, driving out of Hotlanta to the 'burbs when my phone starts ringing. who could this be? OH ITS TABITHA? Mild inner man excitement, and I try to hide it during the “you wanna come over” call.
Wine, Movie (Django!). At this point in time, on the couch, but before making out, I remembered a post from a few weeks back where a guy fucked up by not pursuing a chick who invited him over. One of the commenters wrote "dude she invited you over, she was game! Listen to what she does not what she says." This gave me the confidence to get what I wanted--a good fucking.
So after more LMR “I’m not having sex with you tonight” during super aggressive make-out session on the couch…and then "I'm not taking my bra off"..."we're not going to my bed" she told her dogs to "stop cockblocking" after I got her wet and bothered and we proceeded to fuck for an hour. I almost broke my hand on her ass, and I really didn't hold back on the slapping (first time going that HAM). She sucked the white off my cock, and I went home around 1 grinning.
Thanks /r/theredpill for all the great info and advice. Hopefully this is a post worthy of this sub.
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