I want to empathise with TRP men. Please help me do so.

[deleted] · 2015-04-23T15:38:24+00:00

1: Finding LTR/FWB/ONS

A woman has to show up to get laid. A man has to be top 20% awesome. This isn't a problem, but we live in a culture where men are trained to be supplicating betas who don't look after their own interest. Imagine the anger you feel when you learn that your family, teachers, and larger society have all been teaching you to make women happy and not yourself. You feel betrayed and furious.

2: Homelessness

More an MRA issue. Not sure what there is to tell. Men are overwhelmingly more likely to be homeless but get far less shelter and support than women in the same situation.

3: Attractiveness

You're literally taught from infancy to sacrifice your sexuality, not try to be attractive, not put yourself first, and do whatever it takes to make the women happy. The world is cruel to you while you make this sacrifice. You wake up at 20, miserable, sexually unsuccessful, and routinely disrespected. If you're lucky, you find the red pill and get your life on track.

4: Education?

Men are very heavily discriminated against in education and not given equal opportunity to what women have, this is really more of an MRA issue though.

5: Friends (close friends like bff)

Actually that's good. I'd never trade male friendships, even beta male friendships, for what women have.

6: Crime?

Men face every conceivable disadvantage relative to women and have no quantifiable privileges at all. Some resort to crime in order to make ends meet. Courts are also much harder on men than women in court though, due to bias. Not really a red pill issue though. You should check out /r/mensrights. You might like them.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2015-04-23T13:33:02+00:00

my disconnect with their world

Can I suggest then that you tell us what you believe about human sexuality, and you can invite TRPers to challenge you on those beliefs.

dicklord_airplane · 2015-04-23T18:37:47+00:00

if you want to empathize and understand why it exists, understand that there a millions of dudes out there who are productive, kind, and would never hurt a fly, but they have no clue whatsoever about how to be attractive to women. they were given a lot of plainly false info on how to attract women, and they are lonely and frustrated with no one to turn to for practical advice. boys need to be taught how to be attractive and how to keep women interested, and a shit load of boys do not get this crucial training because it's politically incorrect. a lot of them are angry that they've wasted so much time doing what they were told to do. lots of guys were set up for romantic failure because they were taught to be meek and deferential to women, and they are pissed.

you may have understood attraction and romance between men and women naturally, but please understand that a shit load of guys do not, or they were programmed for failure while they grew up. it's true that everyone is different and that it's best to look at people as individuals, but the red pill is more about revealing overall trends in human sexuality and (very importantly) identifying pitfalls and signs of danger in relationships with women. the red pill talks about evil women and the common ways that women manipulate and exploit men so often because a bad relationship with the wrong woman can utterly wreck a guy's life. dudes want to know about the actual trends and dangers in relationships with women because they haven't been taught.

other than these points, i can't relate with the red pill either. all women aren't evil, illogical succubi that can't be trusted. that's stupid. only some of them are.

Bakerofpie · 2015-04-23T14:30:09+00:00

I think for what you are looking for you are best off going to /r/mensrights. Any overlap between TRP and MRM are coincidental. TRP is sexual strategy. Men's rights is about the social issues you mentioned above. Only a couple of those are relevant to TRP.

Aerobus · 2015-04-23T17:11:00+00:00

Rofl what.

You want to "emphathize" with us?

You're full of shit.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-04-23T13:25:27+00:00

2,4,5,6 are not TRP issues. Its not a religion or a social movement

GridReXX · 2015-04-23T14:23:03+00:00

OP, if you haven't realize this already, TRP doesn't need your empathy.

To say you want to empathise is fine, and commendable on your part. But do not ask TRP to justify it for you. You can take it, or don't, we don't care.

Your points below shows me that you haven't even read the sidebar.

ONS/FWB is mostly what TRP suggested, you can start by lifting and increasing your SMV by improving your status(financially and widen your network), and learn some game. Rule 1 is be attractive, rule 2 is don't be un-attractive. Seems like this is too common, but TRP speficies how to achieve this, and there are a lot of post of telling you what works and what's not working. It has the most information sharing of any other sub/website I ever know. LTR is tricky, but basically skip the single mothers, choose women with the lowest partner count as possible. And don't be affraid to soft/hard next. Marriage is not advisable, specially in the US.
Not our problem
Lift, status, game. All three of this while easy to say, its hard as fuck.
While this doesn't concern TRP at all, this touched a bit with your status. Having an education that can land you the job with high income will increase your status greatly.
Not our problem.
Not our problem.

Here's your disconnect, you only get 2/6 that actually on the sidebar.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-04-23T14:31:38+00:00

1: Finding LTR/FWB/ONS

This is where the red pill will help directly. Cant summarize a whole body of work for you. Some of my stuff on this is here

RP has all sorts of different ways of approaching this.

2: Homelessness

Not RP's problem. This is a political problem. RP isn't a political philosophy.

3: Attractiveness

Jeez, just about every 2nd post on TRP, MRP or RPW (for the girls),

If you want a summary... Go Lift, bro.

You wont regret it.

4: Education?

Again, political. RP isn't a political philosophy. Is a model of male/female behaviours and strategy.

5: Friends (close friends like bff)

Get some. Keep them. A lot of the RP stuff informs male/male interaction as well as m/f.

Its not explicitly designed to do so, but it does assist here.

6: Crime?

Again, political. RP isn't a political philosophy. Is a model of male/female behaviours and strategy.

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Pick one you want to go into in more detail. I will provide my take on that detail.

[deleted] · 2015-04-23T14:15:36+00:00

1: Finding LTR/FWB/ONS

/r/seduction

2: Homelessness

/r/personalfinance

3: Attractiveness

It's covered extensively

4: Education?

What about education is an issue?

5: Friends (close friends like bff)

There is a sub for learning to make friends I don't know it's name because ~~I'm not autistic~~ I can't remember.

6: Crime?

What?

max_peenor · 2015-04-23T14:10:55+00:00

TRP is not a male perspective. It's about women in modern society and how we should deal with sex relations.

Title	I want to empathise with TRP men. Please help me do so.
Author	imaterriblelurker
Upvotes	3
Comments	41
Date	April 23, 2015 12:22 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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