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Debate about whether followers of TRP are psychopaths in CMV

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October 30, 2014
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Title Debate about whether followers of TRP are psychopaths in CMV
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Upvotes 3
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Date October 30, 2014 7:16 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2kt5tn/debate_about_whether_followers_of_trp_are/
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[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

Okay, as off now, your thread at CMV has 140 comments (minus the ones you made), with the vaaaaast majority disagreeing with and disproving your assessment, and the general consensus being the same even our bluepillers here follow: they may be assholes, but having unsavory views and opinions doesn't - in fact, it just can't - make you a psychopath.

My favorite two comments from the CMV thread who sum up your problem in a nutshell:

One:

Then you clearly don't understand what a psychopath is. It's been defined for you multiple times, it's been shown why neither TRP or those examples above are psychopaths, and I'm beginning to question your sincerity here.

Two:

[...] Read the DSM-5. You're just plain wrong; throwing around buzzwords in the hopes to link anyone that disagrees with your own personal ideologies as a psychotic, evil villain.

Ironically, that's indicative of a mental disorder itself.

Edit: Oh, and three:

[...] Posting in this sub requires you to actually be open to changing your opinion. What you're doing here is the equivalent of walking into a debate, announcing your opinion, and then stuffing your fingers into your ears and bellowing loudly over any arguments to the contrary.

[–]insurrectoNeither-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Just because the vast majority state something does not make it correct.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

But in that case the vast majority is right and you are wrong, plain and simple. You have been told over and over again what psychopathy is and is not, and you still persist. Which leads to my next point:

B. You must personally hold the view and be open to it changing.

You definitely violated that rule because if anything is abundantly clear that you not only don't want to have you view changed, but actively refuse to even reconsider your view despite overwhelming arguments that refute it. Instead, what you're pulling of there is the reddit equivalent of "lalala I put my fingers into my ears so I can't hear you." Edit: Heck, someone beat me to it.

You probably assumed that you would be met with approval and support because it was inconceivable that people couldn't agree with your assessment, and now the whole thing backfired.

[–]insurrectoNeither-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You've delved from arguing against my original post to attacking me personally.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Arguable. And I certainly didn't insult you unless you're extremely sensitive.

You, however, have very obviously violated two set of rules today (brigading here, not being open to have your view changed there). So please abstain from rules lawyering here.

[–]insurrectoNeither-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, two people have changed my view.

http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/2kt4kg/cmv_people_who_follow_rtheredpill_are_psychopaths/clont3n

http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/2kt4kg/cmv_people_who_follow_rtheredpill_are_psychopaths/clon614

[–]FollowThisAdvice2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why are you crossposting here when you've been thoroughly debunked there?

[–]insurrectoNeither0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I made both posts at nearly the same time.

[–]FollowThisAdvice2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are still posting here though

[–]insurrectoNeither0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes, it depends on what the person says.

I have already admitted that people convinced me to change my view. Why are you pestering me?

[–]CFRProflcopter( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)[M] 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Please don't advocate brigading.

[–]insurrectoNeither-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I meant that people should discuss the topic (not brigading). Brigading is voting in linked threads, which I don't support.

[–]CFRProflcopter( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you just remove the top line in your post?

[–]insurrectoNeither-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok

[–]CFRProflcopter( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

No, they are not psychopaths. They simply try to emulate behaviors that would be deemed psychopathic in order to get laid. Dark Triad and such nonsense.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Do you ever not circlejerk?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Wow, you sure got me with that elementary reply.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Straight out of your book.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Great comeback my friend, very edgy.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you ever not circlejerk?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

K.

[–]stubingPurple Pillz Here!1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm saving this comment in case you ever pull the "Do you ever not circlejerk?" on some one.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

M_rafay simply said this because he is upset that I criticized another user in another thread. He is petty. Go ahead and save it if you want.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It is not just you, it is bullshit like that you idiots pull on everyone even though it is precisely your culture of circlejerking that drags down debate and people's attitudes towards compromise and fair discourse. I'm frankly sick of TBP type behaviour. This is not TBP.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oh please, don't act like you're some sort of saint. None of you are here to compromise, RPers are some of the most purposefully obtuse people I've ever encountered online. Most of you are not even interested in "fair discourse," you're just here to try to shit on the other side.

This isn't TRP. If you can't stand TBP users, then go back to TRP where no one will criticize you. Either that or take whatever issues you have with TBP up with the mods, but being petty isn't going to make anyone take you seriously.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Oh please, don't act like you're some sort of saint. None of you are here to compromise, BPers are some of the most purposefully obtuse people I've ever encountered online. Most of you are not even interested in "fair discourse," you're just here to try to shit on the other side.

This isn't TBP. If you can't stand TRP users, then go back to TBP where no one will criticize you. Either that or take whatever issues you have with TRP up with the mods, but being petty isn't going to make anyone take you seriously.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Seeing as you are not able to form any type of coherent argument and continue to give me childish replies I'm going to go ahead mark you as a troll.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It is a coherent response. What of what you said does not apply to your side.

I have the evidence of a thread title are you here to change your mind by fizolof to prove it.

[–]FollowThisAdvice-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you even lift?

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do. Thank you for asking. :)

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, how was that a circlejerk? Aren't those exactly things TRP endorses?

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

The user in question(or others like him) spams claims of circlejerk arbitrarily on stuff he doesn't like. I jokingly thought to put it on a post of his when i opened a thread and saw him in it.

I'm going to adopt a policy of not bothering to be better than what the other side chooses to be. The ball is in TBP's court.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I accused one member of circlejerking and you decided to not only get unreasonably upset but also, for a lack of a better term, white knight.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its not just you. please don't be flattered.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So you did the same thing. Wow, gold star for the evening.

[–]stubingPurple Pillz Here!3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it was meant to show him how annoying it is so he would stop.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny, because I accused one member of circle jerking once, and here your are talking as if I go around accusing everyone of circlejerking. Not only is this very petty, it is also incredibly inaccurate.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you. I would like to dedicate this grinding into pavement of the quality of discourse to the BPers who refuse to be better and so don't deserve the same courtesy from me. The sub that supposedly practices contempt and hatred is engaging completely and uniformly reasonably with women as per the rules of the setting. Yet the sub that supposedly doesn't still trounces around as we're insane asylum patients or animals you're poking, completely unprovoked.

TBP brings its culture of bullshit here, they beget the same. Pardon me if I start getting absolutely sick of it.

[–]FollowThisAdvice-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I cant believe even you think this is a coherent argument "You guys made things shitty so I'm going to shit everywhere too and then blame you for it"

[–]insurrectoNeither4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Pretending to be a psychopath is not normal or healthy.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I never said it was normal or healthy. I personally believe it is misguided and childish. But their is a difference between being a psychopath and pretending to be one. One is an actual medical condition, the other is a way to cope with failures instead of getting over them. They can play pretend all they want though, it's their choice.

[–]MakeTheSexyTalk1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your first comment is actually spot on I think. You go off the rails a little here though. TRP isn't about pretending to be a psychopath, but we have noticed that dark-triad types tend to have certain behaviors that to appeal to women. We're trying to understand why those behaviors appeal and how we can use them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

but we have noticed that dark-triad types tend to have certain behaviors that to appeal to women.

Here's my issue. A subset of women are attracted to dark triad traits. TRP is guilty of using this small subset to generalize the female population in the western world.

[–]MakeTheSexyTalk1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've said before that the subset of women that TRP applies to could be described as "most". While AWALT, keep in mind that it's a spectrum and some women are more like that than others. TRP is only "guilty" of giving women what they want. Women on the other hand, are guilty of failing to meet your expectations for them.

[–]powerkickPoly, Bi, Blue, Betafag1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We agree with that statement.

[–]IVIaskeradePurple (Pill) People Eater0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, but on the other hand, it works.

[–]an_absolute_roseRed Pill Boy7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go to CMV and be labeled a rapist and have people actively try to dox you or go through history and down vote every comment, whichever is more convenient

No thanks.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

We already had a comparable question.

Besides, you guys are in great company.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

The persistent attempt to pathologize noncollectivist, noncryptochristian belief systems is the leftist Inquisition.

[–]totes_meta_bot2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

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  • [/r/TheBluePill] That TRP Victim Complex though.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

"Narcissistic" belief that TBP is obsessed with me triggered!

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You have to explain to them what you mean by "noncryptochristian" because there's some confusion about that term.

(I assume by "cryptochristians" you are refering to atheists with a christian background who are nevertheless still adhering to a set of morals that includes a few choice christian positions; therefore a noncryptochristian would be a person who has abandoned these beliefs completely; i.e. someone like you. Do I get a cookie?)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Modern US and Transnational Progressivism are atheistic Christian heresies arising from the Social Gospel of the 19th century and ultimately from Puritanism. Thats why the modern "left" (for lack of a better word) are actually cryptochristians

That's what I meant specifically, but I think a lot of people fit your explanation as well

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

But most leftists support abortions, which really under any kind of moral or ethical system would be banned.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Most evangelicals in US werent anti abortion before the 70s, it was solely a catholic issue, they changed their stance as part of a political strategy to bring more catholics into the christian conservative movement

The social gospel and progressivism are protestant movements, not catholic

The eugenicist wing of the progressives was less christian than the other wing, like Margaret Sanger, founder of planned parenthood, but progressivism on the whole was extremely christian

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I understand that the equality of all souls in God's eyes is an underpinning tenant of progressivism, but your basically saying the people today have no idea of their movements origins? Like child soldiers in a fight that's predated their lives?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe neither the pro choice nor pro life sides today have any idea of the histories of their own ideas, whenever ive exposed a pro choice person to sangers "women and the new race" they have been shocked. I can't imagine any evangelical today knows that evangelicals used to be a LOT different. Most peopel dont know the histories of their own cultures from what I see

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh, In rabbinical Judaism the only form of abortion that was allowed was late term abortion of an impacted fetus. I dont think abortion was so much a moral issue throughout history, and if im not mistakem and i could bem it was MOSTLY made illegal because it was so dangerous, not because of chrisitans, im not married to that though

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just think it's terrible. Like you shoudk be able to vote if your so incontinent that you have to kill your child to get by

[–]FollowThisAdvice-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

which really under any kind of moral or ethical system would be banned

Wat? Nope. Under any ethical system using a rational measure of personality or being-hood, a foetus which has no higher brain function (i.e. pre 20-22 weeks or so) shouldn't be ethically as an entity distinguished from its mother. It has no more ethical agency than a brain-dead body, and turning off life support has the same ethical implications (or lack thereof) in either case.

It only when you start bringing religious concepts like "soul" or hand-wavey obfuscations like "potentiality" into the equation that one can make an ethical argument for opposing mother-requested abortion pre-20 weeks.

[–]FollowThisAdvice-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah you just say some hilariously extreme things sometimes :P

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You don't think there has been a concerted campaign on the left going back to at least Adorno's "the Authoritarian Personality" to pathologize the non-Left? Not to mention of course the use of "psychology" to destroy class enemies in the Soviet Union

[–]FollowThisAdvice-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Personally I think a fundamental inability to empathise with people in different situations to you is pathological. If that is what it means to be right wing then yes, you may have a point.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That had nothing to do with anything I'm talking about

[–]fiat_lux_Red Pillar0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

To a lot of people, your comment implies deliberation, which I'm hesitant to support (conspiracy theories are unpopular).

However, I do see what you mean. Some people take their "inquisition" to absurd extremes. I don't consider myself significantly more selfish than the average person, but the fact that I've said, "there's nothing wrong with putting yourself first" (without mentioning my own behaviours) lead to lectures about how selfish people are sociopathic and altruists are better people, etc.

I don't think it's part of a conspiracy theory, but rather it's just some kids who enjoy playing amateur psychiatrist on a reddit sub using piecemeal comments to diagnose others with mental disorders... without any consideration for whether those people themselves claim that their problems are causing severe suffering or impaired ability to function. One of the main reasons professional psychiatrists (not just amateur ones with a chip on their shoulder browsing the internet for people to pathologize) are so confident with their own diagnoses is because their patients came to them in the first place, an implicit admission of having "a problem" (that or everyone around them, real physical people not online personalities, claimed that these guys were suffering).

What these kids are doing is the equivalent of claiming, "l0lz, I'm sooo OCD!", just because he/she read about OCD in some textbook or heard about it online, when really he/she is just an organized person. Or calling some guy autistic when he's just a bit socially awkward.

[–]powerkickPoly, Bi, Blue, Betafag0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you're gonna put yourself first, that's fine. I put myself first, but I also keep everybody else in mind while I do that. Will putting myself first affect person X, Y, and Z? How will it affect them? Do I need to rethink putting myself first? Is their friendship/etc worth the trouble?

I feel like a lot of the Dark Triad-y things on RP tend to say "just look forward and ignore everyone else around you." While not all TRPers will display heavy Dark Triad tendencies, RP draws those types in and further poisons what I think is a toxic perspective meant to draw in bitter young men with the sole promise of much sex.

[–]fiat_lux_Red Pillar0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're gonna put yourself first, that's fine. I put myself first, but I also keep everybody else in mind while I do that. Will putting myself first affect person X, Y, and Z? How will it affect them? Do I need to rethink putting myself first? Is their friendship/etc worth the trouble?

I am not saying there's anything wrong with you thinking that way. I do as well.

But the converse is old selfishness. It's not a mental disorder.

If we wanted to pathologize everything, even altruism can be pathologized. Under Valliant's categorizations of defense mechanisms, altruism can range from mature (e.g. pleasure and personal satisfaction as compensation for other areas lacking) to pathological (e.g. moral superiority complex). I've known people who left all their shame/guilt, pressure/responsibilities. Just abandoned their friends/families because they couldn't handle it anymore. They devoted their lives to some altruistic purpose to appease their guilt, and one of them explicitly told me this. It hurt the people they left behind and it was a form of escapism. They could very well be clinging to it because it's all they have.

Frankly, by the description a lot of men give about their social anxieties/awkwardness, it seems like they were suffering from a form of pathological altruism rather than selfishness.

Am I justified in using that as an ad hominem in place of actual logical debate/discussion against my opponent's points? No, of course not.

[–]insurrectoNeither1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Psychopathy is not identical to narcissistic or antisocial behavior, although there are similarities.

Considering the fact that TRP encourages its followers to adapt Dark Triad behavior, I think my point-of-view is well supported.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No it isn't, as pretty much all commenters in your CMV thread have pointed out. Psychopathy is a disorder, you can't just "pick up" a disorder.

Whether or not TRP encourages emulating psychopathic behavior can be debated, but psychopathy is a state, not something you can learn.

In fact, I dare to say that you are utterly wrong based on the fact alone that there is a considerable number of redpillers who, prior to joining the manosphere, displayed prosocial behavior up to the point of self-denial in their everyday life (to their own detriment) and only dropped it as a consequence of their changing outlook on life. Real psychopaths usually don't have to be taught how to be assholess.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Psychopathy and ASPD are pretty much the same thing, the only real difference is ASPD requires the patient to have a criminal record whereas the PCL-R doesn't.

Anyway, yeah, TRP encourages users to pretty much emulate psychopaths, but that doesn't mean they're actually psychopaths. Anyone can play pretend at something after reading up about it enough. People don't magically become psychopaths from reading internet forums, they just pretend to be psychopaths from reading internet forums because it makes them feel more powerful.

[–]ReginleiferOnly Zombies want female brains-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny thing is that in this instance I blame the field more than the State. There have been countless abuses in the US using Psychiatry for purposes of profit (Public officials like Judges, Principals, and Officers colluding with local clinics to inflate bed numbers) and personal defense (psychiatric industry vs critics).

While I haven't seen a documented case of political bullshit, the field is just as crooked here.

[–]fiat_lux_Red Pillar-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How easily some people support pathologizing socially aberrant behaviour of "unwilling patients" when just a couple of generations or so ago, people with their shared outlook in life were being pathologized and lobotomized as a result.

[–]ReginleiferOnly Zombies want female brains0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard not to succumb to temptation of using Mental health as a weapon.

[–]DaThrowaway808<('.'<) (>'.')>1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do we have to say anything? You're fighting a losing battle over there already and they probably don't even like us.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

First time I go to a bar ladies asked me to buy them drinks. I say sure. They go and get with her boyfriends immediately afterwards. I had to work an hour for each one of those drinks. They had no regard for me and bilked me. Now I'm a psychopath because I don't immediately answer everyone of my wife texts right away, or go to the gym when she picks fights, or try to fix issues covertly instead of overtly? Piss off. I was that genuine trusting kids and it was ruinous.

[–]insurrectoNeither-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Maybe there's a middle ground between acting like a psychopath and being a doormat?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How would you answer the concept that the women were more psychopathic than men? They intuitively and remorselessly played me, and I've had to harden myself and trust less. I'm not even mad they suckered me, I'm more embarrassed myself. I'm going make sure my son doesn't trust them goils.

[–]insurrectoNeither-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Then those particular women took advantage of you, but that doesn't mean that all women are psychopaths.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So if I 'dread' my wife by leaving the house to work out, or making and executing plans without telling her, or responding to texts when I feel is important (which is abuse to BPers), or try to negotiate my desired outcome from my wife so she can't hamster am I being a psychopath?

[–]insurrectoNeither-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My claim was that followers of TRP are psychopaths. I didn't claim that every behavior is psychotic.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But I'm a follower. Do you even syllogism?

[–]ExpendableOneNeither1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

If you're going to use "diminished empathy and remorse" as your criteria for being a psychopath(pretty sure the word here should be sociopath though) then you pretty much have to include every single person on earth in one way or another. Virtually all feminists, if not a very lager portion of the female population would be, by definition, people who demonstrate diminished empathy and remorse towards men.

[–]insurrectoNeither0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Diminished empathy and remorse are one aspect of psychopathy. There are other symptoms of psychopathy:

  • amorality

  • anti-social behavior

[–]awesomesalsaMr. Ogynist0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP encourages sociopathic behavior and beliefs but that doesnt make its users sociopaths... or psychopaths which is different

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, in the absolutely worst case sociopathy could be argued in a bunch of cases, psychopathy is probably too much.

E.g. if you can empathize with people close to you, friends, family, if you would feel guilty for hurting your relatives, you can still be a sociopath but psychopath not.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath

[–]FollowThisAdvice0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They are mixing up psychopath with narcissistic or APD

[–]RedPill4LYFHeterosexual Red Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Or it could be they just don't value anything about the modern woman other than their body. <-- Sane person.

That's misogyny <-- OP

kek

Not wanting anything to do with selfish entitled bitches for anything other than sex is now the hatred of women? If we truly felt nothing but hatred for women, the only fucking we would be doing with any of them is the over kind. I feel like misogyny gets used so much now that it's becoming a misandric slur uttered by angry women who experience, perhaps for the first time in their lives, what it feels like to be valued only for their utility and not for who they are as a person.

A woman can only shit on a man for so long before he stops caring about what she thinks. If women regularly use their sexualities as weapons to manipulate men to do what they want and also lose interest in those men just as soon as they stop being useful, those men are never going to forget what that's like. They're not going to forget how meaningless their lives are treated by those women. They're not going to forget how meaningless their lives are treated by the many other women who do the same in the future either. After a while, they're going to stop and wonder why they keep blaming themselves.

When women constantly shit on a man like this his whole life, he's eventually going to become red pilled whether by reading the sub or not, and that's because a red pill man doesn't have any patience left to tolerate that insufferable sexist bullshit anymore. He's going to treat bitches like the shit that they are, and he'll treat good women with the respect that they earn, and not a penny more.

[–]insurrectoNeither-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not wanting anything to do with selfish entitled bitches for anything other than sex is now the hatred of women?

Yes, but thinking that the majority of women don't make good friends is misogyny and sexist.

[–][deleted] 0 points0 points0 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]insurrectoNeither-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's the definition of sexist:

prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Redpillers really aren't prejudging women. Most Redpillers have decades of experience with women with thousands of individuals encountered.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a debate. This is you making a false assessment and getting called out for it.

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