Does toxic femininity exist and what does it look like?

gepeg-libre · 2014-06-22T04:13:35+00:00

Sure. It's basically when someone adheres so strongly to a feminine gender identity that it's to their personal detriment. Like a woman who can't say no, can't stand up for herself, feels guilty about having authentic opinions, can't assert herself, and what have you; she's likely to find herself being exploited by shitty people, in abusive relationships, unlikely to get a promotion and so forth. Since there are many different shades of femininity there are a lot of combinations of behaviours that could end up being seriously detrimental.

JediKnight1 · 2014-06-30T23:05:25+00:00

if toxic femininity exists it is telling women to use their sexuality to get resources because that is all they have...it is telling women to hate other women because other women want your man...women being told that it is ok to gossip and be catty. Yes, I do think there is toxic femininity as well as toxic masculinity....Masculine and Feminine mean different things in different time periods and cultures....integrity, being a hard worker and a good person should be across gender lines

DarkCircle · 2014-06-22T00:50:52+00:00

I think be phrase 'toxic masculinity' is a another nonsense phrase, likes many feminists create, that is really designed to smear and shame all men with a broad dirty brush. Toxic femininity is an equally stupid phrase.

If someone is bad, it is not a result of their gender. They may exploit certain advantages their gender gives them to be bad, but if whatever their gender, they would probably find a way to accomplish their goal.

Is it possible to create cultures where people express their masculinity or femininity in negative ways. Yeah probably but I would rather address the underlying causes than deal put the blame on what is between their legs.

sh1v · 2014-06-22T00:53:50+00:00

I suppose it does, and probably looks like when women choose to compete between themselves over a man, or to seek male attention by putting themselves and other women down.

RedPillMX · 2014-06-22T19:34:28+00:00

Toxic masculinity is an exaggeration of the male gender roles, so the “role” models are Rambo, Gordon Gekko, and James Bond and so on for the protector, provider and worldly clichés.

On the same line of thought toxic femininity would be represented by the old Disney princesses.

Violent, unemotional, womanizer, are the main traits of “toxic masculinity”. We have to take a look at each one, and comprehend that this is by no means the prevailing male culture, and the current flood of media about it is based on a complete misunderstanding of how the world works.

Videogames, movies, cartoons and sports do not incite violence; it’s been proven over and over. Drugs, mental illness, family disintegration, social marginalization are the causes of violence.

From the age of 5 to 7 years old, kids are taught that ALL MEDIA is pure fantasy, Arnold and Stallone are actors pumped by roids, Superman is a fairy tale for boys, “The great escape is a really entertaining movie, read the book” and suddenly realize what “base on true…” means. Star Wars … don’t’ mess whit SW, trekkies be dammed.

Parents teach us how to throw our first punches, alongside the “violence is the last resort” chat.

Then why is there violence between kids? Most of the time, violence remains the last resort, and kids after being ignored by teachers, police and parents have to take a last stand. Just look up for the case this week about a kid that stabbed a bully, he reported multiple times, no fucks given. Teens living in high crime rate areas are unlikely to call for help, each time they denounce a drug dealer, the cops go and ask for their take instead of taking them to jail.

Fidoooooo!!!! I yelled and dropped to fetal position after mi dog was run over by an 85 Chevy pickup whit a 350 engine and lifted suspension; I was the tender age of 33.

Of course men cry, we have different priorities that’s it; seems to cold? ok, go and join the current debate between psychologists, anger management gurus, and others about how to deal whit anger, frustration, sadness, the loss of a loved one and other feelings, “release” “rationalize” “forgive” “forget” are some of the options. There is really a debate on what is better for you. So getting worked up on males being “unemotional” is a waste of time, we don’t know what is best yet.

5% of rapists commit 80% of rapes; increased porn viewing causes drops in rape cases in some areas; News Flash: Another politician/actor/athlete caught whit his pants down.

While “men think about sex every x seconds…” is pure B.S. Men do think whit the little head some times. The “goal” of TRP can be said is to have the most sex possible, the path prescribed is no that of following your “instincts”, but of using logic and excerpt control over yourself. TBP, MRA, PUA, and other male subcultures are even more “restrained” , “sex crazed” males are found in the books about “toxic masculinity”, it sells, outside in the real world is a very different story.

There is no toxic masculinity or femininity.

TRPACC · 2014-06-22T16:45:01+00:00

Toxic femininity does exist.

Covering up female abuse and depicting abuse as generally male to female.
Female "Academia" which has very little to do with honest research and more to do with advancing women and demonizing men.
Female run industries that are based around misrepresenting abuse as generally male to female and running intervention services that discriminate.
Relational aggression

etc

There are lots of examples.

Title	Does toxic femininity exist and what does it look like?
Author	imissedaword
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Date	June 21, 2014 11:59 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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