Legal Prostitution takes away women's greatest bargaining tool: Her Pussy

animationphilosopher · 2017-04-25T07:44:30+00:00

When sex is hinted at to sell almost everything today, its funny to me that society pretends to hold some kind of moral authority by keeping prostitution illegal. Paying a hooker must be the most honest trade you can make. Compared to the record labels with all the sex in music videos, the straightforward honesty of prostitution is downright saintly.

And of course, as with all things libertarian, legalising it will make it safer, more available, cheaper, more variety and more quality. Only downside is for the feminine imperative that wants to keep sex as a bargaining tool

untonyto · 2017-04-25T07:06:22+00:00

These women are de facto prostitutes, exchanging pussy for resources under cover of a relationship as you say, but they reserve the term "prostitute" as a shaming tactic to keep men in line because they are special snowflake unicorns. The illusion of exclusivity successfully instilled in their orbiters empowers these women to make demands no prostitute would dare.

The-Peter-Principle · 2017-04-25T10:35:21+00:00

Guys guys guys. You're over thinking things...

1) some women will always whore, most won't (in the common sense of the word). Legal or not it's the oldest "profession" after all. Thus legalizing won't change this dynamic. Most women will not be able to bring themselves to accept this "lowering of their status" in their own minds.

2) stop comparing a fuck with a "real girl" vs a hooker like they're on the same measuring stick. Apples and oranges. Both are tasty for different reasons. A diverse portfolio is a good portfolio!

3) NEVER girlfriend a legit whore. As with the CC laaaaayyydiiizz! They have lost the ability to pair bond with any guy. The things they've been asked to do has given them rhino-hide grade emotional armour.

czatara · 2017-04-25T11:07:50+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I am all in favor of legalizing prostitution, but your conclusions do not match reality.

Women do not become feminine and submissive in this scenario. In fact, Dutch women are awfully masculine, entitled and dominant. Their testosterone levels seem quite high, they are very tall and have big jaws. Also Dutch men, despite their height and good looks, are often pussified to an extreme. I don't really have a good explanation for it, but the facts do not match your hypothesis.

frrunkis · 2017-04-25T11:27:39+00:00

It's legal in Australia. Women's behaviour is still the exact same over there.

summersss · 2017-04-25T09:15:41+00:00

The issue is more complicated than that. In Australia prostitution is legal and women still act like entitled cunts. Most prostitutes here are not Australian, they are from Asia and at the high end they are students from Europe and Russia. It costs about US$100 for a Chinese or Thai girl, about US$300 for a European girl for one hour. It is not common, there are a bunch of brothels in the city but not so much in the suburbs. It does not affect female entitlement.

Compare that to the Phillipines or Thailand where it is an open market and it costs US$60-100 to get a hot young women for the whole night. Most of the girls do not get more than 1-2 clients a week due to the lack of demand. Some of the girls are only there in the hope of finding a foreign (English, American, European or Australian) guy to take them away from a life of poverty. Now that changes female behaviour a lot! On top of that Thai and Phillipino men still act like men. They cheat as a rule, they disappear when she gets pregnant and their general attitude is "no fucks given". Another thing most Phillipino men have that most western men do not - biceps.

So legalising prostitution in Western countries will not do anything to improve female behaviour. The horse has bolted. Women already have their rights in the family courts and with government/ media support. Men already act like needy bitches. You have to remember that WE let this happen. Western men have been complicit in bad female behaviour every step of the way. Esther Vilar made an excellent point when she asked (paraphrasing here) - why do men treat prostitutes badly and look down on them, they are the only honest women in the world. Women hate them because they have broken to code of silence and sell for a reasonable price what other women use for lifelong blackmail. Legalising prostitution will not make women behave better, being alpha is the only thing that makes them behave, and that only makes them behave like children.

drallcom3 · 2017-04-25T12:06:18+00:00

I was in Amsterdam several years ago and partook in the Red Light District festivities. I paid 100 Euros, and got to fuck the hottest girl I ever had at that point in my life. I felt comfortable doing it cause I saw her recent STI screening results on the wall too, cause its legal and accepted there. She was the exact type of girl millions and millions of North American men dream of fucking. Tanned, Brunette, Long Hair, Skinny Waiste, Big ass, Massive Fake Tits, you name it. A classic 10/10 babe.

Been there, done that. This sounds made up. A 10/10 with good service for 100Eur in a tourist ripoff location like the Amsterdam red light district? Highly unlikely.

bolupua · 2017-04-25T05:24:35+00:00

I have a couple plates and sometimes I go to prostitutes because they are incredible nice here but I plan to cut on it.

One of my plates, even if she's past 30 and slighly overweight, it's a much better lay than the best prostitute.

I don't know why, it just feel better even if she doesn't like some things I do to her, lol.

[deleted] · 2017-04-25T13:31:49+00:00

Roughly 8 or 9 years ago I had an Honors Ethics class at University in which our assignment was to determine the most "ethical" society (the class was ~10 people). We got to the point of legalizing prostitution or not, and almost all women in the class were vehemently against it.

I was for it in an outspoken manner and faced verbal backlash and shaming from women in the class, questioning my manhood. The best quote was "Why wouldn't You just go pick up a woman at a bar. Wouldnt' that feel like much more of a compliment, to know that you have value?" - I'm paraphrasing here, but nonetheless each and every woman in that class tried to fuck me over the course of the next few years. I think mostly because I objectified pussy on the spot in front of a group of feminists, saying something along the lines of "It's just pussy. I find no value in obtaining a woman for sex, other than the physical act itself. It is impossible for that to make me feel good about myself because it is just natural pleasure."

kendallb183 · 2017-04-25T06:34:30+00:00

Nothing scares Evolutionary psychologists more than an AI sex robot that is believable to a man. They fear it may very well end the entire way the human race mates for obvious RP reasons.

WithQueso · 2017-04-25T06:59:20+00:00

Redpill men need to infiltrate the government and make prostitution legal.

GroundhogLiberator · 2017-04-25T11:32:50+00:00

somewhat alleviated

Dude, this shit could fix gender relations in a year. Market forces will drive the cost of pussy from "$200 a week, getting nagged, and crossing your fingers that she'll let you fuck her" to "$40 an hour."

I wouldn't partake, but I'd invest my life savings into a brothel in a heartbeat.

DoesNotMatterAnymore · 2017-04-25T12:52:11+00:00

This sub - for some reason - overrates the effect of the legalized prostitution. Here is my take on it.

In the past 2 years i regularly visited girls (more then a dozen, and the same girl multiple times), it's legal in my country. I quited this lifestyle about 3 months ago, and moved on.

Legalized prostitution is like legalized marijuana. Amsterdam is a great example. Is smoking weed is a unique, special or hardly accessible recreational activity in Holland? No, it's common, you have easy access to it whenever you want.

My point is this. If you are into weed, it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, you know how to get it, and you will use it. Same thing with prostitution. Just because it's illegal, don't tell me that if you really want to get some payed sex, you couldn't get some in less then an hour?!

Just because you legalize prostitution, it doesn't means that hordes of men will rush to the hookers. Because they could do this today, but with an obvious risk (and how they can catch you? with a fake ad, maybe). Same thing with weed, if my country legalize weed tomorrow, it's not gonna affect me, because i don't smoke weed.

HitmanHolla · 2017-04-25T10:44:41+00:00

Actually, it's the other way around. Women have cut the power of the prostitute. The availability of premarital sex has plummeted the price of prostitutes all around the world. See for instance (Freakonomics, by Levitt and Dubner, 2005).

Also I think the option of prostitution is a major shit test. If you visit/frequent prostitutes your SMV will drop for any women who knows.

fuckeduphomebody · 2017-04-25T10:54:31+00:00

This interesting. This is what I call the "power pussy". For instance, I know many girls who look me in the eyes while they are with a guy. They probably do the same thing with other guys.

At the beginning I thought they hit on me. I was so stupid because this is not really that. I quickly realize they were just testing their power pussy or their seductive power. They don't really want you, they have already a guy. It's really weird. I hope you feel me.

Maybee they are just insecured. Or maybee thay want to be flattered. Man, I just simply ignore them, and I can feel how made they are.

On the other hand, I didn't experience that with older women. I'm 23 and women around 28-50 do not act like that at all.

So, back to the subject. I ignore women who exercice their power pussy in order to be free. You should not give them that kind of power. They are some women who know what they want. Its better. I'm still uncomfortable with hookers for moral ideas, but what about sex robot in a near future ?

InformalCriticism · 2017-04-25T12:46:16+00:00

The only way something like that would become legal in the states is if there was a coordinated campaign to sell it as a positive for women, even if it's not for all women and it is for all men.

In other words, you have to say, "this will reduce STIs, reduce teen pregnancy, reduce black market-style/dangerous prostitution rings, reduce trafficking of young women", etc., etc.

But, if you so much as hint that men benefit from this, it will die before it even reaches a vote.

MisterRoid · 2017-04-25T10:52:09+00:00

It's legal in many countries already and to me it doesn't seem like it makes a big difference. I have paid for blowjobs with CIM, but I don't think that it's worth it to have sex with prostitutes since they are more likely to want to use condoms than normal girls.

I know people on Reddit -- even on TRP -- have this condom fetish, but most guys I know hate to use condoms and see it as a necessary evil in the beginning of a relationship. Luckily, most girls seem to prefer raw sex too.

oloug · 2017-04-25T14:07:01+00:00

Or you could legalize polygyny. Polygyny was practiced by patriarchal societies in the past. There is a case to be made that polygyny logically follows from patriarchy.

St. Augustine:

"For by a secret law of nature things that stand chief love to be singular; but what are subject are set under, not only one under one, but, if the system of nature or society allow, even several under one, not without becoming beauty. For neither has one slave so several masters, in the way that several slaves have one master. Thus we read not that any of the holy women served two or more living husbands: but we read that many females served one husband, when the social state of that nation allowed it, and the purpose of the time persuaded to it: for neither is it contrary to the nature of marriage. For several females can conceive from one man: but one female cannot from several, (such is the power of things principal:) as many souls are rightly made subject unto one God."

yomo86 · 2017-04-25T14:27:53+00:00

When I was back in Japan doing legal leg work, we had a Chinese fellow with us. Nice guy, actually very non-Asian concerning stereotypes. This guy showed me an article in some Chinese magazine in which it was openly discussed how legal and even state sponsored prostitution might help, as the Chinese have a massive surplus of men which might turn ugly at some point for an oppressive government as the lack of sex equals heightened risk-taking and anger. On top of that porn is illegal there.

However, and this is the actual nugget of gold here, one of the main disadvantages listed was, that many women who are already cat-ladies or left-over-women as they are called, will never get married as a constant supply of sex will never be an issue again.

Turns out the main reason why chinese men marry is to have children and something to show for which is not possible with a dried up former slut.

Paltenburg · 2017-04-25T11:32:25+00:00

Since Tinder, sex can hardly be used by women as a power move anymore.

StarfoxEpiphany · 2017-04-25T07:26:24+00:00

'Humble brag': I

plated a prostitute for 8 months. The cheque was always evenly split. I didn't even know she was hooker at the time.

Then, I did it again with an even hotter girl, by accident as well. This one even paid my rent for me and moved in because I was going through tough times. (She moved in after a Chinese lady didn't pay us for a porn we made). I gave her girlfriend status for this, which was a huge mistake, but she paid for all my shit for a whole year.

Eventually, I introduced the two hookers and we all moved into together while I was getting myself established in the corporate world. Free massages and entertainment all day, everyday.

Anyway, when you rent a hooker, that money goes to the dick she actually wants, or her stupid kids if you get an old one, which I would never put up with.

CrazedHyperion · 2017-04-25T11:04:47+00:00

That's right. If I was to take a girl out on a date, I'd probably spend more than 100E with uncertain results. And I'd show her a good time, too, time and effort are worth something, right? So women are pretty stupid when they decide to become cock teases, because a guy can lose interest in them after several unsuccessful tries, and they indirectly push the guy in the direction of sex for pay.

maniclurker · 2017-04-25T13:48:22+00:00

OP is trying to hamster paying real money for pussy while claiming RP frame.

In reality, paying actual money for pussy just reinforces to women how valuable pussy is.

frisch85 · 2017-04-25T12:09:56+00:00

It's legal where i live and tbh i don't know why anyone would want it to be illegal. It's a very old business and it works. If women want to sell their body, so let them. It's their body.

I also have to admit that i used the service once, shortly after i just became an adult because of curiousity.

The only downside is that some women are forced into prostitution and also there was an establishment that got shut down because it seems that the owner also tried to force an underage girl to work as a prostitute.

What's also worth mentioning is that people don't necessarily get into such establishments only to fuck. I've seen older businessmen sit in the club and drinking a beer and just don't want to be bothered by anyone. They probably also went there to fuck idk, i did never stay that long.

[deleted] · 2017-04-25T14:38:31+00:00

On paper, hookers for men, are the equivalent to state violence for women.

IT's something that we always have as a trump card, to use if we want to. Normally you'd never have to, but it's always there.

She always has the ability for unilateral divorce, or false accusations of abuse/assault.

And likewise, men would always have the capability of busting a nut in a hotter chick.

Having said that, the kind of men who would benefit most from this, would be the least likely to use it, so it doesn't change the game.

you can stack the deck in a mans favour all you want, chicks will still shit all over you.

omega_dawg93 · 2017-04-25T14:44:40+00:00

whether she's your gf, plate, fiance, of even wife...as a man, she views you as a provider. and that's expected.

she wants your TAR: TIME + ATTENTION + RESOURCES.

you can make it abt your magical cock or lizard fast tongue, but run out of money or the motivation to earn it, & watch her ass as it walks away.

to get your TAR, she knows she needs to be your loving companion that FUCKS. what I don't understand is the guy that puts up the TAR but deals with an outright manipulative bitch that rations sex as a control mechanism.

if anything legal prostitution gives THAT guy an option for pleasure when divorce would ruin his life.

SabirahNova · 2017-04-25T15:08:14+00:00

This is probably the only time when TRP and feminists will agree but for different reasons. Being a prostitute basically gives the woman the choice to do what she wants with her body which is all feminism preaches. I know girls who make thousands a month just selling nudes on patreon and snapchat which means they don't even have to have to have sex with these dudes to get the money, same with strippers. It's truthfully traditional women trying to trap husbands who stop this nobody else cares.

ilikemychickenfried · 2017-04-25T15:43:54+00:00

I personally think it all depends on your point of view. Pussy only has the power that you give it, nothing more, nothing less.

linqua · 2017-04-25T17:03:38+00:00

The best way to take away that bargaining tool is to quit being a bitch. Saying you need it so bad you will put up with all this shit for it and saying it's too much for certain men makes all the above sound weak. Sounds like a cop out.

That said, it depends who you are. I agree it should be legal. Why not? But let's be real for a second here, everything comes down to if we want it or don't want it. If we want pussy enough, we will play the game to get it. By playing the game we are agreeing to play, so that means we really want to the play the game more than we don't want to. The game is part of the pussy. Paying for it with no attachments is either no game or a different sort of game. No one really needs sex aside from reproducing. But you won't starve if you don't bust a nut regularly. IMO red pillers should know this like almost number one. If you say you want it so bad you need it, it sounds like a weakness to me, a beta weakness. The easiest way to stop being controlled by that so called bargaining tool is to not let it be a bargaining tool in the first place.

bangbangskeetskeet1 · 2017-04-26T02:00:23+00:00

I mean I'm not saying it's not logical to make it legal (like up in Canada) but probably has something to do with the underage girls snatched from their families , sold into sex trade, forcibly addicted to opioids and the sort . I think soliciting also kinda makes whatever area you're in look like a shit hole. Just an opinion from a guy up in Canada not a big deal no one freak out ! There's always some douchebag that hits me up with some paragraph telling me how I'm wrong crazy ass people get so heated in forums dawg

abbafishhead · 2017-04-25T10:49:38+00:00

Guys who use hookers are losers.

[deleted] · 2017-04-25T09:13:25+00:00

You got your wife, your girlfriend, your baby mama, your side chick, your hoe, your blow job hoe, your group sex hoe, your maid, your baby sitter, your other wife, your holland prsoritue, your thai bitch etc etc etc etc. You cant have THAT pussy even if u pay for million hoes.

Kenny_Twenty · Tue Apr 25 13:36:07 2017 UTC

For a woman to know in the back of her head 'he can just go fuck a 10 right now if he wants', she loses her bargaining chip. Her games will work less and less.

Nah

That's not how it works. You're just making shit up.

adam_varg · Tue Apr 25 9:01:04 2017 UTC

Legal and affordable for anyone with job in my country with hotter women than in netherlanden.

Still have yet to pay for sex, same goes for most men under 50 living here.

Think more, then write.

shadalator · 2017-04-25T11:33:17+00:00

If you have to pay for pussy, you're a loser

7hunderpants · 2017-04-25T10:59:01+00:00

Some thoughts on paying for sex ...

Sex is no longer a loving reciprocated act between two people, it becomes (is) a taxed commodity.

1, If paying for sex is legal the value of sex goes down.

2, If paying for sex is legal ALL women expect 'payment' for sex.

3, If paying for sex is legal only men pay for sex .

4, If paying for sex is legal sex is not reciprocated act of pleasure.

freddymerckx · 2017-04-30T00:16:02+00:00

Hundred bucks a pop though, that can get expensive. And in the US the hottest babes can probably get thousands, so faulk that

lawstuff11300 · Tue Apr 25 5:26:33 2017 UTC

You do realize prostitution is legal in most of Europe and Asia and is not easily available all over the world

Your putting your stupidity d cuck faith has n some bullshit test screen on the wall

If you want to pay for high end tail buy high end tail, it's easy to get in every country on earth you moron

I mean really, unless mommy government is holding your dick can you not do fucking anything you 12 year old bitch

I kill expats for SPORT- you know tlwhat the big scary China government does NOTHING THEY DO NOTHING BECAUSE I AN RICH I KILL CHADS FOR FUCKING FUN

GO MESSAGE CCJ2 MODS THEY CAN TELL YOU

I GOT 4 MAINS BANNED FOR UPLOADING VIDEOS OF ME KILLING AND ROBBING EXPAT CHADS AND NO ONE DIES SHIT

TBIS WEEKEND I AM HAVING A PARTY AND MY FRIENDS ARE INVITING A RICH CHAF OVER JUST SO WE CAN ROB SND BEAT HIS ASS- FUCKER THIBKS JE FANCY

WR GONNA TAKE TURNS PEGGING HIM- HE SUCH A PRETTY PRETTY CHAD GONNA BE REAL GOOD TO FUCK HIS BOY PUSSY

Title	Legal Prostitution takes away women's greatest bargaining tool: Her Pussy
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