What's the point of women being faithful if the men in our lives will lose interest eventually?

AssMaster95 · 2017-05-28T04:37:20+00:00

You're basing this off of one guy. I've been burned by women plenty of times and when I choose to be committed I stay so. Not all People will stay committed. Not men specifically, but people.

dilberryhoundog · 2017-05-28T04:36:04+00:00

Anything any being does on the planet is because of a value proposition. Human relationships are value propositions, be they... sexual, friendship, business, sporting etc, etc. I do business with people because they bring me value, I join sporting teams because of the value they bring to me, I have stayed with my wife for about 10 years because of the value she brings to my life, I have friends that have been a part of my life for about 30 years (I'm 37) because they bring me value.

In your case the first thing I want to say to you is.... A woman's value she can bring to a relationship with a man skyrockets when that man wants to transfer his success to a new generation (ie have children).

The man you were with, probably doesn't need any more money in his life, the value you were bringing was probably - fun, excitement, pussy. When those dried up because you were working hard, the value proposition for him changed, he found others could bring the same value without all the trouble. Rightly or wrongly the value just wasn't there for him anymore.

Women's hypergamy is nothing facetious or nasty or underhanded, it is just them getting the most value out of their gift of fertility, ie its natural. Men's TRP is not nasty or facetious either its just them getting the most out of their gift of testosterone, ie its natural.

I will guarantee a man will NEVER lose interest, if he is ALWAYS getting more value from you than anybody else. The question is, what are you giving? instead of, what am I getting? (your title is basically... wah wah, I'm not getting his commitment anymore)

shitwiththatass · 2017-05-28T03:48:29+00:00

You should be faithful because you agreed on commitment with one another.

You obviously don't value commitment if you caught him cheating and went back to him.

darkwingduckdunn · 2017-05-28T04:11:14+00:00

You have to find a man of character. And be a woman of character and virtuous. People have egos. Age is irrelevant other than it sounds like he is in his prime. You are too until the age where women settle. Dont settle. They all think the grass is greener. Its the same grass.

MrBellsprout123 · 2017-05-28T04:43:36+00:00

I'm gonna throw a bone out here, I'm not a psychologist or an expert in anything, but I believe I have a theory to why women have such a hard time with rejection.

If a woman rejects a man, who cares honestly. The older men get the more money we acquire, the more social status we have, the more we lift the better looking men are. My point is this:

Men have a LOT of flexibility in regards to their SMV because of the qualities in men that women find attractive. And men have A LOT of control over these qualities.

Women see men as a lot of things, a protector, a resource provider, sex when they need it. If I get rejected at 26 years old (which I am at the moment) I don't give a crap because in 3 years i'm gonna be way more jacked than I am now, have more money, and I'm able to control the qualities in myself that women find attractive.

You on the other hand, Men see women as one thing, baby makers, thats it. I don't need you for anything else, I don't need you for attention or protection or resources. You're going to be less attractive at 27 than you are at 24. The point is this:

Theirs very little you can do to control your SMV, you're born with most of it.

That's why the saying here on TRP is:

"Women are born, Men are made."

Because you have such little control over your SMV, women have A LOT harder time dealing with rejection than men, because women know in the back of their mind, when a man rejects them theirs nothing they can do about. And this gives you a feeling of helplessness, knowing that you just weren't born good enough for him, and some other girl was.

A solution to your problem? Aim lower, you're now an alpha widow, congratulations. This is why you wait for marriage until sex. He kept rejecting you, and you kept going back to him, thats YOUR fault.

Terribledragon4Hire · 2017-05-28T03:51:33+00:00

You're a woman?

Learn to love and accept yourself fully and unconditionally. Get in touch with your spirituality and cultivate an attitude of divinity towards yourself.

Learn to maintain a sweet and feminine, borderline submissive disposition to men who qualify for your attention. Those that appreciate it and reward it are keepers, those who try to take advantage of it, break all contact with.

Stay in shape. Not a single pound overweight.

Get fake boobs if you don't have nice ones.

= Be in the top 1 percent of females.

= Qualify for the top 1 percent of males.

= Profit.

Prophets_Prey · 2017-05-28T03:56:08+00:00

So you got burned by this guy that you "loved", so what? We've all had those relationships. If they don't respect your boundaries then you know where you stand with them. Move on, find someone who will.

Billee_Boyee · 2017-05-28T12:42:21+00:00

Can't speak for anyone else, but what I seek in a woman has nothing to do with her career or salary.

Did you make him sandwiches?

JvSOUL · 2017-05-28T04:08:42+00:00

How did you keep things interesting?

Who ran the relationship?

There's a lot here that you may not be explaining fully. It seems like you stopped trying to be sexy for him

irockcrockswithsocks · 2017-05-28T05:56:21+00:00

tldr:

Short fat chick can't keep worthwhile man, looks to trp to help her hamster a good excuse.

UnpluggedMan · 2017-05-28T03:57:19+00:00

What's the point of morality in general, if some people violate it? Does the existence of psychopaths invalidate your distaste for murder?

Azzmo · 2017-05-28T05:42:36+00:00

If you're dating up 15 years you're going to find men who are either never getting married again or who are utilizing their increasing social capital. That's not to say you won't find a long-term partner in that age bracket, but his behavior is hardly indicative of the fidelity any given man is capable of. This is kind of like using Tiger Woods or a football player as models of male disposition.

rockinhard130 · 2017-05-28T06:04:35+00:00

For every beautiful women there's a man tired of fucking her.

Docbear64 · 2017-05-28T03:54:18+00:00

You weren't good enough to keep him or his interest honey simple as that. You chased a man who had options and just like anyone with options he plays the field. If you want a man who's going to be committed to you, you're going to need to aim lower. Someone less committed, less driven, less attractive. Because that's the league of men that are real long term relationship -worthy for a girl like you.

gideon_zotero · 2017-05-28T11:57:42+00:00

but I also care about typical female things like love and relationship stuff.

No, you care about being loved by driven men that have higher ambitions in life that loving you. Stop using generic blue pill language. You know very well that there is no equivelance between being loved by a loser and someone that has his shit toghether.

I can be extremely attractive if I did my hair and makeup more in line with current trends (straight hair and contour) but I'm not very good at it but I have been stunned by the difference it makes when I get it done for special occasions.

You're in sales, you should ALWAYS be at your best, and almost always with your man. Get good at make up and be at your best. Do for the world what you want the world to do for you...no exceptions. This is a cheat everyone uses and if you don't you're just lazy.

I am also not fat

Fatness is not a matter of opinion. Calculate your body fat, above 20% you are fat, no debate or discussion.

The women he's been into lately seem to be the trendy type. The kind who frequently change their hair/makeup have tattoos and are attractive in the "cool" kind of way vs girl next door type and exotic women like Dark skinned asians.

So they are just plain better than you. The basic woman next door is just that...basic. If you can upgrade...of course you will.

So my point is why should women be faithful if men will eventually get bored and lose interest no matter how smart, driven and beautiful you are?

Because you:

also care about typical female things like love and relationship stuff.

couldn't appreciate that a 24 year old woman was deeply in love with him and practically begging him for sex makes me wonder if an older man won't who the fuck will?

Lol, apreciate. This is about options and fun. Reading a book is fun, until you discover TV.

The reason you are faitfull, you love and you dedicate yourself is for you, not for him. You want to feel that intimacy and that dedication. HUmans value things based on how much they invest not based on how much they receive for their investment.

This is also why investing in relationships does nothing for your partner unless they want to love as well. It's like you're at a restaurant: just because you want past doesn't mean he wants pasta as well.

So what does get them to commit...thats basically what you wanna know right? How can you stop a man from ordering steak and have pasta. Well you can't, not without turning him into a pasta loving purse boy. The reality of feminism in a red pill world is that the more successfull and driven you are, the more smarter and more autistic you are. THe reality of your biology is that you want men that are even more successfull and driven than you i.e. even more autistic and smarter...this means that the men you want are miles away from the boy next door and his simple life goals and ambitions.(and to be fair, you are also miles away from being the girl next door that just wants a simple boy to stay home with every night for 30 years).

So now that you understand how fucked you are, solutions:

Be hot, stop pretending you are the "small town girl". You are not and you do not want to be, that fantasy stopped being a option the second you went to college. THis is the price you pay for wanting to be worldly.

Be at your best, be fun, be engaging and stimulate. Be the women you admire...the women that get men giddy and hard. Learn women game. THis is the second best after learning make up. It's always about how they feel. Just like in sales.(and in case you didn't know, this is what good sales is)

Listen to your pussy and stop being afraid of the dick. Your pussy is programed to be a social value detector. follow it and get the most out of each fuck. This is called being a smart whore. Use game to keep men interested and fuck them only after they put their status, job opportunity or money where they want their dick to be. And no, you are not above this, quite the opposite, that sex will feel better because they are investing in your pussy, unlike a frat boy that is just horny. That will feel meaningful.

As you network and find more and more of these meaninfull relationships you will find a dude that you like and you will let him "convince you" to settle down.

JUst like we tell beta boys over here...you know all this, this is all in your brain already you are just supressing it. Stop it. And learn game, learn the power of weakness and submission. Look between the lines and learn the dance of wills.

mr_nepotism · 2017-05-28T04:27:39+00:00

You could say the same for women, but men could care less about how "driven" or "smart" you are. If you look half decent and have a good personality that's all you need.

Losing interest can arise from many factors, but understand that if all your offering is your sexuality then the relationship is bound to fail, and even if you have all these other positive traits, how are you applying them to the relationship? What are you doing for him? What is he doing for you? Do you have any hobbies or interests that align? Or maybe it's the fact that you both like/do different things that make benefits of the relationship worthwhile. These are all things you need to ask yourself.

It's a constant challenge, and if either of you refuses to apply effort and grow then it's better off to come to an end so you can move on.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2017-05-28T06:46:41+00:00

Don't need to overthink this. Simply put, he wasn't attracted to you enough to not flirt with other women or he is red pill/plate spinner kind of guy and he decided he didn't want to stay faithful.

People lose interest, both women and men, and you raise a valid question. If you assume EVERYONE will lose interest eventually, then there's no point on being faithful or at least it always makes sense to have an exit strategy at all times. I think is rather pragmatic to think that these days, commitment means nothing.

Yet, some couples do seem to keep interest over a long period of time. Some people will aim for this scenario, but I don't see how that scenario is realistic in practice.

Entropy-7 · 2017-05-28T09:59:49+00:00

Sort of a no brainer question and answer with not much of anything about anything. The fact is that guys are more likely to be in it for the long haul and get dumped by the girl.

If you are dating a cheating dog, find out about it, then carry on well whose fault is that? If you weren't explicitly exclusive, and had The Talk, and he is still seeing other women, what do you expect?

GEN_GOTHMOG · 2017-05-28T12:45:00+00:00

TRP exists because men are waking up to female sexual dynamics. They come here to learn and self improve.

You came here for neither of these things apparently. As with most women, you've generalised all men based on your experience with just one. So what if he's older than you? This doesn't mean you're entitled to his attention and love at all times.

It seems as though he's not down for commitment, not just yet. Move on.

DeeMooreDeeMarriet · 2017-05-28T14:49:16+00:00

So you're clingy and fat, right?

And men don't care about your "careers" sweetie.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-05-28T15:34:41+00:00

You agreed to the Cock Carousel™ by having sex with him since the beginning.

Now your heart is broken and your innocence is damaged.

Why did you allow this?

It seems to me you allowed things to be casual so he just used you as long as he enjoyed it and then left.

Where was the effort to lock him down?

What effort did you make to manipulate him to interact with you positively?

All I see is a lazy approach of "open your legs and hope".

You should go to RedPillWomen and talk with them. They seek to refine the feminine arts so you can actually be a good Firstmate to a Captain.

As the Firstmate the Captain saw you as lazy... women cannot be lazy and loved, you must earn you love.

Feminine polarity is as active as Masculine polarity but of opposite flow direction.

Feminine polarity is not actually passive to the point of having no energy.

You are like a magnet that has lost it's attractive capability... women need to be attractive and in more ways than the superficial.

Develop the attractive feminine polarity brain.

Female Game is very important within a LTR and that requires true feminine polarity.

Let's try this...

https://youtu.be/7ezz0AeC9vc

...it's really a different direction for you because learning this will give you a deeper understanding of how masculine and feminine polarity actually work at a deep level.

You might dislike it because Mark Passio is not gentle, but give it a try.

johngalt1234 · 2017-05-28T05:22:22+00:00

That's what Marriage was historically about. The covenant to be through thick and thin is required along with his sense of honor.

In order to raise children to be well adjusted adults.

stephcurrythrowaway · 2017-05-28T06:34:48+00:00

You went back to him when he cheated?

JohnIan101 · 2017-05-28T09:46:05+00:00

While relationships do end, what about the time together? There may be joys to be had that otherwise wouldn't.

Like a good sandwich. When made and for awhile, it will be (if proper) tasty and enjoyable. But it will go bad unless eaten.

You don't avoid sandwiches just because they'll all go bad. You enjoy them while you can. The same with life; everyone will die.

Sorry to hear you got dumped. But this too is life.

The point?

To live and gain memories. And hope that you mave more positives than negatives.

Irockcrockswithsocks, you're trying to quantify something that should be taken as life experience and nothing more.

Not the end game. You picked the wrong guy, just that. It happens.

MisterRoid · 2017-05-28T12:18:08+00:00

Did have have to use condoms when having sex with you? If so, maybe he got tired of it and wanted to have real sex instead.

askmrcia · 2017-05-28T12:25:45+00:00

From my perspective of this story it sounds like you're dating a guy far out of your league. You say you're average yet dating (trying to) a guy in his prime and making tons of bank. Oh and by the way it seems that this guy has the looks to pull exotic Asians.

If that doesn't sound like you have crazy high standards then I don't know what does. Women like you, I feel no sympathy for. How many guys in your past did you flake on or just brush them off as they don't even exist because you are chasing some guys that seems to be perfect?

So my point is why should women be faithful if men will eventually get bored and lose interest no matter how smart, driven and beautiful you are?

This question is easy to answer. You can bring more to the table and stop chasing the top sales guys who can date models if they wanted too. Or you can go for those guys but just don't be salty when they sleep with better looking women then you.

BrewandRun · 2017-05-28T15:00:17+00:00

Maybe its not about physical appearance as to why he's not interested in a LTR.

newName543456 · 2017-05-28T18:46:04+00:00

why should women be faithful if men will eventually get bored and lose interest no matter how smart, driven and beautiful you are?

Let's clarify:

HE got bored and interest in YOU.

Either make sure you're more interesting, or, if you already are plenty interesting, be on a lookout for people who think grass is always greener on the other side, as they will get bored with you regardless.

coolasice007 · 2017-05-28T19:17:40+00:00

I'm willing to give you a benefit of a doubt that you're as great as you say you are. Some people will just never value what you have because their interest is elsewhere. Do you go to a concert because the tickets are free? No you go because you enjoy that artist or type of music. Free will not have me going to a country music concert. Cut your losses. Just know you're not special, millions of people are going thru the same thing as you read this

900_year_old_vampire · Sun May 28 3:30:33 2017 UTC

any man actually worth marrying doesnt give two shits if you fuck around or not, we are just going to drop you when you get boring. the only motivation for you to be faithful is to try to ultimately trick some delusional faggot with money into literally putting a ring on your finger. and even then, if hes the type of person who actually desires marriage and monogamy, hes a fucking loser and you didnt have to be faithful in the first place because he would have never noticed anyway. and even if he did, he'd probably forgive you. happy trails

Cunt_Robber · 2017-05-28T14:52:36+00:00

Thanks for spending a whole paragraph describing your looks. What does he look like though? It sounds like he's in his prime now, like you were when you were in college, and he's making the most of it. If he has options he won't commit. Or he wants to ride his CC before settling down with you. It sucks but like it or not, theres not much you can do other than try to dread him. Now you know how college-aged men feel about the value inequality.

[deleted] · 2017-05-28T13:20:38+00:00

I'm just impressed by the help and solid advice folks are giving you. Especially since this sub is supposed to be filled with women haters..

LenguaNegra · 2017-05-28T15:58:56+00:00

AWALT. Look at the way this cunt describes him. She doesn't mention anything about him as a person but:

"He's very driven and in sales I am also quite driven and in sales. He is more so than I probably because testosterone. I care about money and success"

After that it's all "me me mee"

You weren't deeply in love with him, but with his success.

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