IOI's - Your calibration tool.

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May 30, 2018

Picking up on indicators of interest (IOI) is the primary calibration you should be aware of when opening or gaming a woman.

If you're oblivious, you're stepping on your own dick both coming and going....

If she IS throwing ioi's and you miss them, then she'll quickly assume you're either socially retarded or just not interested... so, she's gone.

If she does NOT send any ioi's your way and you continue trying to game her... you're a creep who can't take the hint that she's not interested. Again, gone.

That's why spectrum guys have such trouble... they don't have the skillset to subconsciously "read" other people. So the road is long and treacherous. Same thing with different cultures/languages... the nonverbal cues can be hard to pick up.

Google has pages and pages of IOI's if you need to bone up.

Game comes from within your own frame. It's intrinsic. Everybody has some basic level. But you can learn, you can get better, to do that, however, you need a calibration tool.

That calibrator is reading IOI's.

Women are not overt communicators. They won't come out and tell you your approach was stupid, or hilarious, or turned them on so much they were leaving a trail like a slug back to your place.

Overt communication only appears when she's exhausted all of the covert/bodylanguage/nonverbal cues at her disposal and you still don't get the hint. This is a bad thing. You're doing it wrong and missing a huge amount of subtextual communication if you force a woman to talk like a man.

So, reading her "signs", both positive and negative, need to become your meter of when to push on or back off or duck and cover because the pepperspray is coming out.

So, her responses are part of the game, but it's reactionary to your leading moves.

It's your job to put it out there, but it's also your job to read the environment and roll it back in if need be.

That's also why you can't get good unless you do many approaches... a sample size of 3 women have way too many variables to analyze and critique. (maybe all three just got out of a rape support group meeting and hate men, for example - does that mean your strategy is wrong if these three all start screaming?. No.) You need to increase your demographic so your sample becomes representative of the general population.

To have a well functioning calibration tool you must use it frequently.

You'll also find the more you tune your calibration tool the more your other tool gets used.

I do want to stress the idea of leading/ being aggressive/ on the offense, though.

Like a chess match.

Your job is to try get all her pieces off.

So you take the lead. You make a move, see how she responds, then use that info to make another move.

You attack, she reacts.

Use your tools.

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Title IOI's - Your calibration tool.
Author RogerNorvell
Upvotes 126
Comments 29
Date 30 May 2018 05:47 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]Alpha_Jedi67 points68 points  (0 children) | Copy

Life is a contact sport. The more people you contact, the better you'll do. Cheers.

[–]Zech4riah17 points18 points  (8 children) | Copy

Only "not interested" sign you need is she walking away. Don't even try to interpret negative clues because then you will exit many sets prematurely (the girl may have been shy, anxious or giving you RBF to see if you can handle it).

You can burn sets to the end without it getting weird or retarded as long as you do it in calibrated and fun way.

[–]chrisname17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

I hate when girls give me radial basis functions. I'm a linear regression man.

[–]redpill_quest6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

ah ML and TRP jokes. I see you're a man of culture as well.

[–]tranquil_af2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have a statistics exam tomorrow.

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You sound like a guy who would ejaculate into pants right away if the girl actually gave you a radial basis function riddle to solve.

[–]chrisname7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, I've tuned my hyperparameters so that doesn't happen any more. I'd stick my support vector right in her hyperplane.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Disagree, the more you approach the more you pick up on the subtle more nuanced signals of interest or disinterest.

So often i see guys start off great and talk themselves out of it because they are oblivious to these signals. When your'e aware of them you can adjust your behavior accordingly to yield a positive outcome.

If you're waiting for them to walk away, it's already too late.

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is true on more advanced level.

But 95% of the guys doing game can go with my advice if they want to improve and avoid premature exit from the sets (and get better results).

EDIT: It's not even my advice, it's the advice of many successful PUAs.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed, in order to reach that point your advice holds merit.

[–]anish61016 points17 points  (9 children) | Copy

But the question is what are those IOIs and how to identify them?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Google has pages and pages of IOI's if you need to bone up.

You can also find plenty on this sub, use the search bar.

He wants you to find them yourself.

[–]Yabadababoobs8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, just fucking no.


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

if you really ask this question you deserve to be banned for not reading Sidebar.

[–]the-mundus17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Im kinda new to Reddit. When you say the sidebar you mean all the post on the actual sidebar or a book named the red pill sidebar?

[–]nomogoodnames7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

How likely is it that somebody had a book called "The RedPill Sidebar" published, versus it meaning you read the sidebar?

[–]the-mundus3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Actually, there was a post here with lots of ebooks, and one of them was called The Red Pill Sidebar, hence the question

[–]nomogoodnames2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read both. To answer your question.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

This really is a such a giant leap forward socialy, and even profesionally. Learning to "Read the Room" is a lacking quality I see so common in day to day issues around me. The contextual clues that are so small like IOIs, are where the saying. " 70% of language is communicated by body language."

Such a huge part of game and frame and progress that I get so worked up. Damn near impossible to not look at your best friend like an incel idiot when you see him gaming a HB and not noticing the horror of him stomping on his own dick. A bit funny at times tbh.

Social awareness, emotional awareness. Such vital things to tune into, and such a lacking trait. Great post OP great too see good material like this. Just got back and this place is a asktrp/incel overflow.

[–]AloofusMaximus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I read "The Definitive Book of Body Language" a few years ago, and even in there they advocate going out and people watching different interactions. It's a pretty good exercise, and somewhat amazing how much you can learn/pick out.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

The most common IOI that I receive is eye contact. I am lucky enough to have eyes that tend to suck women in and I have been able to initiate many conversations thanks to them, and it's not uncommon for me to be approached and complimented. If I notice someone catching a gander I initiate a game of chicken; seeing if she'll break before I do, and if she'll return a subtle smile. It's fun and a great confidence booster, especially with the ones that appear to be embarrassed.

[–]1CCJ225 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

"leaving a trail like a slug, back to your place" Brilliant

[–]rigbed7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

And if you’re attractive enough you get raped by women

[–]throwawaygarbageacc1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have difficulty when it comes to judging whether or a behavior is an IOI when it comes from a girl who has a very outgoing personality. I have a new coworker who has given some clear IOI's (touch, long eye contact, proximity) but she does seem to be the flirty type and has been fairly attentive to other male coworkers, though not physically. Much harder to decipher when it's not a casual setting.

[–]no921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Those are IOIs whether the intention is social or romantic.

As long as it's not a coworker it's an invitation for you to ask them out. If it's a coworker then it's an invitation for you to get fired for sexual harassment.

There's nothing to decipher at this point, you're overthinking. If a girl is touching you, she's giving an IOI.

This is why I prefer to just approach anyone I'm interested in regardless of IOIs (but if I'm given IOIs, I will usually approach 100% of the time to see the reason and how the conversation goes). The worst that can happen is you get spectacularly rejected, and honestly that's funny to me anyway.

[–]Sumsar01-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can't always rely om ioi's for example, im usually in an inviorment where i have to game these semi-autistic mathematician and Physicist types. Good luck getting a lot of ioi's out of them or at least anything not very suttle.

[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice post.

Can you give some examples of IOI's that men usually miss?

[–]RaughKee-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Chess analogy, we now crown you "King of the Nerds."

[–]MTNSC1-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know....the number of young people playing chess in 2018 has to be below .000000000001% and negative infinity for women.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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