Reformed Chad here - this is why you should understanding of "incels"

LooksMatterToWomen · 2017-11-08T08:49:27+00:00

The anger from incels comes from knowing they're so unattractive that years of dedicated self improvement will only make them "good enough" to be a betabux - settled for, not genuinely desired. The root problem isn't the lack of sex, but knowing they'll never be desired. Game/PUA tactics and lifting/style can only improve a guy so much. If he's in decent shape but still a "2", the best he can ever do is get rich and use game to be an effective beta bux with a gold digger. No real sexual desire on her part. No real emotions. Just business. That's the best he can get, and you have to admit it's a pretty hollow reward for all the years spent on self improvement. Game/Redpill has certain basic attractiveness requirements for it to work well, and omega males don't meet them. There comes a point where a guy's SMV is so low that trying to improve isn't even worth it.

Makonar · 2017-11-08T10:04:07+00:00

Of course incels, and most men want a woman that cares for them. But the truth is, most women don't care. Do you, as a chad, think for a second, that this woman would take you in if you were an incel? No she would not. Incels know this, and this is what frustrates them. Everybody wants to have somebody caring for them, that is how people are - we flock together, we take on partners and we raise children, because that is in our nature. Unfortunately, modern society doesn't care for out nature. It's not that mgotw don't want companionship, partnership and caring for one another, it's that mgotw see that this is an unattainable dream for most men, and that is safer and better in the long run for most men, to opt out of modern society, because of how it views and treats men.
There are probably no mgtow who would refuse to have a partner, that is everything we think a partner should be, but let's face it, such partners don't exist and probably never existed. Men were chasing a dream, and too many settled for less our of fear and pressure, and way too many paid the ultimate price for it.
We here ,and not telling incels to get a hooker because women are not worth it, we here understand that their frustration is because deeply in them, from the lack of understanding that they are good people, but due to mostly physical defects, they are what society deems unworthy. Incels need to first be at peace with it. It's how the society works, and it's not just the incels who are suffering, even physically more attractive men, get the bad end of the stick from society, and that accepting that is a key to letting go of anger and coming to terms with it and living, because life itself is worth living, not just only if you are handsome, rich or powerful.
Prostitutes are not only used for sex, many of them can fill the void of compassion and caring in their life. If they receive it, it may help them to cope with reality and to let go of frustration, anger and sadness. I'm sad to say, but it's all about hormones and chemicals in our brain. The body doesn't care if the rush of endorphins comes from a year long relationship or an hour of a woman who is paid to hold you and whisper soft words into your ear. If such a service would be freely available, and not shunned by the society, and men laughed at for taking advantage of it, many men, incels and not would be much happier in their lives.
Simple statement "get a hooker" comes from a good place, and any men should actually take it into advisement. Since this is what biology wants, biology can get it, and men can go about their ways like never before.

Abraham_Goldberg · 2017-11-08T08:34:40+00:00

I agree with this 100%.

I think they get a little too crazy with shit like millimeter differences in jaw line but I know their pain.

If these women who shame them and tell them to just take a shower and all that stuff really wanted to help them and prove them wrong that looks dont matter its simple to do. Have them take pictures of themselves as best looking as they can be in public places, make dating profiles for them making up all sorts of "great personality" traits, making the most irresistible dating bio ever (I mean they would know what women want being women right?). Show them the flooded inbox and how personality got them messages instead of looks.

It wont happen though. The blue pillers know it defies reality.

anonprivateer · 2017-11-08T09:11:11+00:00

R/ihavesex

RedPillMGTOW · 2017-11-08T11:34:27+00:00

BULLSHIT+TROLLING+HUMBLEBRAGING=REPORTED

slyn69 · 2017-11-08T08:16:48+00:00

I’ve never thought I was better than an incel or better than anyone at all really. I’ve felt love and care from women but those same women have also hurt me worse than anything or anyone else ever has. I think most mgtow have had similar experiences and that’s why we end up shutting off our hearts and just becoming pump and dump robots. Most men don’t start out being mysoginistic players who only use women for sex. Women CREATE those men through their remorseless sociopathic behaviour.

UglyPrince2000 · 2017-11-08T08:09:53+00:00

How much you bench tho?

jazztaprazzta · 2017-11-08T12:50:17+00:00

I agree with you. However, IMO, there's no need for all that drama. Just a reminder that a few thousand years ago 17 women reproduced for every 1 man. Out of 17 men, 16 didn't have children. Most of them probably never touched a woman during their lives, except their mothers (and even that's not too certain, considering psychohistory). That 1 successful male was the stone-age Chad. The 16 other men were the stone age Incels.

The same dynamic. Existed forever. In fact, in our age things have greatly improved for incels (in the last 2-3 thousand years at least) - now much more men may have kids. But yes, many of these men will be "compromise men" - will be taken by women only as means for financial support, while their women fantasize about Chads. The same dynamic, all over again. That's how the World rolls. No need for drama. Many of us (including me) are "compromise children" - children from families where sincere love was lacking, because the man was not an alpha. But the woman was not an alpha either (women have hierarchy ranking too!). That's how the World rolls, no need for drama.

ilieknothing · 2017-11-08T10:09:22+00:00

and incels see females act a certain way around guys and incels get nothing

frikabg · 2017-11-08T10:33:24+00:00

I don't get why everyone is hating on incels at this point... They have their believes and do with their lives what they think is right and so do we so why does it matter? This whole race that is going on right now where everyone is tripping over to kick the already dead horse... I see no point for that. So there was some sub reddit who had some horrible human beings ? Big deal! If we use that logic the incels subredit is not even in the top 10 of subreddits that we should care about. I have never been there to my knowledge but chances are i will not be kicked from there after i comment just because i am active in mgtow which can't be said for the huge majority of subreddits here. So why the hate?

ghostingthrowaway · 2017-11-08T08:12:46+00:00

fearganfadhb · 2017-11-08T09:26:57+00:00

I agree, but I can't understand why they sit on it and let it fester and control their whole lives. If someone told me I could never drink beer, eat pizza, play football or whatever ever again I would be upset temporarily but I would move on and find something else to do. There is no bigger waste of time than wallowing in self pity about something you can't have.

I disagree that they can never have a woman care for them. A 9/10, ok probably not, but that is the case for the vast majority of men, not just incels. Similarly, I doubt an incel would ever want to care for a 3/10 women. It's all relative.

Smitty6 · 2017-11-08T12:31:15+00:00

Yea incels chase after what no man in a relationship gets. Real genuine love. My friend is now dating this 30 year old single mom, I told him to watch out for those girls. He says oh no man this girl is different we really connect. She even says that her favorite thing is blow jobs. I'm like every guy likes blow jobs she's trying to get your commitment. He's fucked. There's nothing I can do.

Rolando_Mierka · 2017-11-08T12:56:04+00:00

This is suicide fuel for me. I wish looks didn't matter but they do.

ManIsWalking · 2017-11-08T14:12:25+00:00

You inceltears losers need to grow the fuck up, honestly.

mgtownigga · 2017-11-08T13:08:37+00:00

seriously. IME, a lot of men would be happy with one good woman, but they can't even get that. It's devastating

Takakazu_Kinashi · 2017-11-08T11:20:54+00:00

1/10

RedPillMGTOW · 2017-11-08T11:33:14+00:00

Nice b8 m8. r/thathappened

NordHamsteri · 2017-11-08T11:59:51+00:00

Incels are not just missing sex. They cant make friends because hanging out with other incels reminds them they are incels. Superficial work life benefits good looking people so they wont get work either. Whats left?

Thats why women want that top 5% chad so their kids wont turn into incels.

DereIzNoPoint · 2017-11-08T15:24:44+00:00

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BokehClasses · 2017-11-08T11:14:40+00:00

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Abraham_Goldberg · 2017-11-08T11:35:07+00:00

We don't reject incels because of their lack of success or "punch down."

They think in the way that they do because their values are warped, and they refuse to adapt their values to their reality. MGTOW is men adapting their values to reality in order to provoke a change within themselves, and hopefully that change will cause good effects like the situation getting better. If we can't make it better for the world, at least it will be better for ourselves. And outside change cannot happen without an inside change anyways!

your_inner_asshole · 2017-11-08T12:19:48+00:00

Nobody has to be incel unless they really want to be: make money, fuck hoes. I know a older dude who is incel here in Canada but he goes to the Philippines a few times a year and dips his wang day-in and day-out, and he's smart too because he's never married one and brought her back home.

a17c81a3 · 2017-11-08T12:35:54+00:00

Incels should understand that the second a Chad fails in any way or gets a damn fever the woman will turn cold towards you.

There is no such thing as female love.

spaceTiberius · 2017-11-08T12:45:02+00:00

Exactly, bashing incels is a waste of time and energy. They are stumbling about in darkness, wondering why, and what woes are causing this. Most of us would just snarkily remark "But lul we told you why it is so!", it is hard to take anything in when writihng in agony, and kicking them around will only sediment their world view that everyone and everything is against them. They need to have a time and place to vent, we all do. Wouldn't it be beautiful, watch them cast of the shackles, find themselves and have them find their own paths in life?

jotaro_kuj0 · 2017-11-08T12:45:39+00:00

Feels sad man.

micestorff- · 2017-11-08T15:48:01+00:00

meh chad life its a huge improvement regardless if you are thirsty or not.

free thots its just one of the many free stuff you get for being a chad, so TRP has some reason of why its good to "be like chad" just its too pussy focused.

Abraham_Goldberg · 2017-11-08T15:49:50+00:00

This was one giant fucking humble-brag, why isn't this guy banned?

Anyway, the only coherent point the OP made in this entire retarded post is.

that's exactly what bashing incels is; it's punching down

Abraham_Goldberg · 2017-11-08T07:37:48+00:00

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TheOldEskimo · 2017-11-08T08:01:14+00:00

I agree Op.

ransay3277 · 2017-11-08T15:52:02+00:00

A caring female is what incels want, which they have never had.

Correct. The problem here is the problem of projection. (Assuming a woman will find attractive in you, what you find attractive in a woman.) The two are worlds apart. Most guys who have been on this sub are acutely aware of this. And sadly, this is one of the most basic concepts that blue pills don't get.

DereIzNoPoint · 2017-11-08T16:01:11+00:00

Great post OP. Why did you stop chasing women?

TheChestGuy · 2017-11-08T16:04:11+00:00

are there any incels here on this thread? i want to learn more about it. i've only ever heard it mentioned before when trying to redpill someone else. "go back to r/incel ya loser"

frankly i think people needa fuck off, especially after hearing what incel stands for

fasdfsdfasdf · 2017-11-08T17:31:05+00:00

man, now I remember why I don't come here anymore.

This is simply a place for dudes to try and one up each other through feminine humblebragging, and to talk about their dick. This place really is feminism for men.

If I wanted to talk about dick and how awesome men are, I'd go to the gym where gay guys hook up. You all are fucking trailer trash jokes. No wonder feminism is winning. You're fucking diseased perverted cartoons.

Mefic_vest · 2017-11-08T17:35:10+00:00

This is truth, thanks for sharing.

Fyodor007 · 2017-11-08T17:58:16+00:00

I disagree with your premise. Why should I be understanding of an incel, or a feminist, or a BLM zealot, or a communist sympathizer or a baboon?

There are innumerable groups out there that I don't think about at all. They aren't relevant to my life. I see them in passing (like with posts like this) and I still have no feelings about it at all.

The incel flood to this sub is an annoyance to me at best. Not because I have an opinion on their sub being banned, but because now there are more trolls around and more irrelevant content to filter through. I don't care who lurks here or what they think, but the idea that they are somehow related and by that relation are somehow our problem is a load of weight I have no interest in carrying. Don't try to make MGTOW into some incel plan B. It isn't that. Don't encourage that, please.

mydikishomofobik · 2017-11-08T18:19:56+00:00

Nobody is entitled to be "desired" by the opposite sex (or the same sex for the gays). That goes for both men and women. Ugly chicks shouldn't get pissy cause they don't get treated like supermodels. 55 year old women shouldn't be mad that they don't have men lining up to drink their bathwater like they used to when the were 19 year old cheerleaders. And men shouldn't feel entitled to have every woman creaming their panties and having multiple orgasms just from looking at them. Be realistic, people.

Reformed Chad here - this is why you should understanding of "incels"

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Title	Reformed Chad here - this is why you should understanding of "incels"
Author	Abraham_Goldberg
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Date	November 8, 2017 7:30 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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