Muslims proselytizing on this sub-reddit

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2017-01-11T18:21:07+00:00

Well said.

I hate it when bozos post about how Muslim women have it hard and Muslim men live like kings.

If that was true, they wouldn't be fleeing their countries.

lostapwbm · 2017-01-11T19:43:47+00:00

MGTOW gets all kinds of proselytizers.

Muslims.

Christians.

White Nationalists.

Feminists.

Tradcons.

NoFappers.

I'm flattered that so many people expend time and effort to get me to come work on their various ideological plantations.

givecake · 2017-01-11T16:50:53+00:00

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StaySingleStaySane · 2017-01-11T17:58:32+00:00

I assume they're just trolls attempting to discredit MGTOW by littering our gathering places with outlandish topics so they can point to us and go, "see all this crazy shit?"

Cetameta · 2017-01-11T18:50:45+00:00

It's bad enough that Tradcons try to claim MGTOW exclusively.

Now that they've successfully waged a 'screw the non-Republicans' campaign they've moved on to a 'screw the non-Christians' campaign.

Who knows fellow MGTOW? By the time they're done you might all be marching down to a local church and volunteering for a Traditional Cuckservative life of slavery and ignorance.

mioelnir · 2017-01-11T18:51:43+00:00

Anyone who has done even basic research into religion knows Islam is false doctrine: it is a form of government and control. Islam is a "religion" created by a sex addict (Muhammad, false prophet and pedophile.) It is not something a sane person would follow. Islam is coercion. Suggesting that Islam is a solution to [1] Western men being feminized, [2] women controlling more public policy, or [3] the proliferation of promiscuity among women is stupid. Islam sincerely disgusts me, and their proselytizing is weak. Looking for a magic bullet? The solution is:

Men need to grow up. Say no to women. And start punishing whores. Done.

geocitiesuser · 2017-01-11T19:44:13+00:00

I'm no apologist, but maybe there's an influx of muslim men because they are dealing with equally strong societal fuckery that is pushing them towards MGTOW.

I've seen lots of muslim posts lately, but no one has tried to convert anyone that I see.

eja_cool8 · 2017-01-11T22:13:13+00:00

Muslims eh?

heats up the oven

KingCanuck3 · 2017-01-11T22:54:43+00:00

Moslems proselytize everywhere. Tag and call out.

I hope they are aware that some (at least I do) want them in gas chambers. and no, I'm not joking. Get out of my country.

Dragonair476 · 2017-01-11T23:05:05+00:00

Pork, it's what's for dinner!

gods_bones · 2017-01-11T19:12:49+00:00

You people just love to "other" the people who are just like you don't you?

It's simple: Muslim men live in a culture where marriage is imposed on them, much like American men had to back in the day. Today, the entire world is waking up to the fact that marriage and kids are not their only option in life. No essays necessary about cultures you know nothing about.

You don't own MGTOW. Hell, your demographic wasn't even the first to imbibe the red pill and see women for what they truly are. You have zero claim over who has access to this lifestyle choice or why they choose to GTOW.

Amnesia2508 · 2017-01-11T21:16:31+00:00

I'm not a Muslim and I take a syncretic approach to religion and spirituality, but there are more Muslim sects than just the Shite/Sunni's that seem to be at each others throats (and everyone else's) in the news everyday. There are also Sufi and Ahmadi Muslims but you will never hear much about them because they don't fly planes into buildings.

2017-01-11T22:57:40+00:00

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FleshPanda · 2017-01-11T23:03:02+00:00

Good post op.

ikhwan_arif · 2017-01-11T23:21:31+00:00

If there are any Muslims trying to convert mgtows, challenge them. Many muslims are sheeps, they can't reason well enough on various issues to be taken seriously, that's why they fall prey to terrorism. But mostly, muslim men just couldn't care about anything except to just live their lives.

Wise2TheLies · 2017-01-12T06:15:52+00:00

Islam is a cancerous death cult founded by a war mongering pedophile and should banned from the entirety of humanity.

897789789432 · 2017-01-11T21:26:37+00:00

So what you are saying is that people can make a choice between having a wife, maybe even multiple wives, and be called a "beta" male by some anonymous internet loser, or they can win internet points with some asshole who clearly doesn't have their best interests in mind. Who gives a shit what you think? The results are what count, and in that sense, it's clear your argument is nothing more than shaming and words.

Are you fuckers secretly feminists trying to convince us to go into Islam?

I-am-the-lul · 2017-01-12T03:24:21+00:00

In some cases, the reason they come to the West is because the Muslim wives want to be able to divorce their husbands and collect the alimony without the social stigma they would have suffered in an Islamic country.

clungey93 · 2017-01-11T19:36:33+00:00

Have you got any examples of this 'proselytizing'? I've only been here for a couple months but I haven't seen any real positive posts about Islam, only negative if anything.

I want to make it clear that anyone who joins Islam for this reason is a beta male.

Fuck following any religion in my humble opinion but why are you trying to call out people for being beta's? We are going our own way not yours. Also you say that 'non-arabic' muslims are viewed with disdain, which is just false - it's an ideology not a race - if you become a fully paid up member then you're generally accepted. There is massive racism or sectarian divides across the middle-east in general though - the dichotomy of white vs arab isn't that important when you consider; Iran vs Saudi, Saudi funding fundamental sunni islam vs Iran's shia (hezbollah, assad etc), Turks vs the Kurdish, Lebanese Christians vs Palestinians, Israel vs everyone etc etc. You get the point.

I agree with your message in terms of 'don't join Islam' because it is in no way the answer to any of your problems. However at the same time, I haven't really seen anyone supporting or promoting those ideas here so I can't help but think it's more of an insecurity rather then an actual threat to the MGTOW community.

bastardstepchild · 2017-01-11T23:40:42+00:00

Wow, good thing points all. I hadn't thought about that aspect of Islam.

srtor · 2017-01-12T02:39:23+00:00

Looks like OP is bullshitting. Post some links showing this is happening in this subredddit.

moonpodrising · 2017-01-11T20:23:03+00:00

http://quillette.com/2016/01/07/original-sin-the-sexual-motivation-of-religious-extremists/

This article argues that a key cause of violence and oppression in Muslim societies is the institution of polygyny. Even if this behaviour is restricted to the elite classes, it has a knock-on effect on the lower classes because of hypergamy. If you're a low-class male, you don't get to be a mini-patriarch even in your own house, because you won't get a wife. Hence widespread sexual frustration, and violent extremism directed outside of the society, e.g. ISIS's sexual slavery.

verynormalsimple · 2017-01-12T03:08:43+00:00

If you're gullible enough to be influenced by proselytism here, probably you're not ready to go your own way yet.

RationalistFaith1 · 2017-01-12T06:28:17+00:00

MGTOW is a rich world wide crowd.

If something bothers you, mention it on the specific thread.

Pfoenix · 2017-01-12T11:22:02+00:00

Joining a cult which makes it socially acceptable to dominate those physically inferior to you is not masculine, it is pseudo-masculine. It provides the illusion of masculinity but is in fact the exact opposite. It is the epitome of beta male behaviour.

I agree. However, I and probably many others here aren't concerned about being alpha or 'real men'. But blowing yourself up just to get some pussy is indeed the ultimate blue pill simp move.

diock1000 · 2017-01-18T15:02:16+00:00

I'm an ex muslim now atheist and I made a post about the subject here on this sub here. Most of you guys are already critically thinking men; you won't fall for that, but even if there is a chance that one user in this sub might fall to that, this will be a problem.

AryanPatriarchy · 2017-01-11T19:46:06+00:00

You won't know what a patriarchy is until children are taken from the clingy-dependent-deficient mothers and raised by men.

http://religionconfidencetrick.blogspot.com/

Turkick · 2017-01-11T21:41:37+00:00

As a Turkic guy from a muslim country, I don't agree with you. Except some clans, who live like in the Middle Ages, muslim men can be easily abused by gynocentric society. Yes, Islam doesn't give power to women directly. But women are valuable than men in islamic countries. So, being muslim is totally against being MGTOW. Islam forces men to get marrying and raise children as much as possible.

mynameisxahl · 2017-01-11T22:54:29+00:00

I converted to Islam a long time ago. I have not seen Muslims on this board trying to proselytize. If I had, I would have told them that this was not the forum for it. Frankly, I think you are full of it and just are trying to rile people up.

Islam carries no doctrinal punishment for a man who dies not marry or have kids. There is no command in it for a man to make himself unhappy. Regarding MGTOW, it takes no position. I am friendly to MGTOW simply because men's position in modern society is not good. I have never heard a Muslim speak on the subject of MGTOW in my entire life.

Islam also, always had men who lived apart from family life, especially in Asia Minor during the 1300's. Ibn Battuta mentioned the fityan associations that such men founded. Timur's father was one noted person who retreated from the world to a similar association.

I wonder why you have brought this subject here. Maybe you think that being anti-Muslim will strengthen the MGTOW philosophy, but if this take hold MGTOW will be seen as subordinate to religious controversy, and damage will be done just as it is by guys who claim falsely that MGTOW is all about White nationalist ideology. It will make MGTOW look silly.

RationalistFaith1 · 2017-01-12T06:42:07+00:00

Awwww sounds like OP is looking for a "safe space".

2017-01-12T09:21:58+00:00

Muslim here.

By all means, you can be against Islam in any way you wish, i am not bothered by that.

However, in MGTOW Religion does not play a role at all. It's about going your own way and we discuss it here. Here on this sub you can have people from all kinds of backgrounds and religions. I have yet to see a muslim here trying to convert people. Sometimes, people tell their background and lifestyle

mofono · 2017-01-12T10:15:57+00:00

MGTOWs are not weak. It takes great strength and resolve to go against what is normal and live life on your terms rather than conform.

sandal_on · 2017-01-12T13:38:46+00:00

You are either mislead or a liar.

Muslim here.

First being, Islam will never as a religion "need" to convert anyone to achive success.

If someone preaches Islam, they will get the same reward no matter if everyone or no one converts. You are just lying. Islam is a logical religion. Like or don't like Islam, it doesn't matter at all. If every muslim besides one left Islam, then it wouldn't matter. Islam is about quality as a nation, not in numbers. So no one will ever fell a tear if someone neglects Islam, it will be his or her lost.

"makes it socially .. dominate ... inferior... not" That is not Islam but only your empty lies. Islam is logical and treats gender different to utilize life to the better.

Islam restricts harmful competition and encourages muslim to be selfless and think about each other. Why? Because Islam is not materialistic.

"One glance at the middle east..." Yeah and lets not forget who divided the Ottoman Empire, enslaved many africans, killed the natives and so on. Don't let me get started.

"You would just be a tool for terrorists to use in their jihah." Funny, where is you evidence besides an extremely small minority? Fact:

Almost all muslims are not terrorists. But your government is.

"be wary of anyone on this sub-reddit who preaches about Islam. They have no respect for you and just want to use you.." Yeah really, but where is your evidence? Head to r/islam. The vast majority muslims are normal people. Unlike most americans who defend the USA attacks on other countries and causes innocents to die.

Stridaar · 2017-01-12T13:40:15+00:00

As a muslim, i think you're being a bit paranoid maybe? No we aren't here to convert you, we are doing our own thing, and our paths have led us to MGTOW. Not all muslims are isis, jeez.

Title	Muslims proselytizing on this sub-reddit
Author	MGTOWinspirit
Upvotes	147
Comments	100
Date	January 11, 2017 4:35 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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