So I'm realizing how much harder it really is for men.

R_BirthStrike · 2016-10-12T19:03:42+00:00

The most important things to remember. DO NOT:

get married
have children
cede your personal freedom to someone else

JStheHammer · 2016-10-12T18:33:23+00:00

Avoid women as much as possible

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-10-12T18:57:40+00:00

What other people think of you is none of your business, and merely reflects their opinion anyway.

digdig66 · 2016-10-12T18:45:37+00:00

Check out the Meditations by Marcus Aurelius--advice from a Roman emperor written while on his campaigns.

Playstation_5 · 2016-10-12T19:35:43+00:00

The Homer J Simpson approach: laughter. "You're stupid" "haha, I guess I kind of am". "You'll never get a woman" "lol, guess you're right!"

armaadi · 2016-10-12T18:52:55+00:00

But what are some tips to develop the thickest skin and strongest mindset to let all this bullshit fly right by me?

You need to realize that someone making you angry, isn't really making you angry. They are saying something, and you are choosing to be angry. So when someone is trying to get to you, you can choose to let them or choose to not let them. It's entirely up to you.

Going off on someone for fucking with you or being a dick to you is easy. Remaining calm takes discipline.

And I want to stop being a bitchh about the enormous weight on all of our shoulders. Dealing with a world of self driven evil women.

Seems like you are focusing on the problems and not the solutions. If X happens, don't dwell on the fact that X happened, thinking about why X happened, and what you can do about it. If X is a big deal, what can you do short term....long term?

Guys with thick skin that seem to let bullshit fly by them, really aren't letting it fly by. They are acknowledging the bullshit, but are choosing not to let said bullshit effect them. You are young, and this takes practice. So practice, you must. Every day, look at situations and how to solve them.

If a chick is trying to shit test you, acknowledge and dismiss. Take your time to figure it out, too. You don't have to immediately respond to her.

Anyway, hope that helps.

Pac0_Seiei · 2016-10-12T23:49:24+00:00

From another sub many years ago :

"All great men are MGTOW. Maybe not in the sense that the term is commonly used here, but they have forged their own paths and pursued their own goals, all others be damned. The BP lies that women want to be the center of your attention and the focus of your efforts is all bullshit. You are doing the best for her by doing the best for yourself. If you're into MMA, go be the best ass kicker you can be. If you are a programmer, go write the next big thing that changes the world. If you like to cook, learn how to make 5-star shit look like McDonald's. And I promise, she will love you for it. Go. Your. Own. Fucking. Way. No one will fault you for putting in effort to be a better person. You might encounter some crabs in your bucket, but that just means it's time to find a different bucket. Fuck people who want to hold you down, including you. The best part of all this is that you will love yourself for it. Constantly being on the cutting edge of your ability, perpetually honing your craft/s, and pushing the envelope of what you thought was possible. Life will take on a new, more exciting shape and meaning. That's what being an RP man is all about. And then, they'll come. All that pussy you thought was unattainable will come rushing at you like flies to shit. They'll try you and test you and cry and laugh and disappear and show back up, all in an effort to get your attention. When you finally get to the ones that are worthy, they won't want your full attention. They'll be in love with the tingles they get from being with a real man, the man that you created, carved out of the grizzled, gnarled rock that was the old you. This is what your mom meant when she said the right woman will love you for you. She will love you for being the man that you wanted to become, and she can't find a better man. Even these women will come and go. You are your only constant, everything and everyone else is a variable. If you can really learn to love yourself, which is what this is really all about, the storms of life, be they women, family, jobs, health issues, whatever, will crash against your carved rock and none will move it. And at the end, when you're lying on your deathbed, surrounded by the people you've influenced and lives you've bettered because of your mere presence in them, you can look at the man you created and the life you lived and tell yourself, "Well done." Be hopeful, be disciplined, and always be moving forward, brothers. This is your time."

mhornberger · 2016-10-12T19:23:00+00:00

Read, find hobbies, do your own thing, work on personal development. Your anger gives other people power over your emotions. It takes time and experience to realize how little these things actually matter. Even if you cognitively know it doesn't matter, it might take a while for your temper to accept the reality.

I second /u/digdig66's suggestion for Marcus Aurelius. I also recommend Emerson, Thoreau, Steinbeck, and anything else you find that you like. If you find something boring, ditch it and try something else. I only got through "it" by reading and working on who I was on the inside. Other people aren't going to change.

iamlikethewindbaby · 2016-10-13T00:34:05+00:00

It's only harder if you attach yourself to a woman. As a man you're smarter, stronger, faster, rational, even tempered, daring, indomitable, and a problem solver. The truth is that life is much easier for you, which is why women are trying to handicap you in the name of equality.

gravelheart · 2016-10-12T19:43:27+00:00

Having interests and pursuits is vital. Something that continues to grow as you put more time and effort into it. Bonus if you can use it to generate income.

For me it's guitar and programming.

realpra · 2016-10-12T20:06:34+00:00

This is what I remind myself: "One day it will all burn and crash and when that day comes they shall ask for help and we shall laugh".

Buy crypto currency my friend.

hork23 · 2016-10-13T02:11:13+00:00

"But what are some tips to develop the thickest skin and strongest mindset to let all this bullshit fly right by me?"

Sure there are tips to do this better but it's really up to you. Recognizing what you do when confronted with stress will help greatly. We all have different strategies when that happens and when we get out into the real world those previous strategies tend to break down after some time. Learn about yourself and try to experiment with your cognitive processes when this happens but I think the most important part is being cognizant of what you are doing and/or reflect afterwards on your actions and why you did or thought those things when a particularly stressful or interesting event occurs.

scorched_throwaway · 2016-10-13T04:50:58+00:00

my advice. women are not evil, some individuals can be, though generally, it's their biological imperatives, which drive the behaviors you've seen.

glad to see you are understanding what is really going on.

R_BirthStrike has the the most important ones covered, stay frosty!

most of all, welcome!

angryomlette · 2016-10-13T04:59:49+00:00

I would like to add few more. Develop narcissistic behavior, value self over anyone (helps you cope against manginas, white knights and manipulative women). Be ruthless and learn to deflect negative attention from yourself. Never tolerate one-itis behaviors in your life. Never draw attention to your private life.

Can't think of anything else.

RaziJ · 2016-10-13T05:24:08+00:00

You're sounding like a victim, like many of these leftists sound. Not being a party pooper, but victimology is not what I thought MGTOW/libertarian leaning people believed in.

victor_knight · 2016-10-13T08:22:52+00:00

I think you need to get to the bottom of why it really bothers you to begin with. Once you answer that, work on learning to let go and move on.

n0vvv · 2016-10-13T08:37:36+00:00

If women have it easier, would you rather be one? They have their own problems. Especially aging, think about how painful that must be. The pressure they are under. The lack of real substance to fall back to.

wildfireboat · 2016-10-13T14:44:29+00:00

My starting point was reading Gorilla Mindset by Mike Cernovich. He has good tips on reviving masculinity in one's self.

Title	So I'm realizing how much harder it really is for men.
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Date	October 12, 2016 6:30 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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