Options for a young woman who wishes to opt out of college if I can?

humanbynature · 2018-04-26T08:07:09+00:00

Asking for ideas and insight based on an interest you have is one thing, but we have no idea who you are. All I see is a loooooong list of excuses to be lazy, and the only career option that comes to mind is peddling It Works! and Younique on social media. It sounds harsh but your post has us begging the question: "Well, what CAN this girl do?"

There are tomboyish hairdressers and girly software engineers. Figure out who you are first, and then start setting some goals on how to do more of what you enjoy.

Hottosmart · 2018-04-26T13:59:27+00:00

Honestly I'm going to give it to you straight. I was dating a beautiful young girl who didn't want to go to school and wanted to coast and just be a stay at home mother eventually. She dropped out of school, was living off her parents, nannying, didn't even have her own car/bills. Virtually no adult responsibility at 23 years old. Her thoughts were, "Well I'm not going to school so I won't have debt." "Well I don't have bills or responsibility so life is easier this way why would I want to change"

This "newer" post-feminism movement with RP women or just women in general wanting to go back to the traditional ways of not working, or being a full time wife/mother is not very realistic in the current "economic climate". If you ladies have anyone to blame it is your peers.

Anyways back to my point. The problem is not have a clear objective view of reality in which you can clearly see that modern day life is expensive. There is a disconnect with the amount of value you think you bring to the table. If you are like my mother, aunts, grandmother etc that have tons of domestic skills and know how to cook from scratch, clean, and really manage a household that is one thing. The women of that generation are gone now. What do you really bring to the table if you don't work? I meet many young girls that think they are going to go back to the old ways, but they dont have any skills. They just want someone to be taken care of and an excuse for the easy life. The majority of them are good looking and they think they should get a pass cause of their looks. Sorry ladies, your peers ruined that for you. Take it up with them.

you're expecting a man to shoulder the burden of the financial responsibility and risk. You don't bring anything spectacular to the table. You didn't have the foresight to think getting an education and a way to support yourself was important. You didn't understand that it takes money to make money and that putting yourself into debt while investing in yourself might be a better long run strategy.

Now you gotta deal with your choices and the options you have in front of you that are frankly limited.

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE a feminine woman, and I grew up with the best examples of traditional homemaking, cooking and feminine examples in my family.

Times have changed sadly and its a pipe dream now ladies. You don't have any skills.

Rivkariver · 2018-04-26T12:31:46+00:00

What is your main objection to college? Debt, not knowing what to study, feminism?

UmbrellalikeWetness · 2018-04-26T09:50:23+00:00

Just from context, I'm going to guess you're 17/18 years old.

I am a failure when it comes to cleaning, cooking,etc

Compared to going to college, this is not a hard thing to fix. But at your age, you likely have not experienced learning or mastering things that take multiple years to accomplish. It is thus normal not to have substantial skills in these areas when it's likely a parent has been doing the cooking for you. In a year you could be a decent cook, in three years a really good one if you focused on "expanding cooking knowledge" instead of "making a dinner to eat for today".

lazy

Well, shit, no shortcut here: willpower largely comes from practice. Motivation, on the other hand, can be gotten from other places. I will say it's encouraging that you've managed to write a lengthy structured post with proper paragraphs, so you're miles ahead of other people who manage at best a instagram picture with a whiny caption. Buuuuuut don't let any compliments on what you've already done reduce your drive to achieve more, that's an easy trap to fall in to.

but if these jobs dry up in my area, what will I do?

You are young, if you want to improve your ultimate lot in life, move to a "Super Zip Code": http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/local/2013/11/09/washington-a-world-apart/

I want to contribute to society

It's way easier to do this when you have resources. That's either time or money. You don't have the latter, so give the former. Later in life, this will switch. There may be some volunteering groups on meetup.com in your area. Solving "people don't eat well in America" is fighting 70 years of agribusiness starting with corn subsidies and that ridiculous food pyramid way way back. Any community gardens in your area? Getting involved in a food co-op could be a thing for you.

timeforstretchpants · 2018-04-26T15:22:33+00:00

By the time I got married (at 30) I had been working (part or full-time) for 15 years, had finished two undergraduate majors and a Master's in education. I had lived overseas and funded my own extensive travels.

I assume you're in high school and that you don't earn any money. Starting a job now doesn't mean you are committing to it for life. You can learn something from any job you take and get a better sense of what you're good at. Plus, money.

There are plenty of valid reasons for not going to college, but I'm not sure specifically what your reason is. You also mention nursing may be too intense due to your health issues. Is medicine an interest of yours? Would sonography or phlebotomy or doula be feasible? They might be less intensive. As for normal home skills, youtube can teach you pretty much anything. Cooking, sewing, etc

Lastly, you mentioned babysitting and housekeeping as easy to attain jobs. You've got to consider how much effort it would take to make those into full-time jobs that could actually support you. If that's the route you want to go, you have to be good at it. Maybe I'm a city snob, but if I'm hiring someone to watch my kids regularly, I'm looking for someone with worthwhile skills, not just someone nice. Are you first aid certified? Do you have any knowledge of child development? Are you doing fabulous activities or teaching my kids something I couldn't?

ContemporaryBelle · 2018-04-26T17:01:42+00:00

My fiancé is a high earner in a white collar field and wants me to do that traditional housewife role. However, he would have never entertained marrying someone who had not been to college. And the reason he knows he wants me to manage his home is because I was a nanny and household manager to millionaires for years before getting together with him (translating those home skills into a solid dollar amount he could reference for my value in the role). Being pretty, sweet, and feminine just isn't enough anymore to snag most guys. You need to be all of that and then more.

Guywithgirlwithabike · 2018-04-26T13:48:52+00:00

If you're looking for a trade school concentration that is compatible with your temperament and interests, but still offers good job prospects and pay, take a look at being a technician/assembler in the fiber optics field.

I'm an engineer in the defense industry, but years ago I worked in fiber optics, and nearly all of the best technicians and assemblers were women, and specifically mothers with traditionally feminine interests. The reason I think it worked out that way is fiber optic cables are very thin and fragile, and have to be well organized and routed in bundles in networking devices. Assembling and repairing this equipment requires a type of manual dexterity that has a lot of crossover with both knitting and braiding hair. One of the best assemblers we had kept knitting needles in her purse for when normal lab tools weren't getting the job done. My hands are too large to do the fine detailed work the job required at times, but fortunately I had one of the better assemblers working in my lab. She worked ~30 hours/week, and her schedule was arranged so she could drop off and pick up her kids at school.

This advice might depend on where you live though - most of the fiber optic companies in the US are clustered in the Boston, Philly, NYC, and Tucson metro areas, and Silicon Valley.

Nursingnursw · 2018-04-28T06:37:24+00:00

Become a nurse! You can do it in 2-4 years (you can get an associates of science), it teaches you great nurturing skills, you’ll be on a compressed schedule so you have more time to pursue your outside interests, and the money is good.

Nursingnursw · 2018-04-28T05:14:31+00:00

Continued from post...

Proofreading/ editing an internet penpal's work for a her English class(es?).
Helping with her oral English skills some of the time.
Interacting with said penpal and acquiring a very basic knowledge of French in the process (It needs work to even get to conversational level, I think. Had fun though and made a friend :) )
Exposure to coding ( Out of curiosity and because there was an effort to get more girls into coding, I loved video games anyway, so why not? Played around with HTML, CSS, Javascript, etc. Introduced to some concepts, had some fun, didn't stick with it though.)
Digital art ( Not too much, but used to love drawing...not looking into doing this anymore, but thought I would just put it out there for reference :) )
Took some weekend engineering/robotics classes geared toward HS students. Nothing too serious, but had fun. Enjoyed soldering when I could. Enjoyed hands on projects. Helped others when finished with my stuff. Worked in groups at times. Was introduced to using breadboards, wires, putting together a robotic arm, and other things.

Alright, so after typing up this list...based on interests I had in the past (and for most of my life..), I was more of the somewhat academically interested, day- dreaming artistic type. As a homeschooler, I had the leisure to explore more of my interests, learn as if I was going to teach someone else ( as I was in fact teaching myself with the help of the internet. My parent was kind to me and encouraged me to read, study, bought me books, and helped me, etc.)I am sorry that this post became so long, I just thought I would give more detail without spamming this subreddit with a follow up post....... **;-;**My apologies.

cannabiscoffeecup · 2018-04-26T17:04:29+00:00

I think you should enroll in online or community college classes to become a preschool teacher. What state do you live in? Call a local preschool, a chain like kinder care, and ask what their requirements are.

This will require almost no money to start, you'll be learning about things that will be relevant when you're a mother, and you will attract men who want a woman who is good with children.

You should work part time when you're 18/19/20 and focus on learning these things: - How to clean and organize with non toxic, cheap products products (like vinegar)

-How to cook from scratch for cheap. First focus on your health and how to save money on nutritious food. Learn how to shop seasonally and buy things like dried beans in bulk. Maybe practice cooking unhealthy but delicious things for your brother.

How to dress and do your hair/makeup in a beautiful but economical way. To attract a quality man you need to look like a quality girl, but not one who spends $500/month on makeup. Use sites like pinterest and books about being chic or dressing like a french woman/creating a capsule wardrobe to learn the basics.
LEARN EVERYTHING YOU CAN ABOUT SKINCARE. becoming an esthetician would also be a great job for a girl like you.

Start dating when you're 19. Date guys who are 27. Don't have sex with them, just have fun with them.

Around 22-24 is when you should plan to get married if you want to be a stay at home mom/housewife type. Look for guys who are 30-36.

If you're smart, you will do all these things and become an elementary school teacher too. You can go to a local college and major in psychology, then do a year long teaching course. Seems like a lot of work but trust me, keeping a man is way more work.

Title	Options for a young woman who wishes to opt out of college if I can?
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Date	April 26, 2018 3:56 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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