Why does society promote marriage and commitment to promiscuous women over "prudes" in light of these facts? Do people want men to get cucked?

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approximately half of women in the top quintiles of sociosexuality had been sexually unfaithful to a steady partner; this was more than a tenfold increase over the corresponding rate for people in the bottom quintiles.

Bailey, J. M., Kirk, K. M., Zhu, G., Dunne, M. P., & Martin, N. G. (2000). Do individual differences in sociosexuality represent genetic or environmentally contingent strategies? Evidence from the Australian twin registry. Journal of personality and social psychology, 78(3), 537–545. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-3514.78.3.537


In illustration of this, the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity increased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner,


Regarding the correlates of infidelity, results indicated that on the basis of both methods of assessment, the probability of sexual infidelity increased with higher number of lifetime sexual partners

Whisman, M. A., & Snyder, D. K. (2007). Sexual infidelity in a national survey of American women: Differences in prevalence and correlates as a function of method of assessment. Journal of Family Psychology, 21(2), 147–154. https://doi.org/10.1037/0893-3200.21.2.147


Our findings demonstrate that infidelity and number of sexual partners are both under moderate genetic influence (41% and 38% heritable, respectively) and the genetic correlation between these two traits is strong (47%). The resulting genetic correlation between the two traits was .47, so nearly half the genes impacting on infidelity also affect number of sexual partners. The correlation of the unique environment between the two variables was .48.

Cherkas, L., Oelsner, E., Mak, Y., Valdes, A., & Spector, T. (2004). Genetic Influences on Female Infidelity and Number of Sexual Partners in Humans: A Linkage and Association Study of the Role of the Vasopressin Receptor Gene (AVPR1A). Twin Research, 7(6), 649-658. doi:10.1375/twin.7.6.649


A truism in psychology is that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. This is no less true in the realm of sexual behavior. Indeed, one of the strongest predictors of marital infidelity is one’s number of prior sex partners (Buss, 2000). Deception about past sexual promiscuity would have inflicted greater costs, on average, on men than on women

Haselton, M. G., Buss, D. M., Oubaid, V., & Angleitner, A. (2005). Sex, Lies, and Strategic Interference: The Psychology of Deception Between the Sexes. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 31(1), 3–23. https://doi.org/10.1177/0146167204271303


Sexual promiscuity was significantly positively correlated with emotional promiscuity [r(356) = .261, p < .001], as well with sexual infidelity [r(323) = .595, p < .001] and emotional infidelity [r(323) = .676, p < .001], indicating that sexually promiscuous participants also tend to be emotionally promiscuous, and sexual[ly] and emotional[ly] unfaithful. In terms of the sexual domain, results showed that there is also a positive correlation between sexual promiscuity and sexual infidelity, stating that individuals that tend to be more sexually promiscuous also tend to be more sexually unfaithful. These results support our second hypothesis.

Pinto R., Arantes J. (2016). The Relationship between Sexual and Emotional Promiscuity and Infidelity in Proceedings of the Athens: ATINER’S Conference Paper Series, No: PSY2016-2087, Athens, 10.30958/ajss.4-4-3


Number of pre-marital partners: percent who cheated once married

  • 2: 10.4%
  • 3: 14.9%
  • 4: 17.7%
  • 5: 21.6%
  • 6-10: 26.0%
  • 11-20: 36.7%
  • 21+: 46.8%

NORC General Social Survey. (2011, October 02). Female Infidelity Based on Number of Premarital Partners — Statistic Brain. Retrieved July 5, 2015, from http://www.statisticbrain.com/percent-of-female-infidelity-based-on-number-of-premarital-partners/


Contrary to the myth, partners who’ve had many partners have a harder, not easier, time remaining monogamous. They are significantly more at risk of straying than those with little or no prior sexual experience.

Staik, A., PhD. (2019, March 28). 10 Predictors of Infidelity and Gender Differences: Why Do Partners Cheat? Retrieved July 15, 2020, from https://blogs.psychcentral.com/relationships/2014/08/a-look-at-infidelity-why-do-partners-cheat/


For people in this survey who reported four or fewer lifetime sexual partners, the rate of infidelity in the current marriage dropped to 11%, while for those who had five or more sexual partners the number was nearly double (21%). The break between the 54% of people who had five or more lifetime sexual partners vs. the 46% who had four or fewer total partners illustrates the lessons from the study. This breakpoint is validated by the fact that when asked straight out, 68% of those with more sexual partners in their pasts agreed that, “I am always faithful to my sexual partner” (whether currently married or single), compared to 82% of those with fewer sexual partners who said the same.

[I]nfidelity is also often the fruit of a lifelong approach to mating that involves seeking and practicing short-term mating encounters that encourage sexual variety at all stages and into marriage.

McQuivey, J. L., PhD. (2019, October 14). The Road to Infidelity Passes Through Multiple Sexual Partners. Retrieved July 16, 2020, from https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-road-to-infidelity-passes-through-multiple-sexual-partners-

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Title Why does society promote marriage and commitment to promiscuous women over "prudes" in light of these facts? Do people want men to get cucked?
Author MerryVegetableGarden
Upvotes 165
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Date 19 July 2020 05:31 PM UTC (9 months ago)
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[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar138 points139 points  (6 children) | Copy

Do people want men to get cucked?


The entire society is paved on a foundation of lies.

[–]Joe_Doblow26 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think it’s good for business

[–]apoc205014 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

How else are they gonna sell depressants?

[–]Grave_Heresy10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Great for business. This is why they push marriage on men in general. A married man will work twice as many hours and take fewer days off. They spend a bazillion dollars courting women and once they get married, they're going to basically be on the female's hedonic treadmill for life.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also, if men collectively refused to commit to promiscuous women it would effectively reduce the population of eligible women by half and further reduce the birth-rates while increasing out-of-wedlock birth rates, which both lead to poor outcomes for society. Some guys will have to bite the bullet and inevitably get cheated on. If they’re low quality then it doesn’t really matter.

[–]Joe_Doblow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very true your employer had you by the balls more when you have more responsibilities

[–]boy_named_su3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you take some sort of colored pill?

[–][deleted] 87 points88 points  (4 children) | Copy

Worth posting in TRP

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just did.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s quarantined. You can still access it

[–]Musicgoon64 points65 points  (3 children) | Copy

Great sources BTW. Divorce court and Child support is a multi million dollar industry. You keep the jails full of hard working men that get behind on child support. Commit them to suffering or paying to not see their children.

They are the packmules of society. This also gives feminism money and power.

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[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Suicide rate several times higher than that of fairer sex not given due consideration, harsher penalties for the same crimes, assumed offender in domestic disputes, presumption of guilt in the court of public opinion in regards to sexual misconduct allegations, etc.

[–]NabroleonBonaparte38 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy

Either way you slice it, men pay for women.

Either the family court economically rapes you, or the welfare state slowly chews at you through taxation.

If you want to go down the rabbit hole, ask yourself why has religion and tradition (which fought against female nature) dwindled in Western countries compared to Eastern countries (hint: one has money & power, the other does not).

[–]drunkPKMNtrainer4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I dont understand your last point. Tradition has gone down in western countries because they have more power and that's bad for men? Because women can divorce as they like?

[–]Ill_mumble_that12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women make men pay for the divorces by Default. That's what "no-fault" divorce means, the woman gets custody and child support. Great for men and society overall right? Don't punish women at all for breaking the marriage contract. They don't have to take it seriously and can do whatever they want without much consequence.

Single moms are great for child development, definitely not the reason single parent households have a 2/3 delinquency rate. Public school can more easily indoctrinate the kids when dad isn't around. Its a win win for Marxists.

This is an extreme example but Kids who grow up in a 2 parent household with physically (violent, nonsexual) abusive fathers actually turn out better than kids raised by single moms. That shit is bananas.

[–]secureMPC34 points35 points  (11 children) | Copy

Everybody want's to be able to have their cake and eat it too, especially women. At least you can lose weight when you have eaten to much, you can't unfuck people. A lot of women have been fucked by way too many guys because feminism thinks because men want to have many sexual partners then women should also want it.

Women realise after taking random dicks throughout their 20's that it doesn't bring them any kind of real happiness, and now they want to develop a meaningful relationship with 1 guy. But they can't unfuck. They have to convince men that it doesn't matter. And many guys are desperate enough to accept it.

[–]cat_magnet10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are right. I will add, once they lock down Billy beta they realise they are still not satisfied.

[–]Transport1272 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most of them end up divorced and become single miserable mama

[–]Eagleassassin33 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Or it’s just that lots of women also want many sexual partners? Why do you assume it’s because men want that? What if a woman doesn’t want to commit yet or just is unable to fall in love but also wants to have sex? Obviously she’d just sleep around with multiple partners. What’s the problem with that?

[–]McUserton2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What’s the problem with that?

Literally the whole point of the post. The problem with that is it makes her more likely to cheat.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She gon cheat.

[–]wtfdoiaskfor16 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

feminism thinks because men want to have many sexual partners then women should also want it.

No this is not true. No one girl believes that, they all know that more cocks = less value, that's why they all hide or lie about their N count.

Girls who openly brag about N count are throwing shit, hoping people will accept it. That's how women work: they throw shit hoping that they'll get away with it.

[–]secureMPC-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is something women and men know instinctually. Feminism is all about the "female sexual liberation".

[–]BlondeHornyElf1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've dated chicks that turned to fitness and lost a lot of weight. I truly did admire them for their determination, and was very attracted to her post-fatty sweet personality and strength of Will.

But you know what happens to chicks that lose a lot of weight? They have flabby loose skin.

It's sad because a chick who is used to being treated like an unattractive fatass but is now desirable would probably make a great wife.

[–]secureMPC1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well yea I don't date chicks who used to be fat, in part because of the loose skin and mostly because they will likely put on the weight again. Relevant Larry David

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When women get into much better shape, they start looking for new guys who wouldn't have settle for less in the first place. Be that guy.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's their decision whether to take the blindfolds off. If not, don't lament their walking off cliffs.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Everyone knows this intuitively. "Modern" society preaches against it, (sell your television!) but it's a fact of nature, produced through millions of years of evolution.

No modern "social construct" has any chance against genetic reality.

People that settle, are settling. They are lazy (speaking to men),

or waited too long to get what would have made them happy (speaking to women).

TRP has been dropping this knowledge all along. Girls taht neglect starting a family life early are sorely disappointed later, in their 30's, and wonder "where have all the good men gone?".

They got snapped up by girls in their 20's that had good upbringings. Respect and value traditional family life. The VAST majority of women are happier like this. Statistics do not lie.

They're duped, and the men that think it is OK are duped too... the last branch the women catch on their fall down the tree, with nothing to offer but a career where they learned to act like a man.

The lower 20% they ignored in early life, suddenly seem their last resort, but they can never be happy with that, as the statistics show, because they've squandered their attachment and love on instant gratification,

instead of building strong family bonds. Now they are pretty much incapable of bonding, especially not to some loser the'd never have looked at twice when they were riding high on the cock carousel.

And the "men" that accept this are equally as sad. If they'd worked on themselves instead of believing the same Blue Pill lies, they'd be hooking up with younger women. Possibly even have a family.

The numbers OP posts are not new, but it's good to see the facts posted now n again. Wake up call.

[–]absolutelynp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah man, its a shitty situation for both parties. finally someone says it.

[–]kclanton8011 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because we live in a female dominated society. Everything women do is excused away. America is about protecting and elevating the female at all costs, mainly because they spend all the money, and keep the Matrix running smoothly by controlling men through their desire for sex.

it's not that they necessarily want men to get cucked it's just that men are a disposable utility for society. We work and work till we die, give the money to the woman. She spends the money to keep the machine churning.

That's why society fears bachelor's and a child-free so much. They're bucking away from their programming and they don't want others to follow the same path. Money is your answer.....it's all about money.

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[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

Europeans engaged in degeneracy long before Jews took over the papers. You're just just going to have to stomach the fact that some white women are naturally sluts. Jews didn't make Julia the Elder, the wives of Henry VIII, Catherine the Great, etc., into cheating sluts. They've always existed. Maybe not at such high quantities, but that is the result of their going into the workforce and having professions because of a war the Germans started. And even if some Jewesses got the ball rolling on feminism, it would have fizzled out if gentile white women hadn't picked it up and ran with it. Greco-Roman pederasty and Bacchanalias also predated the diaspora in Europe. White people are naturally good-looking, and when you have that factored in with the drink and high culture, you get decadence and degeneracy. Quit blaming the Jews for your people's degeneracy. Gentile white guy here wholeheartedly admitting that we fucked up.

[–]Shitcuckedredditsays1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I mean you're the one who asked 🤷‍♂️

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[–]RedUtopia7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idk much about Israel but last time I checked they banned porn. Kind of sketchy for the people who make porn ban them in their home country

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The United States is the home country of American Jews.

[–]dreaded_jack3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any research to show results on religious couples? Do Christians couples cheat more then muslims, jewish couples? Does faith impact the results?, culture differences?

[–]FrickOffAHS7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

Agree but let’s keep this out of TRP

[–]Shitcuckedredditsays19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy

Definitely. But that's the kind of question he asked. I wasn't gonna bs him.

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[–]drunkPKMNtrainer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought we were all about the truth here.

[–]Shitcuckedredditsays1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sure, but I won't let some sack of shit lefties thought police me.

[–]TRPCops[M] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

They've been permabanned

[–]FrickOffAHS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s retarded, Permaban the retard replying with a 10 page comment about jewish history on a pickup subreddit instead

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[–]Gainznsuch-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Jews push the marriage lifestyle? Damn near every religion does

[–]CasaDeFranco3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The religion encourages monogamy, but ethnic secular Jews tend to not encourage such in gentiles.

Kind of like how in Israel it's one race, but outside of Israel, diversity is strength.

[–]MoistInitial1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why do Jews own something like 99% of the porn industry

[–]MrSlommy70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Anyone care to explain this in further detail?

[–]MoistInitial1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hes referring to Jews.

Check who owns majority of porn industry.

Also read this article talking about how porn was used as a weapon in palestine


[–]consciousorganism0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sorry but Mein Kampf is not a history book.

[–]Shitcuckedredditsays1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]BlondeHornyElf9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's all done on purpose, and it is meant to fail. You're treading down into deeper red pill territory with this question.

Without getting into specifics, let's just say the Commies know that if they destroy sex relations among Westerners, they destroy the birthrate and the overall culture. When whites become a minority within Western countries (as a result of low white birthrates + mass immigration from non-white countries), which are now all multiracial/multicultural universal suffrage democracies, they will lose all political influence and stability on a global scale. At that point, with whites made politically impotent, whoever has the most money and control over the core institutions effectively become the new rulers of the West.

[–]grunge0222 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It has less to do with breaking down "whites" and more to do with the destruction of the nuclear family. They're flooding western civilization with unlimited porn, feminine ideology, taxation of the working class (mostly males), and destroying christian religion (aka promote LGBT and fornication). You weaken men to the point where they don't have children and a family to fight for. Once those in power demoralize all men it will be primed for taking control.

[–]BlondeHornyElf1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree these are Communist tactics that can be applied to any society you want to throw into chaos and take control of. My take is that this is a direct attack on White civilization. I think they'd be doing this whether or not Whites are faithful Christians or not. I think this is ultimately a racial feud between Jews and Whites, more than it is a religious feud between Jews and Christians (although the two overlap quite a bit). If Whites organized a strong right-wing secular state I still think they'd be doing the same thing.

[–]grunge0220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ah I see. I never thought of looking at it from the Jew vs White perspective.

[–]Loquacious_Dragon17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

The vast majority of people don’t spent their time sitting looking at studies on infidelity.

[–]DrJamming24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy

But if vast majority read up on it - well let's just say there'd be much less money in lawyer's pockets from getting hoes alimony in divorce courts...

[–]darkprince_238 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You'd think that's the case but betas literally can't help it they'll see the truth right in front of their eyes and still make t he mistake of getting married.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck'em. These studies wouldn't exist in the first place if betas didn't act as guinea pigs for the rest of us.

[–]a14deadpool11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy

To be fair I’ve never heard anybody say to get married to promiscuous women they just say “get married” they never specifically say to who. But monogamy and marriage is not natural this shouldn’t be encouraged in the red pill you can still have kids but don’t marry.

[–]cat_magnet1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

If you don't trust someone enough to marry them, then for fucks sake don't breed with them.

[–]a14deadpool2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

It’s not about trust it’s mostly about freedom. Marriage destroyed freedom look how many men can’t divorce simply due to a “commitment” or because their wife is male them pay alimony. I don’t want the government in my life or any contract to give 50% of my stuff to a woman.

[–]cat_magnet9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not disagreeing with you there... But I think if you want kids you should be committed to the mother. Not necessarily a govt enforced contract but you should have the mindset that she is loyal. The last thing the world needs is more single mothers.

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes I agree, we should be loyal and committed with a child. But I don’t like the idea of signing a contract, it’s just not for me.

[–]Noodlesoupe21 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re still gonna have to pay child support even if you don’t marry

[–]a14deadpool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea but I actually support child support I don’t support alimony. Because I know men that left their wives without money and lots of debts and their kids had to work to help their mother. That happened to my cousins. So I do support child support in some way, I wouldn’t mind giving money to my kid.

[–]PrometheusRisesIN6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read The Rational Male : Positive Masculinity.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

for all the talk about salty bitches itt, there are a lot of salty bitches itt

spin plates and lift pussies

[–]savageinthebox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wait, we’re supposed to lift pussies? I thought we were supposed to fuck pussies? TRP is so confusing.

[–]S3LF-IMPROV3M3NT2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The women promote it because they're whores themselves, and use platitudes like "man up" and "not wanting to marry whores means you're insecure as a man" to promote their agenda. The men promote it for virtue-signalling points, in an attempt to get brownie points with women hoping to get some sexual reward, and because they're brainwashed and cucked as a result.

[–]cydestiny2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think society promote that but that promiscuous women are more awakened than the "prudes", i.e. more able to navigate the SMP and land the trophy.

This correlates to the sexual revolution that changes how promiscuous women are being valued, n counts suddenly become a cool thing, staying prude and virgin too long means you're broken goods and does not reward you anymore. This is a very dangerous ideology yet become a norm for most thereafter.

As premarital sex is more common nowadays, most men won't gauge (or couldn't accurately gauged) a woman's quality or value based on how many past partners she had prior. If she's telling the truth about her n count, most probably she's a prude or is experienced enough to know how to manipulate the trophy into thinking that he too landed on a prize. This is crucial for survival, i.e. to have the best chance with the highest value man possible in today's context.

In older days, getting with a man of high value mean you are sheltered from all the dangerous stuff that might end your life (or even your family's). This restriction causes woman to not be able to optimize their hypergamous nature. They ended up with husbands and partners who are providing them with the security important for survival but not the excitement. Man are matched with high value woman without needing to put in effort of learning game, social interactions, heck even having sex and making a woman feels good in sex because there is no competition. This is still true for certain countries.

Why is that so? Because the human civilization had found out ways to reduce or eliminate the threats and now we lived in a secured safe place. Man is no longer the sole provider of safety or security, just by being a part of the society, you are automatically entitled to feel safe. Over the past decade, we are working to further obliterate threats that woman are facing not only just threats from man physically but also mentally and basically everything else. Empower the woman, yeah!

But that's a good and bad thing. The good thing is, it helps build stronger man. Imagine Red Pill was not needed at all, man do not exchange notes but see each other as enemy and the SMP is skewed towards power play, who has the most power gets to get whatever chick they want, those who are at the lowest in the food chain is going to stay virgin or have their high value partners snatch away from them. Now that SMV is a thing, man are finally working on themselves pushing themselves even further.

The bad, or the ugly, is that we are building a gynocentric order. I am happy that woman are filling up the roles that man used to risk their life for but I am happier if woman could also hold themselves accountable for all the responsibilities that followed. It is hard to be a woman (true for man too, we all have our problems to solve), that I agree but taking up the responsibilities of a man isn't going to make it anyhow easier. For instance, are you willing to hit the gym at least 5 times a week and eat healthily to get yourself in shape, are you willing to put yourself out there and endure the hardship at work while still being able to control your emotions at home, etc.

A sustainable relationship is where one that consist of a masculine figure and feminine figure, not both in one. Man can play the feminine role and female can play the masculine role but you are learning to do things that doesn't come naturally to you. Can you do it successfully? Yes, of course, we human beings are the most adaptable species around. Can you do it happily and feel fulfilled? I doubt it.

[–]anticommunistforlife1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just don’t get married but you can have a wedding and marry in the eyes of God

[–]subaruguy141 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s the feminist propaganda, helps to keep the welfare state from overloading.

[–]Grave_Heresy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. Society is gynocentric. The entire LTR/marriage setup is designed to cuck beta males and capitalize of male sexuality in general.

[–]Mega PussyGlobalArachnid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So older promiscuous women can feel better about spending their teens and twenties partying and taking a different dick every weekend. They're the majority of women. Pleasing the majority of society keeps society's cogs turning.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only thing I can think of is that they know their worth?

Red pill girls sleep with people more and won’t feel as bad cheating since it’s arbitrary anyways.

Imo this points out the should-be obvious

It also points to a lot of alpha widows.

Why would she throw her life away for sex? Unless she felt the new guy was more alpha.

If you’re in this subreddit you probably don’t have as much to fear if at all.

[–]boy_named_su0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because Feminine Imperative

It's covered extensively in The Rational Male


[–]korben_manzarek0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why does society promote marriage and commitment to promiscuous women over "prudes"


[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ironically, I don’t have statistical or scientific evidence to back that up. It’s just something that I’ve personally observed.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why does society promote marriage and commitment to promiscuous women over "prudes" in light of these facts?

Gynocentric society. Everything is constructed to benefit women.

Do people want men to get cucked?

Yes they do, because it benefits women.

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

good post. for future reference: http://archive.is/wip/bmjJU

answer to your Q: what's good for society isn't what's good for the individual male. Individual Men are expendable.

[–]gundam00810 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

naw men are not cucks lol, most men would lose it and do serious bodily harm if they find out their woman has been unfaithful.

[–]cunningcaring-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

More men are unfaithful than women.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Think again, friend.

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Among ever-married adults ages 18 to 29, women are more likely than men to be guilty of infidelity

Wang, W. (2018, January 10). Who Cheats More? The Demographics of Infidelity in America. Retrieved July 20, 2020, from https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america


One of the more interesting facts in Esther Perel’s new book, State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity, comes near the beginning. Since 1990, notes the psychoanalyst and writer, the rate of married women who report they’ve been unfaithful has increased by 40 percent, while the rate among men has remained the same. More women than ever are cheating, she tells us

Brooks, K. (2017, September 21). Why So Many Women Cheat on Their Husbands. Retrieved July 20, 2020, from https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/why-women-cheat-esther-perel-state-of-affairs.html


According Tammy Nelson, a couples therapist and author of When You’re The One Who Cheats, there’s a reason to suspect that women may be not only cheating more, but also getting away with it a lot more often.

Sex therapist Candice Cooper-Lovett agrees with Nelson that women’s ability to hide infidelity is at least somewhat adaptive. “A lot of women in my practice have shared that cheating was something that you take to the grave with you because men can’t handle cheating in the way that women do, or are expected to,” she explains.

Vinopal, L. (2020, May 06). Do Men Cheat More Than Women? Retrieved July 19, 2020, from https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/do-men-cheat-more-than-women-infidelity-data/

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[–]Noodlesoupe24 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

It can result in a woman helping build up a man and then him leaving her for a younger mistress when he gets successful.

[–]I_Dont_Type3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP typically focuses on the flaws of women over the flaws of men (unless those flaws are preventing men from getting laid). I think we forget here sometimes that men can be just as shitty as women.

Men rely on morals to keep themselves in check. Without morals it’s a slippery slope to animalistic behaviour. A lot of men’s morals are shaky and it’s well known that we ‘think with our dicks’.

[–]cunningcaring0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Look at the numbers: in every case most of the marriages last the duration.

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[–]omega_dawg933 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

the only way to win is to not play the game.

the one way you do lose is thru being taxed heavily if you're successful with no dependents.

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[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ll come with you. We’ll ride bears and kick ass.

[–]BlondeHornyElf2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think I've taken all the red pills but one thing I don't get is how not having kids is any kind of win. You spare yourself getting betrayed and raped by the State, but you still permanently end your bloodline (unless you have brothers or sisters).

When MGTOWs say "the only way to win is not to play", they haven't really solved the problem in my opinion. I could absolutely live a perfectly free and happy life all on my own, in that sense they are right. But if you make it impossible for you and your people to reproduce, you still fucking lose the game of life.

MGTOW or even being a successful PUA is a logical reaction to the situation that reduces the pain and failure of modern relationships and family formation, but I don't see how it is any kind of real solution.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No progeny to raise and teach who may bring grandchildren. No being surrounded by your family on your deathbed, proud, loving and being loved.

[–]BlondeHornyElf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ya exactly

i don't see how the mgtow or red pill guys can ever consider this a win when society has made it practically impossible to achieve what our grandparents considered just a normal family life

to me it just seems like a lot of cope

i've fucked my fair share of sluts, been in my fair share of LTRs, am good-looking and intelligent guy, and yet i still have nothing of substance to show for it

[–]cat_magnet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you can find a virgin or a very low n count then statistically you have a decent chance.

[–]mortalcoil1-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

This isn't a real question.

AskTRP isn't a bitch session against women.

At least it didn't used to be...

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This isn’t a “bitch session against women.” Men promote the myth that sluts are just as capable of fidelity as non-sluts too. The question is why they so eagerly promote falsehoods.

[–]Polorutz-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well your data says that at 21+ partners infidelity is at 46.8%

Therefore 57.2% of sluts are capable of being faithful after marriage.

[–]MerryVegetableGarden[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

These are self-reported and are thus likely low estimates. It is known that some women dress down or outright about their sexual histories on even anonymous surveys because there are usually follow-up questions asking about their levels of honesty when answering the questions. Why would that not include people who’ve cheated? If they’re not completely forthcoming about their pasts, why would you expect they’d be about their indiscretions?

And check your math: 100-46.8 does not equal 57.2. Given that 46.8% is likely the low estimate, it’s safe to assume that the real likelihood is at or slightly above half. When you commit to a slut, you’re flipping a coin on your life.

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