Do you guys actually think that US is fucked,will have a civil war,market crash,will install a communist regime etc. Why/why not

Paladin2903 · 2021-01-21T10:10:16+00:00

People are still way too comfortable and have too much to lose. The United States is home to the richest poor people on Earth.

Far too many people (the ones that keep society going) still have way too much to lose by doing that, and they also have access to way too much cheap entertainment that occupies their time.

It’s actually sad, because the Demonrat Party is not gonna stop until they turn every inch of this country into the kind of quality of life you get in Compton and Inglewood on a poppin’ ass Saturday night. People are basically Netflixing and YouTubing away their freedoms.

Quality of life will continue to take a nosedive from affirmative action programs, quota programs, “equal” rights bullshit programs, higher taxes, less benefits, “affordable” housing in great neighborhoods, more government and globalist corporation control, etc.

Basically, too many unqualified people doing jobs that are way out of their league. The youth will continue to adopt degenerate low class ghetto culture as second nature, as well, as they keep getting exposed to third world cultures as the “norm” from their new “friends” at school.

Do I think there will come a day when everyone has lost so much that they collectively snap and decide to fight? Maybe. Do I think that day is anytime soon? Not at all. Not even close.

I think the seceding of Texas and Florida, and then the entire South, will happen way sooner, and is more plausible. They will likely form their own America, probably based upon the same Roman Italic Constitutional Republic system, with the capital of the south being in Texas.

One thing I think they will likely add are more protections in their Constitution to prevent outsiders and subverters from seizing control, like they have here in America.

jhooperp · 2021-01-21T10:26:00+00:00

It’s like this. The media has shown their biases and have been creating their narrative the last four years. They never liked Trump as President so have always been on attack mode. Most people haven’t cared until last year with the pandemic and the riots. The media kept making excuses for the riots like we all saw cities burning and people looting and attacking others while the media acted like everything was fine. The only person to stand up and say this is ridiculous and needs to stop was Trump and his administration.

All the riots happened in Democratic run states and cities and they allowed it to happen. And a lot of people woke up to this and realized how manipulative the media was.

Then on election night it was pretty much known Trump won or will win the election. There was like 5 states left to determine the winner and Trump just needed two of those five states to win and he was up over 300k in votes. Then all of a sudden with less than 5percent of the ballots left to count these states decided to just stop the count until morning. The next morning Biden apparently caught up because they said the mail in ballots were counted and more just arrived but these states then needed more days to finish counting. Basically three days later the media announced Biden won and from there the lawsuits and stuff to contest the election started.

The media called Trump evil and all kinds of names for daring to question the election while the courts didn’t want to get involved. Many poll workers from different states came forward and signed papers under penalty of perjury saying they saw fraud and some security footage from the state of Georgia showed something wasn’t right (that place in Georgia said on election night they stopped counting because a water pipe broke and flooded the place yet security footage showed nothing of the sort plus it showed after the poll workers left couple people stayed and took boxes of ballots from under tables which they couldn’t do without poll watchers), and people claimed they couldn’t vote because either someone voted for them or they got ballots in the mail that wasn’t theirs since they send everyone ballots without checking to see if the system was up to date, etc.

Anyway in Georgia the Senate election both spots the Republican Senators won but they didn’t get over 50 percent of the votes so there was a runoff election (first time in history TWO senate races from the same state had a runoff) and in the runoff election in Jan of this year it was weird because the same thing happened: one of the races the Republican candidate was up and they decided to stop counting until the next day when they said the Democratic candidates won both races.

Then on Jan 6 was the day Congress certified the election. Trump had a rally where he told people to March peacefully to the Capitol where Congress certified the election where some Senators were questioning the results and askin for an investigation and to be outside to protest like protestors usually do at the capitol. Anyway for some reason security wasn’t present as usual and some broke in while others were told to walk in.

The media decided this was a coup and these people were seditionists who were lead by Trump and called this an act of terrorism.

Anyway then Congress ended up convening some hours later and certified the election with many Congressman deciding to just not contest it because of the riot earlier and they certified it.

Next day Trump decided to concede since he went through all the legal options. And then the following day the tech companies all banned Trump on all their platforms deciding with the media that he is dangerous and it’s all his fault that the riot at the Capitol happened.

During the election the media and big tech censored any story that was bad for Biden and good for Trump and this just proved that in fact the media and big tech did work with Democratic Party to get Biden elected.

Big tech then started to go after Trump supporters with the media calling them all terrorists and pushed for more censorship of them. Companies followed along and let go people who they saw voted for Trump etc.

Inauguration Day they militarized the Capitol and blamed it on Jan 6 riot. And during his speech Biden declared war on American citizens who pretty much don’t conform by labeling them racists and white supremacists and terrorists and made it seem like he will use his power to go after them.

Anyway sorry for the rant but that’s the basic thing that happened. Basically the media didn’t mind the over 6 months of violence and looting BLM did where police also got killed and attacked but they acted like that one riot at the Capitol was worse that lasted less than 6 hours. Apparently those were terrorists but BLM who literally took over city streets armed calling themselves autonomous zones were just peaceful protestors.

And basically the country is heavily divided with one side, the Democratic Party, controling all the power pushing that the other side are either terrorists or should be silenced, and the other side, people who supported Trump and feel like he won but were cheated out, have no power and see that they are being silenced and now the power of the US government is coming for them.

My opinion on all this: well I think things aren’t lookin good. I mean the US President called for unity yet in the same speech called the other side all racists who are white supremacists and terrorists. And he’s doing that knowing companies are silencing them. On top of this Congress is trying to make sure Trump can never run for office again by illegally wanting to have a trial against him even though he’s out of office.

Oh and the US keeps printing money and there’s talk that the virus mutated and maybe the vaccine won’t work on it. And the new administration said their priorities is helping minorities and females (which of course is racist and sexist but when they do it the media backs them up and it’s all good). Oh and this new administration said they are opening up the borders which thousands of people have been waiting who’ve started the trek to come here (virus or not whatever).

DatDustDoe · 2021-01-21T09:49:10+00:00

Texas will never get around to it. But about half of us think the election was rigged, and all of us hate the others. So yeah, shit's gonna go down. The exact shape of it isn't clear yet, IMO.

Notlikeotherguys · 2021-01-21T11:55:18+00:00

Gotta wait and see. At the end of the Day the Dems have a very slim majority. Many of these politicians are running for reelection in 2 years. I don't think you will see too much legislation that pushes the envelope too much. Remember how many Democrats sacrificed their political carreers ramming through Obama care. The mid term elections were a blood bath for the Democrats. I don't think Joe will last 4 years. Right now all he is doing is returning us to the pre Trump status of open borders, corruption, and getting bilked by the UN. What may end up triggering violence is the recent behavior of the media and big tech stifling free speech, and branding all Trump supporters as racist criminals. Also if the government continues to move ahead with a policy of punishing their former political rivals and purging the military of political undesirables its just going to show them as acting like 3rd world dictators. It's not going to go over well with the public. Iwould like to see them voted out in 4 years, but we lack a real 2nd party. While Trump showed the Dems for the America hating socialists that they are, he also showed the Republicans to be the cowardly ineffective weasels that they are. And then there's the possible (in my opinion very probable) voter fraud that was never really investigated. Certainly not in the way the Bush vs Gore Florida election was back in the day. If they try to make this a tactic every election day we will be a 1 party country in about 8 years time and violent revolt will be the only path left. That's just my opinion though, I am not advocating armed revolt, and it's sad that I have to clarify this

prbonfanti · 2021-01-21T11:34:46+00:00

Lets see, the tech media, turns the most powerful person in the world in a non-person with the click of a button and brand half of a country like terrorist supporters?
Nothing to see here, move along.
It was a good time, americans gave some good ideas to the world in the past and some bad too, but now is officialy idiocracy, so i will have decency to not look directly at it.
For people who are not insane i don't know where they should go, south america certainly does not compute.
My real issue, is the fall of USA benefits China, and nothing good will come from that.

arun25mblr31 · 2021-01-21T16:56:04+00:00

Outsider perspective.

Looking at what Biden/Dems/MSM are promoting (identity politics, racial equity, legal discrimination etc), those policies will systematically lead to a downfall in a decade or two. There will be brain drain with entrepreneurs/people with merit leaving the country. You will not become an outright communist state nor have a civil war.

It will be a slow poison pill. You will get more corrupt politicians who will solely survive on the identity politics + freebie culture. People who add value to society will feel demotivated while free loaders rule the roost. There will be fewer innovations, corrupt judges, rogue politicians. Citizens will not feel proud of their country and instead become very apathetic. Anything will go. Uncertain property rights. Selective enforcement of law. Bribery etc etc.

TL;DR - You are fucked as a country 😐. There won't be a civil war or communist state but slowly you will become like a 3rd world country. There will be some pretense of law and order but not 100%.

bamabeatsny · 2021-01-21T13:37:02+00:00

When they let that hoard of people come through the border, AND, President Joe has said he's going to automatically legalize all the illegal people here by fiat decree, you will begin to see push back.

Then the taxation will start.

I fear we will live to see major civil unrest. And it'll be under this new administration.

They are so angry and filled with hatred for anyone that doesn't agree with them, that they will foment as much unrest as possible.

rebuildingMyself · 2021-01-21T14:01:18+00:00

Day 1, Beijing Biden has already cost the country $2.2 Billion in pay checks and 10,000 jobs by virtue signaling over the Keystone Pipeline. Even Trudeau is a bit pissed at that one across the border because now HIS side of the deal is fucked. This literally breaks signed contracts and I think Canada will sue over it (as they should). That oil will still need to be refined and transported. Thankfully Obama's old friend Warren Buffet just bought up a train company that will be doing that for us!

He also flipflopped on fracking and is now going to ban it. Say hello to $4 gas once again (if you're not in commifornia, in that case $7 gas) and also being dependent on despots in the Middle East once more. Energy independence is for nazis, shitlord!

While the left is clutching their pearls over the capital protests that lasted only severla hours, Antifa is still raping urban cities and even democrat HQs are targeted. Now that they've served their purpose, I bet Biden will bring the hammer down on all of them.

Don't forget the Soros-funded caravans marching north and will invade the country soon. Well, I guess they can't invade when Biden opens the front gates and says "come on in, make sure and settle in any of these red states!"

BenBurch1 · 2021-01-21T16:46:17+00:00

No civil war. Americans are too pussified for that. But yes, America is fucked.

Doogie76 · 2021-01-21T17:45:08+00:00

When Angela Merkel says you went too far by censoring a president you know went too far. She's as left leaning world leader as they come

TigPlaze · 2021-01-21T15:36:59+00:00

The people calling for a civil war are idiots. Anyone who has actually experienced war is not for anything like that. When the country actually had a civil war, it was a catastrophe with something like half a million casualties and lots of disease and death, and a totally destroyed economy. I can guarantee you anyone who served in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam is saying "fuck no" to any more war, and especially not a war within our own borders. We're not going to arm ourselves with ARs and AKs and take on the US military that's absurd. For the way the country treats men like shit, all you can do is refuse cooperation. Don't play their fucked up game of a rigged dating market. Don't waste your money on women. Make them pay for their own shit. But if you're ridiculous enough to go out armed and shoot at people are leave pipe bombs to blow people up, you're being a ridiculous terr0r1st lunatic.

Beneficial_Garage · 2021-01-21T13:24:25+00:00

I think you may see a lot of secessionist movements take root. In 2019 and early 2020 . You had multiple counties in virginia. Trying to leave virginia and become part of west virginia. I think it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to see this take place. If Texas leaves. Other states will follow suit.

show-me-the-numbers · 2021-01-21T16:34:54+00:00

The commies have unlawfully seized power through stolen elections. They'll spend the next four years flooding in South and Central Americans in the millions. Next election they won't have to cheat. This is the plan and it's working.

HiveMindKing · 2021-01-21T20:01:38+00:00

No people are fat and lazy and we are too afraid to be the one that sticks out too far, me included. Its all well and good being a patriotic revolutionary but no one wants to be a lone crazed gunman or terrorists.

This is more the time for the Blackpill, the ship is crashing and there is nothing we can do to avert the crash, all we can do is to try to eek some enjoyment out of the life we have before us and do what good we can on an individual level.

full_control · 2021-01-21T20:33:32+00:00

None of the above, although possibly attempts at the last. Most conservatives like me I imaging are more focused on work, our brokerage accounts, and keeping our heads down. We're in a bull market and if you're not making money because you're too busy reading the news and arguing you're an idiot.

ChadLadPronouns · 2021-01-21T20:48:02+00:00

The U.S. is totally fucked. The goal of those ruining the country is to slow cook things so there is NOT a civil war. However, they pushed things far too quickly and average Americans have noticed - leading to talk of a civil war.

So, here is what is going on. Prior to WW1, the Marxists academics were already spinning their wheels on how to reduce conflict, particularly international conflict. The baseline for Marxism is equitable distribution of things. If everyone has enough, there is no need for war - right? There was only one methodology in mind at the time, which was violent uprising to overthrow a government and install a new communist system. That is what happened in Russia in 1917, and what was attempted in Germany in 1918 (you likely have never heard of the Germany Civil War of 1918, look it up).

After WW1, Richard Kalergi took things further. He had a new methodology in mind based on the problem of the nation state. It wasn't enough that people within a nation had equity. They would still seek more from other nations, leading to warfare. His solution was to create several mega-nations, combining nation states into sections all over the world. Europe was the primary problem, in his mind.

So how do you solve the nation-state problem? First, you eliminate national borders and allow people to freely flow across them. Second, you have a centralized "federal" government or council that gives edicts to the individual nations. Third, you make a common currency so that any nation that acts up within the bloc can be sanctioned into economic ruin. Fourth, you import people from north africa and the arab nations and incentivize mixed-breeding. Fifth, you destroy the family structure, cultures, and histories of the individual nations. Sixth, you destroy religion.

The result he wanted was a "brown skinned people reminiscent of ancient egyptians" who would be racially ambiguous, have no common history or culture, no common religion, and really nothing binding people together into individual tribal identities. That way, there is no "other" against which people can band together for warfare. The government would still exist without any kind of unified mandate from the people, and could do whatever it wanted.

The Frankfurt School in Germany expanded on his methodology in regard to the fifth and sixth items. Cultural Marxism. Their first action-item was to give women the vote in order to destroy the family structure and cause division between men and women. They also pushed heavily for homosexuality - most of what they wanted to do was reduce birthrates. Nuking the family structure and convincing guys to be gay is pretty effective in that regard. Another big aspect of cultural marxism is to bombard the populace with discouragement. Make courts give unfair results. Make the economic system a nightmare for most people. Gaslight the populace constantly with fake news. Once everyone feels like garbage, they will jump at the government's solutions like a falling man clinging to a sprig of grass.

Kalergi is known as the "Father of the European Union" and an award is given out every year by the EU in his name - to anyone who advances his agenda.

What you are seeing in the U.S. is the same thing. Europe was first, but he also envisioned a pan-American super-nation including the U.S. and all of the South American countries. You import immigrants, shit all over the nation's history and culture, encourage race mixing, destroy religion, and make it so that people are so split up on every issue that there is no longer a unified national mandate needed for a stable democracy. The government remains, and does whatever it wants.

It happened too fast, and people have noticed.

SaltedRoastFarmer · 2021-01-21T21:15:17+00:00

There is no question JewSA is dead.

There won't be a Civil War though. A Civil War, any war requires people you fight against and people you fight with.

Mad Max collapse where people kill each other for wrongthink or just loaves of bread, absolutely, a Civil War with both allies and enemies? No.

eveready_x · 2021-01-21T14:41:26+00:00

People are focused on the politics. I understand.

1) But, the real problem is the economy. We are in the beginning of a world wide depression. That is not going away. It will only get worse.

2) In many countries there is a serious food supply problem. Very few people are talking about that.

phoenixgreek · 2021-01-21T16:27:25+00:00

We’ll be stuck in this ridiculous two party system for another 3 generations.

2021-01-21T16:39:44+00:00

I look at what is going on as Christian vs Pagans at the end of the Roman Empire that cast Europe into a thousand years of darkness.

Marxism is nothing more than an Atheistic, Materialistic Christianity. And both are nothing more than a Nietzschean slave morality that fetishises weakness while demonizing strength.

So, I honestly think in the next 100 years it is the downfall of America and a new dark-age dominated by what amounts to the remnants of American diplomatic power but Marxist to its core.

Our ideas will be rediscovered again and burn away the darkness for several hundred years before the Priests extinguish that light.

Rinse and repeat.

bvncgfhjtyru5678 · 2021-01-21T18:28:24+00:00

No, none of this will happen in the next hundred years anyways.... if the earth lasts that long.

These are the easiest times ever to be a happy bachelor. Yeah, sad the traditional times are over for the long term, but if marriage and family were never big goals for you (they were not for me) good times abound.

Travel, pussy, food, entertainment are cheaper than they ever were. You need to go out and make some money, create a career/vocation for yourself, but this is bachelor heaven.

xorgate_ · 2021-01-21T13:23:52+00:00

Not going to happen.

ActOutside4853 · 2021-01-21T14:23:21+00:00

I see many possibilities... Its impossible to predict the short term for me, I do better with long term, which is opposite of normal.

Cant tell you what will happen tomorrow or next week, but can get an overview good enough to see where things go long term.

And the pronosis isnt good. The big trends are that the manipulators are working in concert to get total control. But that they also run into problems historically among themselves...

Joe will be sucking Xi, but eventually nukes, bugs, etc. Will be used. Iran is six months from Nukes... Joe will suck up to them too as an appeaser.

And when the balloon goes up, all this petty stuff will go by the wayside.

This current shitstorm is the road to get there.. When it happens, those who got out of urban areas will have a much better chance of survival.

Those who stayed for money and convenience will be crash test Dummies for nukes, bugs and famine.

Then when its over, an "On the Beach" scenario, Neville Shute, if you havent read that... ie an extinction level event.

But those in the know, will wait, for Alien rearrival...probably many horrible years, until game over, and those who set up the game return for their desired product.

This planet is basically a school of how not to run a planet, and what happens when imperfect primitives play with fire, and individuals go along with nasty things.

Its to teach the product to have a flinch factor. That no matter where they go thereafter, any hint of decadence and corruption will get an instant adverse reaction.

Knowing where things go, is way better than anything else to prevent repeats.

ClintonKilldepstein · 2021-01-21T22:33:30+00:00

The corporatocracy has already directed the MSM to tone down their rhetoric. The judges in Oregon have begun denying bail to the BLM & Antifa activists. Democrats have no problem being fascist when they want to be. Remember Occupy Wall Street? Neither Biden or Obama do.

DatDustDoe · 2021-01-22T06:25:29+00:00

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jred47899 · 2021-01-22T06:36:40+00:00

Short term some places will stop cooperate with government and maybe there will be attempt in couple of states to leave union. But I don't think it will pass. Also you will see richer people to flee the leftist cities.

Long term the IQ is going down and with new migrants it will speed up. Some parts of country will become really poor and chaotic. New communities who will try to defend themselves will arise and give birth to new ethnicities.

mrcl_hrz · 2021-01-23T03:50:25+00:00

The american left is too stupid too install even communism. Communism is maliciousness on another level, and can only be implemented by truly great and dangerous sociopaths. The american left are just idiots. So I wouldn't be afraid of that.

I'd shit my pants thinking about how their pseudo-socialistic welfare policies will bankrupt your country and make it so weak that you will be taken over by china. And if that happens, ACTUAL communism will rise and destroy the whole fucking planet.

halshatari · 2021-01-23T20:30:57+00:00

The US dollar will always be the US dollar. It is backed by the strobes army in the world. There are ships sailing on the clock around the world protecting it. It might get sick, but it will never die.

halshatari · 2021-01-23T20:38:57+00:00

Listen to David Hunter on YouTube, he's a conservative and has 47+ years experience in the market

GoodMan_Gone · 2021-01-21T14:06:22+00:00

If I could give an advice it'd be not to wage a civil war. Better to have communism while still being able to speak your own language. It'd be a b*tch to have to learn Chinese I'd say. For the rest my advice is to do what you're doing now: go your own way and stay under the radar. Communism isn't the end of the world and it will implode as it always has. But don't start any fuss to prevent the re-education and destruction camps.

Title	Do you guys actually think that US is fucked,will have a civil war,market crash,will install a communist regime etc. Why/why not
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