so that guy is 5 years older than me, i was 20 and he was 25 when it happened. he was what i would call high value cause he always respected his fiancé who's now his wife and treated her like a queen and we grew up like siblings. i once asked him to give me dating advice and that's how our conversation was and it's not even exagerrated:

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him: sis trust me, us men LOVE IT when women make the first move, who told you that crap about that being untrue?

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me: i heard that when a girl make the first move the guy doesn't value her and he always feel like he settled for not chasing her even if she's the perfect package. you know.., most guys love bitches.

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him: pfff that's horseshit. my ex girlfriend made the first move, she was loving, always supported me and we lasted for 2 years.

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me: mmh why did you guys broke up again?

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him; ah you know i was a dumb kid and i didn't valued her enough and i don't know why, i loved her but i think i didn't knew how lucky i was and she left because i insulted her and i sometimes treated her badly cause i wasn't afraid to loose her... i was a dumb immature kid

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me: okay... and who made the first move with your actual fiancée?

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him; i did but i swear it's JUST A COINCIDENCE that i proposed to her. i swear i would have treated her the same way if she made the first move.

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me: you also swear you guys don't love bitches but i remember how mesmerized you were by her when she left you on read multiple times, and barely gave you any kind of attention. -_-. is it also a COINCIDENCE that the woman you proposed to turned out to be the one you made the first move with and that you hardly got?

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him: yeah yeah it is! i feel in love with her but r it's not because she left me on read, or barely gave me the time of the day at first! don't listen to these dating advice sis, just be sweet and open and you will have a lot of guys fighting to marry you.

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btw i have to add that the girl he married now truly made him chase her; for REAL.

lol. these guys telling us they love nice girls also believe what they preach but they act differently