I find myself withdrawing more and more, am I the only one?

Paladin2903 · 2021-04-05T10:39:37+00:00

This world is an absolute 🤡🌍shitshow. Anyone with even a reasonable amount of intelligence is keeping to themselves, nowadays.

I was social-distancing WAY before it was ever attached to some bullshit/ridiculously hyped-up basic bitch flu.

Dealing with the Idiocracy cartoon character commies is very mentally exhausting, and I don’t have the patience or energy for these nutjobs, anymore.

Believe me, it’s not you. It’s a theme I’ve noticed with a lot of good people.

INTJ_Cro · 2021-04-05T10:27:57+00:00

Even more than money, people are jealous the most of happy people. Even if they put you down you can see clearly how miserable they are. Social networks, photoshop (instagram), fake friends, fake looks, fake personality... no thanks, I'll rather be 'boring' and happy inside.

georgesoyros · 2021-04-05T11:44:30+00:00

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

— Jiddu Krishnamurti

Timeformenow · 2021-04-05T10:27:24+00:00

No, your not the only one. More and more avoiding people as best i can. Love to work from home. Cant wait to get to heaven. Clown world.

trump4president2024 · 2021-04-05T10:24:48+00:00

Society is just miserable these days. Nothing wrong with pulling away for self preservation.

I would go as far as to say it is the natural reaction for any sane man.

Integralek · 2021-04-05T10:45:46+00:00

Dude i feel exactly same. Society now is pile of steaming garbage. Keep chasing excellence and let rest of the wold burn.

fuetdevic · 2021-04-05T10:15:46+00:00

Dispair or full action is a stage we reach eventually realising how it all works. Dispair is the default mode if you are mildly comfortable I would say. To start taking action in politics or even in an individual level, a trigger is needed. It could be rage, it could be personal difficulties, but it's never going to be mere dispair. Becoming the gray man can seem depressing from the observer's POV, but only you know how happy you are with your life, and if it is worth the energy and the risk to pursue changes.

Sir_manalot · 2021-04-05T11:19:58+00:00

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RoyalSamurai · 2021-04-05T11:48:57+00:00

This indifference you are describing, is Stoic gold.

2021-04-05T12:08:35+00:00

I guess you completed the 5 stages of grief and came out on the other side. Well done to you my friend. The stages are as follows:

Anger
Denial
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

I've joined the manosphere only in the last 5 months, initially I remember being fucking furious about how society has been pulling one over us the entire time and now I'd say I'm somewhere between denial and bargaining. Still have some blue pill tendencies and fantasies and behaviours but it's only matter of time before that flame goes out as well

Beyond_Radar · 2021-04-05T12:54:10+00:00

You are not alone. As I get older my desire to interact with people decreases, and it wasn't high to begin with.

LeonBrFerreira · 2021-04-05T10:56:46+00:00

You just fell things the way they are. Superficial to the core, senseless to the very soul. You are not wrong for been satisfied with simple things, i see myself in a similar situation: work, play, animes, sleep, repeat. If we take care of our health and save money well be good.

basedmillennial95 · 2021-04-05T14:08:28+00:00

I've been feeling this way increasingly. The way I think of it is "I'm tired." I'm not depressed, just... tired. I don't mean sleepy. I feel like my entire life has been a long, grueling day at work, and it's now approaching 5pm, and I'm just... done. As you said, if someone threatened my life, I'd laugh and tell them to make it fast - I've suffered enough.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2021-04-05T13:48:56+00:00

I think that is your brain protecting yourself from the idiocy in clown world these days. Everywhere you look in the media is some incredibly stupid thing going on that will likely negatively impact you in some way.
Frankly I used to want to save society but not any longer, if the idiots want to burn themselves to the ground then let them do it, they are their own worst enemies and soon they will create a world we all fucking hate, then most of those useless idiots will die when society collapses, good riddance. We are in for a rough ride, it is not surprising a lot of people are pulling a turtle act.

realChebz · 2021-04-05T23:05:43+00:00

The world is getting crazier every day, I personally lost any faith in humanity with everyone downing those muzzles afraid to approach someone within 6ft or else instantaneously combust or something. Then the whole country idolizing that black thug who died of OD while resisting arrest like he's some saint. Then our zombie president who can't remember his own name on a good day yet so many voted for (even accounting for election fraud). Just shows where the country's values are, it's not just the few evil elites at the top that tradcucks like to blame for everything, it's the population. Brainwashed and braindead, looking to conform and angry at those who don't.

For me it's not even about women and their 27th wave of feminism anymore, it's a complete disconnect of personal values of liberty and justice with the rest of the society. What do I have in common with them at this point?

AldrichOfAlbion · 2021-04-05T14:10:28+00:00

We are entering a turbulent time in history, because we have had it so good for so long that it has bred jealousy from people who covet that wealth, it has bred complacency in those who have enjoyed that peace and it has bred corruption in those who govern and lead our societies.

The role of MGTOW isn't just an escape from an increasingly insane outside world...this is the last bastion of freedom against the outside hordes trying to turn us all into slaves. Those women on instagram and facebook enjoy being slaves...they are well paid slaves, doing whatever their masters ask of them in exchange for unbelievable riches... we on the other hand are free... we will not sell out our history and our nations for gold pieces.

jhooperp · 2021-04-05T19:57:48+00:00

This bullshit feminist takeover since the 90s has reached its peak complete with allowing women to hit men and telling men don’t you dare hit back. With women getting less jail time for the same crime a man commits. With people expecting men to be slaves while women are served.

Main thing I can’t stand is women can have an abortion because “her body her choice” or leave a baby at government buildings with no repercussions and it’s cheered while if a man questions if a kid is his society looks down in him. If a man says he never wanted a child the response is “should’ve kept it in your pants” and “man up”.

Women have no consequences while men always do. Men are slaves and society still pushes out the fake ridiculous “male privilege” bs.

Fancy-Ad657 · 2021-04-05T13:15:59+00:00

Well, the issue is, we are all getting isolated because of this pandemic and echo chambers.

I tell you this for your own sanity, try to diversify your social contacts. Otherwise you might end up in a dark place. You need some counter balance to all of this.

I have been at that stage and it can go pretty bad.

You either need social contacts and remain in forums like this, or if you want to stay clear from women, I would suggest to disconnect from these forums.

If there is no counter balance, you will hit extremist levels and that can turn very ugly, very fast.

silly_birb · 2021-04-05T14:28:06+00:00

It's normal and it comes from your mind finally becoming free from oblogations, like for example the need to have a relationship, sex or being accepted.

Once you reach this state you feel detached because you need to find new goals that are now true to yourself.

When it happened to me i realozed that i was pissed off of never being good at mathematics and now i'm in a PhD in math. I rediscovered my passion for drawing that i had lost in highschool. Ifixed my body by going to the gym and having a laser surgery to remove glasses.

Before going my own way i was a shut in without a job and depressed because every person in this society betrayed and stabbed me in the back, the cheating gf was just the tip of the iceberg that made me notice the rotting society we live in.

TheRookie54 · 2021-04-05T15:01:10+00:00

Ok I may be only 17 and my life hasn't started yet but I oddly feel welcome here with y'all. Being a straight white male is rough these days. But I feel welcome

xinxinel · 2021-04-05T11:54:50+00:00

life is absurd, never-the-less, live it

I feel the same

somewherebeyond12 · 2021-04-05T14:02:29+00:00

I feel this exact way. First started with something that happened to me. I was one of the good guys and somebody came out of the woodwork and attacked me viciously. I lost a lot in my life and to this day don't really see much of a point in going on. There was no justice for me and nobody cares to step in.

Guys routinely commemorate each other for things like protecting those they "should" protect. But have you ever wondered if these people actually care about you??

I make it a point to against my nature of helping in general anyone who has not helped me. Don't save them.

LegendOfChunk · 2021-04-05T21:23:08+00:00

You'll notice that escaping to the woods with a small cabin and a decent internet connection is a recurring theme here. Lots of folks are posting their dream or their plans of doing so regularly. As a man, society wants you up against the wall. Going your own way usually ends up by going out the door completely.

It's not that you don't care about anything. I would argue it's that you don't care about the world's expectations of you and its agenda for you. You care, just not about the things this world wants you to care about. Take your dog and anime and computer games out to a small piece of the world you can call your own and live in peace. The only way to win is to not play.

TigPlaze · 2021-04-05T13:55:20+00:00

Same here. I don't want any of the damn drama. More and more I just want to be left alone.

MyFatThumb · 2021-04-05T14:23:53+00:00

You're not alone. I've benefited from the covid restrictions, I couldn't care less if I caught the WuFlu but I'm enjoying the social distancing. Outside of work I don't interact with anyone.

Wildhouse83 · 2021-04-05T18:27:08+00:00

You describe a logical response to an illogical society. I feel absolutely the same way. Just like George Carlin said: If you are born a human in this world, you get a ticket to the freak show. If you live in the US (or the West in general), you have a front row seat.

roflcopt0rz_returns · 2021-04-05T19:00:29+00:00

This is MGTOW once you get past the entrance. MGTOW is not just about avoiding women, it’s about avoiding toxic people in general. It’s about learning the value of not just freedom, but solitude.

iseedeer · 2021-04-05T14:16:40+00:00

but some people are saying they're seeing a change in me

Are these people by chance among those who benefitted from you striving and producing when you still believed in the system?

Its a weird feeling, almost like life without purpose

This is the doing of our loving government. Society wants us to feel that if we are not jumping through hoops for the circus masters then we 'have no purpose'.

You owe society nothing. Let it burn.

lord_of_memezz · 2021-04-05T15:33:38+00:00

I feel the same way (minus the life ending bit), when I was younger the world seemed a decent place: People were nice to each other, women actually acted feminine, prices for things were not retarded, and there was no social media corrupting people. Sure there was a war here and there and not everyone was nice but life seemed decent. Now as I age each year seems to get worse than the last one. Retards on YouTube not giving one ounce of benefit to the world are making millions while our doctors/nurses/teachers/and police get shafted and are overworked, every woman seems to have an OnlyFans now, PC/Cancel culture are ruining young people, and traditional values are pretty much out the window.

Most people are so careless of others that you can not even meet up with new people just for a drink without being ghosted. We live in a self serve world with no community anymore that is only going to get more worse as the years go by. I am planning my exit to live a more nomadic life and hopefully find a community of people I can belong to, but I am not holding my breath. Stay strong everyone.

NovaPrimer · 2021-04-05T13:50:33+00:00

Individuality is priceless

9trogenta · 2021-04-05T15:40:33+00:00

So you're like that guy.

Don't let them decide your own mental state.

ShinichiHaku · 2021-04-05T18:42:25+00:00

Anomie. You are completely checked out of Clown World and its bullshit because you know it doesn't affect you. This terrifies the feminine, females, soyboys etc because it means you don't care about their trivial bullshit or even if they live or die.

It also means you cannot be manipulated because they have nothing you want. Fact is, Earth exists solely for the bread and circuses, anything beyond that is solely the purview of works of fiction and this world? Just not worth saving.

Barring complete reality revision or escapist fiction, withdrawing isn't the problem. It is the solution.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y25YNTmd/PRO-is-RIGHT-about-NPCs.png

https://i.postimg.cc/nVDQLTwB/Anomie6.jpg

TDG0922 · 2021-04-05T20:23:06+00:00

There's nothing wrong with rejecting degeneracy.

I too live a similar life

OkCow8205 · 2021-04-06T10:14:11+00:00

I feel exactly the same. It's a peaceful numbness. Not depression. In addition, it gets more enjoyable with time. Definitely weird but I'm in a more peaceful state than ever.

buildrooms · 2021-04-05T16:51:34+00:00

I went through something identical, and maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I took it to mean I had achieved the end goal of MGTOW, nirvana.

Nirvana in Sanskrit means "the blowing out." It is understood as the extinguishment of the flame of personal desire, the quenching of the fire of life. Among Westerners Nirvana is often thought of as a negative state, a kind of "nothingness." But in the Buddhist scriptures it is always described in positive terms; the highest refuge, safety, emancipation, peace, and the like. Nirvana is freedom, but not freedom from circumstance; it is freedom from the bonds with which we have bound ourselves to circumstance. That man is free who is strong enough to say, "Whatever comes I accept as best."

2021-04-05T17:38:45+00:00

It is a process, you are living for himself not others. I just found a article in my notebook(don't remember where i found it), about meaning of life and sorry about the text is huge , but if gives you a glimpse about what is your the change, it was worth it:

Dear Friend,

This question must have arisen in different forms to many of us. But to ask for a meaning of something, the thing must first be understood, right? So, you are asking what is purpose of life and I would like to ask you first, ‘What is life?’

This eating, walking, sleeping and dying; is this life? Before you ask that what is purpose of life, you need to understand what is the meaning of being alive.

We say that we are alive. But what is meant by being alive? All the activities that we do from morning to evening, a good machine, a sufficiently advanced machine can replicate all of them. A good machine can walk, it can react in particular situation in particular ways, it can talk, it can have all the senses that you have; it can even be made to breathe.

Breath is nothing but the oxygen that goes in.

What you call as ‘blood’ is nothing but the combination of a particular mixture of chemicals, even that too can be prepared.

Then, what is this ‘being alive’?

Do you understand what is being alive?

What do you mean when you say that I am alive?

How do you know that somebody’s alive?

To be alive means to go beyond your programming.

Do you go beyond that programming?

How many seconds in a day?

A camera is a machine. When sound waves reach the camera, they get recorded, just as in a human being. But there is something happening to you which cannot happen to any camera. That intelligence, that ability to understand, that is the characteristic of being alive; the ability to understand.

And the one who does not understand is actually dead. He may appear to be laughing, he may appear to be thinking, but these actions are something that a machine can also do.

Life is intelligence.

· Machines have their purpose but whatever is alive cannot have a purpose.

· This machine will have a purpose because somebody has designed it to have a purpose. Intelligence has no purpose, intelligence has not targets, it just understands, it knows. Just knows, complete knowing.

To ask for a purpose of life is a self-defeating question because only mechanical systems are programmed for purposes.

Anybody who has a purpose in life is actually not living, because to live is to really live in constant intelligence.

All purposes come from the external master.

To ask for a purpose is to ask for a life of slavery.

Life has no purpose, machines have their purposes and those purposes of machines are the purposes of their masters.

· All purposes come from outside.

· All purposes are thoughts, conditioning, they come from outside.

Were you born with a purpose? No.

Were you always thinking the idea of the purpose? No.

That means that the thought of purpose is coming from somebody, it is not your own.

To take a purpose in life is to remain a slave because purpose is always in the future, to be obtained, to achieve. ‘There is a purpose and I can achieve it’. Whereas life is right now.

Can anybody breathe in the future? You are right now. Life is right now. All purposes are in the future. Whenever you say that there is the goal, the target, the purpose in the future, it means you are condemning yourself. I am in the present and the life is in the present, hence to have a purpose is to kill life.

You keep on saying that there is the purpose, that is the real thing and you are here. But if that is the real thing then what will be the quality of your life? - Frustrated, bored, anxious; a perpetual waiting, waiting for the purpose in life, waiting for the goal, for the target to be achieved.

How does it feel to wait and keep waiting, because if life has a purpose, surely that purpose can be realized only in future?

To have a purpose and to achieve that purpose means that there is a full stop right now. ‘I have achieved the purpose, that’s it. I have reached my destination. Now I can get out of the train.’ Do you continuously sit in the train? No. After the station comes you get off the train. So purpose means full stop.

· Do you wonder why you are always bored?

· Why do you always need entertainment?

- You are always looking for the entertainment because your mind is always dull and bore, because you have kept a purpose, and you require fun. But these things are a disease because you have kept some targets and goals in mind. You are saying that the real thing will happen sometime in future. That is the real event, the fantastic thing which is worth living for. And if that is the real thing, then what is the value of this?

You are not to be blamed. That is what our education and our upbringing has taught us, that the real thing is the result. If the real thing is the result, then what is the worth of working or studying now?

So whenever you come to the book, you come with a purpose in the mind and that purpose is to get marks. Hence, there is no love between you and the book, hence the book remains just a medium for you.

And forget about the book, you come to even the individuals with a purpose. You do not approach anybody purposelessly. When you go to somebody, you always have a purpose in mind; that this is what I will get from him, that this is what I expect from him, and there is the exploitation.

Does a leaf follow any purpose? The leaf just is.

When the wind comes, the leaf dances. That’s it.

When the heat is too strong, the leaf dies, withers away. That’s it.

And it’s so disturbing to many. “Oh my God! Nothing to do.” When the wind comes, then move and dance, and when your time is up, then go away. That’s it.

Life is right now. The understanding, the fact that we are awake; this is life. Life needs no purpose, it is complete.

The content for the answer is coming from my blog “Words into Silence”. I invite you to read the blog for deeper clarity and understanding of life.

MGTOWfromEAST · 2021-04-05T18:29:05+00:00

Wisdom has entered the chat.

ElectricalCost0 · 2021-04-05T23:15:00+00:00

Either you’re normal or we’re both nuts.

Nighthanger · 2021-04-06T04:27:18+00:00

It's always some goofy aggressive female saying she's offended.

Alexius_von_Meinong · 2021-04-06T07:21:34+00:00

This is how societies die. When a society becomes sick, people spontaneously and voluntarily pull away from it. At first it seems like just a few oddballs, but as the numbers grow it saps society, which is eventually hollowed out and collapses under its own weight.

masenkos · 2021-04-05T13:11:19+00:00

As long as your needs are met by your routine then keep on keeping on.

Joh_Ghurt · 2021-04-05T16:00:04+00:00

Let me add something positive to the discussion.

Yes, you're right the world seems to deteriorate and everything seems hopeless. Dissenting voices are silenced and deplatformed, people with wrong-think are hunt down and anyone daring to doubt the great and mighty leaders will be shames and shunned. This creates a growing class of losers and deplorables in the shadows and a lot of effort is spent that those don't sully the bright ordained truth. Really sad for anyone with no place in the sunshine.

But at the same time, in those shadows cracks form in the bright facade, unseen by the children of the light. Some of the losers might want to take action and rebel - those are squashed ruthlessly. But others just start to carve out little pockets for themselves and try not to be noticed. Real sub-cultures are created, quite a few actually quite friendly and nice. This happened during communism in Eastern Europe, this happened with nerds creating the comic-book, science-fiction and video-gamer culture. This happened with hippie and surfer communes. If enough people get pushed out, they start their own thing on the outside.

And in these politically correct times, it happens again. I know it, because I see t every day. Not every subculture is for everyone, true, but there are many pockets of sanity unseen in the cracks of the officially ordained reality.

Just do your thing, associate with like-minded people and make a nice place for yourself and those you like and who respect you. Stop worrying about the big problems, the crazies, the disaster-mongers. Just make your own immediate environment better and less toxic.

2021-04-05T19:06:25+00:00

You're stoic

2021-04-05T19:58:12+00:00

pretty much hit the nail on the head for me

Smokkmundur · 2021-04-05T20:10:59+00:00

Hey man I feel the same. Feel like life's pointless.

I'm thinking of taking some mushrooms and going on a walk next time it's beautiful weather. I've done this previously and it never fails to renew my joy for being alive.

RemoteGuava · 2021-04-06T04:20:24+00:00

I know that feel. I'm in Canada where the media explicitly tells us that our own country doesn't belong to us. As such, it's not our problem to fix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

bieberblows · 2021-04-06T04:30:14+00:00

I gave up on people long ago. I got sick of being used and abused. Now I take care of myself. There is nothing out there for me. Its awesome having my own place and doing whatever I want. No need to deal with people or their drama.

jred47899 · 2021-04-06T06:55:47+00:00

I have this problem seeing intelligent people having incredibly stupid and hysterical reactions on current covid situation. I feel like nobody is worth any help.

Jimmysparkzz · 2021-04-06T11:31:07+00:00

237 Upvotes

237 people agree with the sentiment expressed by this individual.

Being content is a wonderful state.

Most_Insane_F2P · 2021-04-06T12:01:14+00:00

Attack on titan was great.

Yes I'm more comfortable withdrawing more and more.

Mouse utopia was right. The rest are getting more insane by the day.

MrA_H0Ie · 2021-04-07T00:17:07+00:00

Same here. But more extreme. I just make sure I cash out at the right time and invest when I see a good deal, rinse and repeat. Then watch Hololive all day. I don't need to see another human.

Common-Eye-7594 · 2021-04-08T02:32:40+00:00

No I am also hy myself but when outside when I feel I want to be surrounded by people outdise of working context (twice per week) I am very easygoing and assertive but 0 sucking up and simping toward anybody and I make that ckear with just body language and few well plaved kind words throygh analogy.

Never let negative taughts, wjich are mormal, hamper you to the point you over isolate.

bitlingr · 2021-04-22T15:34:49+00:00

I see myself doing this too. It seems like it's just me, my girlfriend, my parents, and the dog. I get along with coworkers, but I don't go out of my way to find friends I have similar interests with.

Title	I find myself withdrawing more and more, am I the only one?
Author	Reeeediot
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Date	April 5, 2021 9:39 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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