Then suddenly you will be telling her, that she needs to be wary of strange men approaching her. You're gonna tell her to never get into a car with a strange man. When she grows older you will maybe feel a little uncomfortable when she wears revealing clothing to her night out. You will eventually want to meet her boyfriend, just to know that he has his head on straight.
Then all of a sudden, it is all men, because of course, you are a man and "you know how they can be sometimes".
But when women have been telling you all along, how we need to be wary of men you call us "feminazis" and "man-haters", because we have been harrassed, assaulted, beaten and murdered and we just want our peace. How hard is it to understand that we just want to be left alone? That we want to be able to live our days without this constant background fear? I hope you will understand someday.
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Edit: "Oh no you got it completely wrong, my children should be wary of ALL strangers!" Of course that's true but, when your daughter goes out alone at night and you tell her to be safe, what is she supposed to be safe from? Other women? Children? A bear? Are you kidding?
[–]locks_are_paranoid 29 points30 points31 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a man and I know not to get in the car of anyone I don't know, regardless of gender. This is just basic common sense, and isn't gender specific.
[–]bufedad 61 points62 points63 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a daughter, its still not all men.
In raising a daughter, not a bigot
[–]40moreyears 37 points38 points39 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I have two daughters. It’s still not #allmen.
[–]saiyanultimate 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That crap has over 16k upvotes , what the hell man
[–]Reasonable_Amoeba_89 12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What a bunch of total BS
I teach my son about "Stranger Danger" this is not unique to women.
Like getting into a car with a strange woman is a good idea? Nope, I teach him not to get into a car with strangers
Nope, that's what women do. Can't keep her in a nun's habit all of her life.
I'd definitely want to meet my son's girlfriend. I mean it's just pur curiosity! I also want to make sure she's not a lunatic and is a nice person and will treat him right. What parent wouldn't want that for their children?
This is just pure misandry right there. I know how both sexes can be at times. This reddit is full of stories of female pedos etc.
You bet! Young men are by FAR the most likely to be subject to a crime. They're in the highest demographic. So yes, I'm hoping that I've taught them well and they take care of themselves and make sensible decisions.
I also hope and pray I've taught them NOT to be a sexist bigot like this poster clearly is.
[–]97sirdogealot 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes fathers telling their daughters to be careful and teaching them to defend themselves is equivalent to feminazis trashing all men for the actions of some men. /s
For feminists lurks here:
The difference between those two people is that one is saying there are bad men out there and the other is saying men are bad.
[–]you_fuckme_i_fuckyou 28 points29 points30 points (1 child) | Copy Link
We need to tell boys that sex and intimacy is enjoyable only when the girl/woman is worth it. It's much better to be single forever than dating a bitch leech.
[–]falldown010 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
We're on a good track though,the red pill is spreading and more men are waking up. We just need to sit back because women themselfs are doing the work for us by destroying it themselfs xD
[–]DanteLivra 13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
In her edits she imply that only men are a treat to a child.
Like, this is so naive I almost feel bad for the poor kid.
[–]SHINSEGA 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes we need to warn our young boys about the signs to look for and not to believe what is force fed to boys about "what women like". Use your eyes, if you see them liking different things than what they tell you. Then you know how to spot bullshit. However a smart man is clever about dealing with bullshit. We have to be. But thinkin it's all men or all women just makes people bitter and rotten inside and it only ends up hurting yourself.
[–]catsinbananahats 13 points14 points15 points (2 children) | Copy Link
True that, some of the biggest men's activists are mothers
[–]dmann27 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Really? If you don't mind could you share some examples? I would like to read that. This is not sarcastic, it's genuine btw sorry if it sounds weird
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad -4 points-3 points-2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
they are pro-men. They are pro-their agenda (that being her family/her good feels). They have no right to the name of "men's activist".
[–]unjustexistence 23 points24 points25 points (17 children) | Copy Link
Broad generalizations about men hurt everyone. Women need to grow up and start treating men with respect.
[–]97sirdogealot 6 points7 points8 points (16 children) | Copy Link
Something isn't consistent here.
[–]Drippinice 7 points8 points9 points (15 children) | Copy Link
I think he meant feminists but the comment still does ring true
[–]97sirdogealot -1 points0 points1 point (14 children) | Copy Link
Ring true how?
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 12 points13 points14 points (13 children) | Copy Link
women only respect men when it suits them, same with anything else.
[–]97sirdogealot 1 point2 points3 points (12 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. Many women do that. But my point is that all women don't. If you are bothered by feminists using "all men" to generalize men (rightfully so) why do you think it's alright for you to do the same when talking about women?
[–]Mentlegenxd 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
He's making a point
[–]97sirdogealot 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
A worthless one. Not much better than whatever drivel the feminists are spouting nowadays.
[–]Mentlegenxd 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's exactly what it is, I obviously don't agree with it but it lies on the same principles as the "all men are bad"
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Diplomatic rule of equal response. And women should pray that men dont use more real life diplomacy, really.
[–]97sirdogealot 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You may chose to do that on a personal level and suffer whatever consequences that come as a result of doing it. But I think it is better for people in the Men's Rights Movement to not abase themselves as many feminists have done. If they do, then whatever they gain from doing so is eventually going to be worthless.
[–]peter_venture 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
So, #NotAllWomen?
[–]97sirdogealot 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah.
[–]peter_venture 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Shouldn't the women it doesn't apply to already know that and not be worried about it? You know, like it doesn't have to be said for men, because they should know if it doesn't apply to them?
[–]97sirdogealot -1 points0 points1 point (3 children) | Copy Link
If it didn't had to be said specifically for men then the entire post would be pointless. In discussions about broad generalizations it is necessary to be specific about whether you actually mean all men/women or not. Like way I said "Many women..." implying that "Not all Women". But since he just said "women" I have to assume he meant "All Women". Also his responses kinda point towards that. If he hadn't meant all women he would've just said that and be done with but he stuck to defending the point.
[–]UnconventionalXY 7 points8 points9 points (10 children) | Copy Link
Once again the narrative focuses on females to the exclusion of anyone else. It's not about you, the universe doesn't revolve around you: it's about everyone and our interconnectedness.
Children are taught to be wary of strangers and not to get in a strange car because it is a dangerous world out there in which it is impossible to reduce wrongdoing to zero, so we encourage reducing the opportunity of harm whilst also addressing the crimes that have occurred: it's not about females because wrongdoing doesn't limit itself to gender.
It's little different for adults in reality, except we hopefully understand why.
The narrative from women suggests they are not interested in understanding why: they just want everything their own way, regardless of the impact on anyone else.
Harassed, assaulted and murdered are not equal in their effect, yet women seem to combine them into a single "offenses against women" issue that they want to address with the same solution: criminalisation of men with calls for "kill all men" as the ultimate solution. If that isn't bad enough, women are overreaching to include anything a woman is uncomfortable about under that banner.
Seriously, kill all men, for women being uncomfortable, shows just how far off the rails women have gone in their hysterical pursuit of absolute selfishness without any rational regard to the consequences to themselves or anyone else. The fact that women are looking to cloning methods to support "kill all men" is frankly obscene and highlights they are not thinking rationally at all, but clutching at straws to justify appalling solutions.
Until women decide to have a rational debate about proportionality and perspective, then I don't think they should be responded to and certainly not with laws that implement their unreasoned solution to what they think is their problem.
I think women are coming into conflict between biology and self-determination. Because of biology, men pursue women for sex. This is not harassment but a fundamental biological process. Until it is accepted that this exists, regardless of its impact, we can't go any further towards a resolution.
Now, it's reasonable to consider self-determination for everyone in modern society. Women and men choosing when they have sex and with whom is one aspect. The problem is that women's choice impacts men's choice and so we have a dilemma. Whilst the basic interest in sex is probably similar between men and women, I think it also needs to be accepted that men have a much stronger drive for sex than women because of their hormones. Consequently, women's choice has a disproportionate impact on men and thus the potential for frustration. I suggest that it is this frustration that is leading to most of the issues being experienced by women.
The solution is not to force women to have sex when they don't want to, or to harass them for sex, but to find a way to support men's choice as equally as women's choice by providing greater options to men for sexual expression. I do not intend to solve this issue myself, but simply put it out there as a discussion point.
The other aspect I wish to touch on is women believing they have the right not to feel uncomfortable and to punish someone for creating that situation: no-one has the right not to feel uncomfortable. Discomfort is a subjective reaction to a stimulus and there is a reason that stimulus exists. When the source of that stimulus is another person, one sides subjective reaction in accordance with what they want is not necessarily justification for the other side to vary what they want.
Ideally, in a conflict between wants there should be a determination of what each side fundamentally wants, not an already determined solution to that want, and then a negotiation around a solution that aims for a win-win, not a win-lose or lose-lose.
I mention this, because women are wanting to criminalise men looking at them in ways that result in them feeling uncomfortable as being equivalent to rape. If women do really feel the same whether a man is looking at them in a particular way or violently penetrating them against their will, then society has a huge issue with understanding the basis of perspective and proportionality, because the stimuli are nothing alike.
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 2 points3 points4 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Solution is both extremally easy, and one that feminists will never agree to: A) legalise sex workers and remove any stigma from men using their services, B) forced open relationships on our (men's) side - no woman should have a right to even be informed on if/with who/when we have sex.
Problem solved.
[–]googless4 -1 points0 points1 point (4 children) | Copy Link
Agree totally with A but B is just nonsense.
There's no reason for that to be a thing.
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 4 points5 points6 points (3 children) | Copy Link
B is there to stop women shaming men for getting their needs met. If she wants to retain her partner, she must strive to be good and accesible enough for him to see her as a partner as per his expectations and his standards.
If she does not, too bad. Another will.
[–]UnconventionalXY -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't agree with that approach. I think making it a level playing field and removing the power of extortion women currently have over men will be enough to change everything. Once again, women will have to offer men something in order to engage long enough to raise a child that she wants.
There's a difference now between having sex for pleasure (a mutual thing) and raising children: they are both separate things and should be treated separately.
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It would, but we should obviously want as much as possible for our own good.
[–]googless4 -2 points-1 points0 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, for those things you can always breakup if it's a deal breaker. No need to have a forceful open relationship on only one side my dude
[–]UnconventionalXY -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
Men and women should have equal rights when it comes to whom they have sex with, however it shatters the basis of relationships when it comes to child raising: few men are going to want to commit 18 years of his resources to support a child that may not even be his and when he is not receiving sex and it should be illegal to coerce such a slavish existence.
The whole nature of society is going to have to change to ensure equal rights.
It's the women I most feel sorry for: many of them will be unable to have children because men will be keeping their distance for fear of being enslaved or criminalised and that broken trust will not be easily restored. The current system enslaves men into a rape (of his body for resources) culture over 18 years and needs to be overthrown: women have to offer something in exchange to make it worthwhile; it's always been that way.
[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women unable to have children? Im so very very not my business and not my problem.
[–]Angryasfk -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
Unconventional, you’ve been pushing that a fair bit. I’m not gay. I’m not physically attracted to a man’s body. That’s not going to fly.
As for women. I’ve known women who were obsessed with sex, and got VERY angry if they didn’t get it when they wanted it. Women do have their cycle though.
Now, if someone is ready to go MGTOW, and just buy a an expensive doll, good for them. But promoting homosexuality is hardly a solution. And it does nothing to deal with feminists seeking to squeeze men out of jobs, law making, etc.
And the women who seek to criminalise looking at them the wrong way aren’t going to be put off their campaign by “alternative forms of male sexual expression”!
Be wary of women? Yes! Force women to have sex against their will? That’s rape! It’s not the same as getting your SO to agree to sex when she isn’t really in the mood - and women do this too! That’s because the key word is “force”! Men need to protect themselves in this climate. And the ultimate solution is to stop feminists demands! And that can only mean pointing out the lies, the injustice, the double standards to as many people as we possibly can! So long as politicians think pandering to feminists is the key to winning women’s votes, just avoiding women is harm reduction at best.
[–]UnconventionalXY 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I seriously doubt most men in prison having sex are gay and it is possible for straight men to have recreational sex together without either being homosexual: it already happens except it's not publicised for obvious reasons of homophobic attack.
At the end of the day it is principally about the sexual experience for men and engaging with another person adds to that experience. If you wish to talk about a love dimension, then that is something different again and which I do believe involves attraction, however I stand by the possibility of "guy on guy not gay" for recreational sex.
I was only addressing the sexual fulfilment aspect and I believe you are right about tackling that with greater options for men will do nothing about feminisms other goals. However, I think the only way through this is with equal fundamental rights replacing fragmented gender based rights and rationality triumphing over hysteria, else we risk doing to women what we are accusing them of doing to us and two wrongs don't make a right.
[–]YouLookGoodInASmile 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I am that daughter.
I still say it isnt all men. These people are idiots.
[–]ZS_1171 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Disgusting!
[–]SharedRegime 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No its not all men because of Emmet Till.
But they wouldnt remember that.
[–]BloodyTamponExtracto 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
My daughter just graduated high school and is heading to college in a month. This woman's post does not resonate with me at all. In 18 years, I don't recall ever teaching her to be afraid of men; or even thinking that she should be.
Starting as a toddler, I pretty much taught her one thing: Make good decisions for yourself. Yes, there were lots of ancillary things like how to fix a toilet, tools for dealing with heartbreak and how to drive. But when it wasn't a specific issue at hand, the lesson always was "make good decisions for yourself". Because when Dad isn't there to make good decisions for you, what are you gonna do?
So, yeah, she knows that there are bad people out there. And she knows that of the people who want to do her harm, there's probably more men than women. But she doesn't live her life in fear of men. She lives her life being wary of those people who might want to do her harm.
That means not getting black-out drunk at a party, or getting into a car with a guy she knows and he 2 drunk friends, or not sending nudes to people, or not loaning a friend more money than you're willing to lose.
When she goes to college, I want her to enjoy it and live and learn and meet new people and have new experiences. If she stays locked in her dorm room and only leaves for class a meals because she afraid of all the scary men in the big scary world outside, I'll consider myself a failure as a parent.
[–]ZS_1171 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"You know how they can be sometimes"
[–]ImportantResults 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They have to make up fictional scenarios with fictional people and fictional teachings to find themselves right.
[–]NeonOverflow 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how the downright delusional original poster pretends that women don't abuse the societal assumption that they are more trustworthy in abduction schemes.
[–]Revolutionary_Catt -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
Then when they are 20 or 30 you will wonder why your child is filled anxiety and fear of everyone, alone in an apartment ordering everything from online. Eventually seeing men as an alien species from a different planet & are who are not human beings what so ever.
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Imagine if you replaced “men” with black people or jews and said that to your daughter…
Collective punishment is againts international law and it amazes me how people dont know about it nor remember it was the Nazis/Slavery that brought on collective punishment.
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