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That it came to a Court to void a ruling that a sperm donor must pay child support is why this sub is needed.

benderXX

June 20, 2021

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Title	That it came to a Court to void a ruling that a sperm donor must pay child support is why this sub is needed.
Author	benderXX
Upvotes	395
Comments	76
Date	June 20, 2021 11:35 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/o43q1g/that_it_came_to_a_court_to_void_a_ruling_that_a/
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So it’s a 13 year old rape victims fault they’re paying their rapist child maintenance and not the system which it appears is clearly biased against men in this regard?

What then about the veteran who couldn’t pay child support as he was a PoW in Iraq at the time and was arrested regardless as soon as he stepped foot in the USA after being set free:

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19901216&slug=1109727

Either way, the case Hermesmann vs Seyer set a precedent that a woman can pursue the father of her child, regardless of circumstance (eg if she committed rape to become pregnant) so that in the future, any child who finds himself unfortunate enough to be in a similar situation will have no option but to pay child maintenance to his rapist:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer

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Keep in mind he is a victim of rape ,he might be suffering from trauma and beacuse of being a male i doubt his family or other organizations would be of much help . He only got to know about child support when he turned 18 ,it was done so purposefully by the court So ,it would be too late to get out of it . And he was even made to pay child support of time he was minor with interest on it . And why on earth did court give custody to a rapist and pedophile. And you make it sound like there was nothing wrong with the legal system, its just one example of how flaw it is . Trust me no one is blaming women as a gender here ,but only the ones who get away with it ,just beacuse they are male . And you said he should just leave the country or get of the grid why should he be the one to do so ,when is is clearly the victim of rape and pedophilia . And do you know how hard it is to get support for male issues especially from government and opposition from all kinds different organizations and misandrists. YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE IT BUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS REALLY MESSED UP .

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Isn’t that the possibility every time someone has sex? The only way to fix that is to literally set up some kind of legally binding contract before each consensual sexual encounter. And it’s great that you’re for abortion, however that option is being whittled away in every state at every turn. Unfortunately because women carry the children the burden is on them, hence why the system is tilted the way it is. Is it right, perhaps not. Does everyone involved have a responsibility in the caring for the child (one way or another, yes). The ideal would be everyone has a sense of responsibility in protecting themselves from having children as a result of a casual encounter. And if a pregnancy results and after a discussion and one person or the other doesn’t want the child; in this case the male, but the female does...then she should be solely responsible. However in the end we all pay regardless, because if she isn’t self sufficient that kid ends up in foster care or using WIC etc. and you do realize that child support system is supposed to incentivize fathers to be in their kids lives (now that’s a whole separate issue from courts not granted 50-50 custody for bullshit reasons and is another can of worms entirely. For every story of a man supposedly saddled with child support for a kid he didn’t want, there’s stories of a legit dead beat, POS father who did in fact neglect his child when he had custody and never paid child support. I have heard stories from both fathers and mothers dealing with a shit DNA donor of either sex. TLDR; people (male female) can be shitty and the system hasn’t caught up yet.

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Or at the very least, be very careful who you sleep with, know their intentions, wear condoms, make sure they're on birth control, etc.

That is a lot simpler than having a potentially irreversible procedure done.

Obviously, if you 100% know you don't want kids, yeah, get it done. But if you're iffy? Don't.

I'm pretty sure I don't ever want kids. But I might meet the right girl and want to start a family, so I'm not going for the nuclear option just yet. Instead we have an adult discussion early on when sex is on the table, and I lay out my concerns.

If she isn't on birth control, I want her to go on it. If she refuses, that's 100% her choice. But it's also my choice to walk away if that's what she chooses, because I'm not going to be roped in, accidentally or not, to a child I do not currently want with a woman I have not decided to spend the rest of my life with.

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