Men commit ‘Serious Suicide Attempts’ (SSA) significantly more than females.

djc_tech · 2020-10-27T13:24:41+00:00

I’ve been there, twice. And what did my depression and suicide attempts get me? My wife divorced me, the moment I needed help she shut off, after years of me being there through her stuff.

I may have not been as supportive because I didn’t know what to say or do, but never left because of it. I struggled and she shut off and decided her job was more important.

This is when I realized as a guy, there’s little to no help for you if you struggle. People don’t care, they really don’t.

AskingToFeminists · 2020-10-27T13:46:00+00:00

A disappointing part of the "discussion" section :

Why are there gender differences in suicide intent? The results presented above support previous evidence showing that males have a higher intent to die than females. This evokes questions as to why this would be the case.

Indeed, it does.

Some theorists contend that females attempt suicide earlier in the evolution of psychiatric morbidity than males, which might represent less of an intention to die, and more a desire to communicate distress or change their social environment [21, 22].

Well, that's not a reason "why", though. Like many things could be at play there. It could be that it's just how women and men are wired, sure. But it also could be that men have learned there's no benefit trying to use their display of suffering to try to affect their social environment, that it just doesn't work. Or any number of things.

Another theory suggests that because males have a higher intent to die than females, females may be more reluctant to perform a SSA because it is considered ‘masculine’ [6].

Who came first, the chicken or the egg?

These gender-specific beliefs and attitudes towards self-harm may contribute to the explanation of young men’s low rates of suicidal behaviour and their high rates of suicide mortality [43], however, more research needs to be conducted in this area in order to develop concrete theories to support prevention efforts.

Not even passing consideration is given to the idea that, maybe, just maybe, the social situation is worse to live in as a man than otherwise, that men might actually have more reasons to want to kill themselves.

Remember folks, when reading social. Sciences, questioning the church of womenworsting is not an option. They already stray in dangerous territory, do not ask too much.

AskingToFeminists · 2020-10-27T13:32:10+00:00

An interesting article. Although I would raise a point that might be lost to those who don't read it in its entirety : significant is meant in the "statistically significant" meaning of the term. If your sample size and measure is precise enough, a 0.1% difference between two population can be called "significant". It just means that it isn't lost in the noise.

If you look at the paper, for all men, you have SSA for 57% of the sample, but for women, it's 48.6%.

So while a difference of 10% is not a small difference, it still doesn't account for the difference of a factor 4 in the number of men dying of suicide compared to women. Particularly given that this is a percentage relative to the total number of suicide attempts, which means that the absolute number of women engaging in SSA is still higher than the absolute number of men.

So this study doesn't explain that much.

SirDrippinBalls · 2020-10-27T12:29:37+00:00

Glad "serious suicide attempt" is specified. Never understood why people who are allegedly suicidal are swallowing pills and then survive (what a surprise) if they can get a Shotgun for 200 bucks (Edit: in America) and just blow their brains out, which has a enormous higher lethality rate

MsEvil_Doctor_Potter · 2020-10-28T19:52:49+00:00

It's probably due to toxic masculinity teaching them to bottle up their feelings or mental illness and not talk about it or tell anyone

Title	Men commit ‘Serious Suicide Attempts’ (SSA) significantly more than females.
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