And then I checked myself...WHY am I feeling this way? He’s not doing anything wrong, he’s just playing with two little girls the same way I would, why is this seen as strange in our society? (USA).
I watched them and kind of stood back because I like to let my daughter play and build independence without me right next to her 24/7, but I was close enough to hear what was being said and watch them interact. He did literally nothing wrong, nothing weird, he was amazing with the way he spoke to them and I wanted to ask if he was a teacher because he was just really great with small children. My daughter was totally comfortable around him and asked him to put her in a swing. He went to pick her up and stopped, looked at me and asked if it was ok. It was and the kids swung together and had fun then we said goodbye and everything was fine.
I wish it was more acceptable for men to be great with kids without the stigma that there must be an underlying reason for it. It was really one of those “wow” moments where I caught myself in a very biased thought pattern.
TL/DR: Grown man at the park with his daughter/granddaughter was interacting really well with my daughter and the girls were playing together, I caught myself thinking he might be a creep but I had zero reason to.
Edit: thank you for the awards! I didn’t think this would get very much attention. Men, don’t let people discourage you from having fun with kids. Kids are freaking amazing and hilarious and can be great company, don’t miss out on the early years, play with your kids and continue to be great dads, grandpas, uncles, and brothers. You are needed just as much as mother figures are.
[–]Jesus_marley 19 points20 points21 points (2 children) | Copy Link
It the attitude of that op that led to me facing 5 security personnel in a men's room when I brought my infant daughter with me to change her diaper.
I did nothing wrong, but the assumption that male= evil that pervades Western society is something I face every single day. It destroys me inside that I can't tell my daughter why I won't bring her to the park. That if I do so, some moral scold will question my motives, that I will have to avert my eyes and shuffle my feet so I don't get the cops called on me for existing near children.
I'm glad she recognized her bias, but that isn't enough.
[–]KannNixFinden 21 points22 points23 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What else than posting about it and encouraging men to play with kids is she supposed to do? I am curious if you have something specific in mind?
[–]JustJamie- 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If people don't see dad's at the park then no one will get used to it and it will never become normal. When my dad took me to school the moms would give him horrible dirty looks. When my husband took my kids to school there was never an issue. There were several dad's there. Please take your daughter to the park.
[–]Tmomp 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Should we teach women not to be sexist so they don't have to live most of their lives before realizing their sexism?
[–]One_Dey 23 points24 points25 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I worry every time my 15 yr old son is around a young female teacher. I read more stories about this than I’ve ever read about men/children.
[–]Immastopya 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry too much. Just make sure that your son only had underage sex with fellow students. (Its pretty rare, don't sweat it. If it really was that common, it wouldn't be news)
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it’s absolutely disgusting how nobody gives a shit if the female teacher seduces the underage boy, because it’s “every boy’s DREAM!” Or if the female student tries to seduce the happily married male teacher despite him telling her to back off numerous times, he’s the one who gets in trouble because of that rotten little bitch getting mad at him for rightfully turning her down.
Someone downvoted me once because of a story about this gym teacher (M) sleeping with an underage HS girl and I pointed out the double standard and was told “well he IS the adult!” Oh ok so when it’s a female teacher, she’s suddenly not the adult?
This shit has to stop. Seriously. A good friend of mine is trying to become a special Ed teacher and he’s a guy. I said to him if anybody gives him shit because he’s a male teacher, I always have his back and won’t let anyone ruin his life. His father is a professor and some chick tried getting him in trouble, but they had enough proof that my friend’s dad didn’t do anything and she just kind of disappeared.
[–]LolwhatYesme 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This was a very heartwarming read*, and not something I'd expect to find on such a hateful sub.
Having said that, this is just a baby step. This is just one specific issue... it's great that their eyes have been opened up to this particular form of prejudice, but it's just the tip of the iceberg.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I would be suspicious of any stranger talking to my child, regarding of gender.
[–]jinladen040 2 points3 points4 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Not everyone is suspicious with a man and his children. Just feminazis that constantly look for men to do something wrong so they can point their finger.
[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Are you sure about that, there was a thread the other day that showed that in some countries men (with a few exceptions) can't adopt a female child for no other reason than they are men. Imagine the uproar with women weren't allowed to adopt male children OR how about this one, if you are a female teacher you can't adopt a male child.
[–]jinladen040 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
That was in New Zealand and is about adopting. This is about a father with his children. I don't agree with single men not being able to adopt in NZ though, it's outrageous as well because a lot of children could have good homes.
[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I know it was about adopting but it's still on point because that law shows that in fact, it isn't just feminazis that are suspicious of men, in fact, I couldn't give a shit how many feminazis are suspicious of men BUT when lawmakers are this suspicious, then that's a real problem.
[–]jinladen040 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
We don't know the motivation behind the law though. But i'd be willing to bet it wasn't entirely founded by men.
[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No, more than likely it was 'made' by adoption agencies. In fact here in Canada, British Columbia (province) to be precise a few years ago they created a putative father registry, its stated aim was to increase fathers' rights. It sounds like a laudable goal, BUT the way the law is written all it actually did (and I believe it was the 'real' goal) was make adoptions easier by giving men a real limited window to claim paternity, outside that window, you are SOL.
[–]---Crash---[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Just another anecdote.
A couple of weeks ago I started going to a new gym that is part of a tennis club. Already in 3 different occasions one parent (male or female) left the door of the changing rooms/showers open intentionally while they left their little kid inside getting ready for his practice. I totally understand their way of thinking but I rather have a estrange woman see me naked than everyone walking by the main entrance. The father is just an inconsiderate idiot he could seat inside the changing rooms and nobody would say a thing.
[–]RyansPutter 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I wonder if this is a regional thing. I grew up in the Midwest and went to parks all the time as a kid with my dad, friends' dads, and my grandpa. There were always plenty of kids at parks and playgrounds with their dads, too. No one stared or said anything.
I kind of wonder if this is some coastal thing.
[–]mrkeifer86 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm not going to pay her on the back for this. She has a fucked up through process like most of society and should be shamed for it.
[–]StrayPen13 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The entire point of that story is that she reevaluated and realized the problem with that. It took her a moment, but this is the story of her realizing that men can exist around children without an ulterior motive. It's a small step, but it's a step in the right direction.
[+]SweatyAdvance1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Honestly I don't see this as any different then someone getting "cancelled" for that one maybe-potentially-somewhat-racist tweet from 10 years ago. Except she is being pat on the back rather than chastised for her hateful belief system from literally 2 hours ago.
[–]mrkeifer86 -2 points-1 points0 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're racist then you deserved to be cancelled. I don't care if it from ten years ago or today.
My new kink is getting racist fired from their jobs for comments made on social media.