Why is it acceptable for women to say "All men are trash" and we're all just supposed to accept it?

auMatech · 2020-07-16T04:10:10+00:00

You're not supposed to accept it. Accepting it let's them normalise the sentiment.

Many who defend the statement are motte-and-baileying out by saying "its not actually about men", saying instead that it's some jargon about " the patriarchy" etc.

Basically it IS a blanket statement of hatred towards men, they just gaslight to try and shame the people who dare to try and challenge the argument.

NapoleonBonaparte69 · 2020-07-16T04:10:07+00:00

One comment on that post says that "you are not original, funny or cool. Most importantly though, you are not constructive. People like you are the exact reason that controversial hashtags gain so much traction in the first place. So maybe stop being fucking snowflakes and try to have a constructive discussion that actually leads anywhere"

Whenever someone post in this sub or any other sub in favor of mens right, they post it with actual facts, studies and experiences and they have a good logic to back their arguements. That type of post lead to good discussion.

But when someone post on Twitter/Reddit against men, they usually have a bad logic(not always) and most of them post that all men trash with some stupid arguments.Also, they accuse us of being unoriginal and unfunny but actually, their arguements are very bad which does not lead to any constructive discussion.

Idooogamers · 2020-07-16T06:51:38+00:00

This just reflects her parenting because not all men are trash and not all women are bitches, but she is definitely one

Lethn · 2020-07-16T10:57:10+00:00

One thing I've noticed is that women who do this are actually low level psychological manipulators. It's like when they rant about 'privilege' it's designed to shame you into going "I'm so sorry for what I've done" and the way they say it with such conviction is incredibly clever.

Gaslighting I guess is a pretty appropriate word for it because it is meant to make you doubt yourself and that's what they rely on because your doubt is meant to implicate guilt. The last thing the fuckers expect is for you to get aggressive and tell them to fuck off. It's actually sad how many people fall for it but this is what happens when society has a bunch of guilt ridden pushovers who refuse to stand up for themselves.

Of course they deny they're attacking men the actual concept that feminists push is quite clever and is the same as the Catholic church as they offer a way out as others have pointed out who study the movement like I have. Toxic masculinity is the sin of males and if you join the church of Feminism you have a chance at redemption if you submit yourself to their ideology which is why they go 'Oh it's about the patriarchy not you' even though it's blatantly obvious they hate men. That is to say by men they mean a specific type of men that they disapprove of which they define as 'toxic' you're allowed to be a man depending on the feminist as long as you submit yourself to their way of thinking of what a man should be.

This is what the mentality of 'men are trash' really means. When they say men are trash, as far as they're concerned they're talking about men or masculinity they disapprove of. This is why when you get these doe eyed male feminists like Justin Trudeau they act like schoolgirls at a pop concert because that's their ideal man.

In other words this whole bullshit about toxic masculinity and calling men trash is actually just a way for feminists to try and indoctrinate men and fix them into being their ideal man and it seems to be nothing more than a fetish at the end of it all. The sad thing is no amount of appeasement will work as their ideology directly conflicts with the sort of men they biologically crave and this has been heavily documented and laughed at.

TLDR: Feminists really believe they're not 'attacking' men because they're that deluded and fanatical about their ideology and are just shaming a form of masculinity they hate and think that men just need to be fixed.

dazmo · 2020-07-16T03:31:28+00:00

Either it's acceptable because you're a terrible person and you agree with the sentiment, or it's unacceptable.

jsutforthis2 · 2020-07-16T10:35:27+00:00

Absolutely no

NOTcreative- · 2020-07-16T04:41:11+00:00

This is a philosophical question. I’ve put my head down and accepted this statement in many occasions in the work force. I regret those circumstances in which I just accepted this is the way the world is.

QuantSeven · 2020-07-16T13:37:45+00:00

Uh it’s an over generalization and an ad hominem argument. Small potatoes.

Supposed to accept it? Bro. Who has the authority to command you to accept anything? Liberate yourself brother.

SKNK_Monk · 2020-07-16T17:16:58+00:00

Well, that got my dander up.

NAWALT_VADER · 2020-07-16T20:11:26+00:00

It is not acceptable. While they may think we are supposed to accept it, we are not obligated to accept it.

Anyone who states that "All men are trash" needs to be reminded that women are equal to men, and therefore, they are stating that "All women are trash" too.

JumboBumble · 2020-07-16T21:59:02+00:00

You are aware that most women and feminists don’t say that and in fact, will call out people who do say it?

McFeely_Smackup · 2020-07-16T22:18:30+00:00

the funny thing is we're supposed to be so very concerned about "microaggressions" that women suffer, while simultaneously being told to shut up about the outright flagrant abuse heaped onto men every single day.

it's classic gaslighting.

WillieOMacDickerson · 2020-07-17T00:39:04+00:00

They need to be called out on this stuff. I have written on this issue. Here's an excerpt:

‘men rape women’ claims Clementine Ford, not some men, men, plural, as in all of them. In her piece ‘Clementine Ford: Good Riddence to White Ribbon’ (https://10daily.com.au/views/a191003itkdp/clementine-ford-good-riddance-to-white-ribbon-20191004) Ford states, ‘The general public will not tolerate conversations about women’s disadvantage that accurately name the source and instigators of this disadvantage -- men. Instead, we must pepper everything we say with disclaimers and caveats. Of course we know that not all men are like this. In fact, most men are wonderful and amazing and love women and would never, ever, ever do anything that would hurt a woman. In fact, how dare you even suggest that this could be anything other than the absolute truth! It’s such a tiny, tiny, tiny proportion of men who hurt women and in fact they can’t even be said to be men at all! They’re monsters! Evil monsters! Evil monsters who hurt women, but in tiny, almost statistically invisible numbers!’ This passage is clearly meant to be ironic because she then goes on to say that it is men, plural, who ‘rape’ and ‘beat’ women. This is the perfect example of piss poor feminist thinking; the caveats are the truth, the plural is the lie, but the lie has become the ‘truth’ because according to feminist ‘thinking’ all men are guilty. A whole generation of boys are growing up being told that they are ‘toxic’, a malignant cancer on society, and regardless of anything they do or do not do they cannot be cured. The lack of thought to the consequences of this puts this squarely under the heading of ‘revenge feminism’ because equality is simply not part of the equation.

Read the full document here: https://sites.google.com/view/2048-the-mongrels-tale/home

researchMaterial · 2020-07-16T11:32:29+00:00

Il give you the perfect way to shit on this argument, first you say define men and what "trash" means, the other person will say "well men is all males on earth and trash is cheating/misogynistic etc" . Next youl say the word men is inclusive of all men and saying they are all trash means you personally know each and every man on earth has these traits, so do you know and can confirm each and every man on earth is like that? Then the other person will either call you a "pig" or bring up something unrelated. Congrats

Super_Scorplane · 2020-07-16T11:16:15+00:00

Because most men don’t care to be called trash (sadly).

2020-07-16T15:04:14+00:00

cos its really easy to go my whole life not really being victimised apart from randos on twitter - and also cos i know its a fair assessment of me that helps me to do better

Title	Why is it acceptable for women to say "All men are trash" and we're all just supposed to accept it?
Author	satori-in-life
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Date	July 16, 2020 3:01 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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