Netherlands science university accused of bias over drive to hire only female staff

dentastic101 · 2020-06-22T20:18:55+00:00

The university’s rector, Frank Baaijens was on Irish radio today joyfully saying that if the right candidate couldn't be found in the whole EU they will hire women from outside the EU. So men with all the qualifications can just jog on.

__pulsar · 2020-06-22T21:43:49+00:00

This is just the beginning of a new dark age for science.

Redhood616 · 2020-06-22T23:25:38+00:00

51% male & 49% female = problematic

50% male & 50% female = diverse

0% male & 100% female = diverse 😍

rabel111 · 2020-06-22T22:13:40+00:00

One of the most degrading insults to women is to pretend they need men to step aside for women to succeed.

Panderjit_SinghVV · 2020-06-22T20:50:02+00:00

They were doing this in the 80s in Canada. Just after the feminists legalised sex discrimination against men.

I recall an art college in Ontario proudly announcing they wouldn’t hire any men until the year 2000.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2020-06-22T22:43:01+00:00

TU Eindhoven thinks that it's a progressive thing they're doing. And wear it like a badge and show how shiny their self-awarded medal is to the rest of the universities in the world. And on that regard, they're quite proud of themselves and the sheer evil set of events they've set in motion. What they don't understand is that

It's a public university. The money that comes in (other than industry collaboration), and that goes to the salary of the employees, is from the taxpayers. Not just the female taxpayers, but from males too. In effect, this is a misguided gender Robinhood policy where you take from the men and give to the women.
The justification they provide is that the university has a low proportion of female employees (in permanent contracts for research positions; although this might extend to temporary contracts and non-research positions as well). But low proportion of women compared to what? Other technical universities? (if you include/ focus on liberal arts universities like its neighbors Tilburg and Maastricht universities, the ratio would be different).
If the positions that they're targeting are disproportionately male, and that's the rationale behind this recruitment policy, what about the other positions? Administrative positions, secretary positions, HR positions, training positions, whose ratios are quite different. Will there be an audit of these positions and another recruitment policy for those posts? What about the students? Are all bachelors, masters and other programs gonna be filled with exact 50-50 ratio? Not to mention those who don't want to conform to the genders. And what next? Religious parity? Sexuality parity? Language parity?
TU/e is not a standalone entity. It survives on taxpayer euros. The same money that goes to the other TUs, to the other non-tech universities, professional colleges, vocational colleges, high schools, primary schools... It is a colossal zero sum game. TU/e is trying to bandage a hole in the ship where water is flowing in and out. There's no policy in the other institutions to accommodate or compensate for the effects of the gendered hiring policy (not to mention the international candidates who apply for those positions). Previously, TU/e stressed that it's a non-discriminatory institution and that female candidates are encouraged to apply for the vacancies (you could see that in most of the vacancies advertised). It was harmless, and it did its job- to invite the best people. After this policy, delays in hiring on account of blocking at least half the potential candidates and/ or lowering of standards is gonna drastically affect the university.
It's not a private university, that can do whatever it wants. It's a public university, meaning it's public property. It's misusing its reputation and autonomy it has earned over the years, by resorting to such biased practices.
By the recent census or the estimate, the women in the Netherlands outnumber men. So, by implementing this women-only hiring policy, TU/e has actively engaged in anti-minority activities.

My heart fucking bleeds to see this fate of the university of the great Dijkstra.

zgembo1337 · 2020-06-23T00:19:57+00:00

"oh, so you're the quota hire, right?"

Little_Whippie · 2020-06-23T02:29:53+00:00

Equal oppurtunity not equal outcome

Its also crazy seeing articles talking about how women have to "date down" with men

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Eastuss · 2020-06-23T04:25:59+00:00

i have supported this sub for a very long time but why does this sub complain about women wanting mens money and then complaining about women only staff?

do you want women to take men's money or earn it themselves?

also discrimination is something that ALL people do. like I said before, many children don't get adopted becuase people discriminate and want their own genetically linked children with their DNA. that is discrimination.

also 2 year olds that get abandoned by their fathers just because they find out they aren't the father. that is discrimination to not support the child just because its not biologically yours. yes paternity fraud is horrible but I feel like the word 'discrimination' gets thrown around too much

Title	Netherlands science university accused of bias over drive to hire only female staff
Author	dentastic101
Upvotes	187
Comments	30
Date	June 22, 2020 8:16 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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